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Posted 2/11/17 , edited 2/11/17

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All these boycotts are just great for business


Da fuck?


Every single business the alt-right has called for a ban on their sales and stock has sky rocketed


Ban or boycott? Also there's a different between calling for a boycott and actually boycotting something. Also again with this alt-right nonsense.


It's nonsense to call a group by what they themselves ask to be called?

Well we better get you on a plane to england, seeing as you clearly need to tell that to the oxford english dictionary seeing as they are likely not adhering to this.


I think the need for a political boogeyman so to speak is a valid concern. I hate the term alt-right. It makes me feel like a hypocrite to use it. I am a hypocrite.

Honestly, the term is used so loosely that I cannot find a true definition of their ideals and beliefs, as always with a reactionary movement, I suppose.
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LMao it's not the alt right. My beliefs are "liberal" and I think it looks like stupid shit. It's annoying to see these race baiting shows put to production. That's why it's being boycotted.
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LMao it's not the alt right. My beliefs are "liberal" and I think it looks like stupid shit. It's annoying to see these race baiting shows put to production. That's why it's being boycotted.


Again, nothing about it seems "race baiting" besides the title. It's not race bating to address actual issues with race relations. I could be wrong and the show could end up being that way but seeing as the movie came out with no controversy that I could tell of I'd say that is a very small possibility.
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TheAngryLittleAlchemist wrote:

LMao it's not the alt right. My beliefs are "liberal" and I think it looks like stupid shit. It's annoying to see these race baiting shows put to production. That's why it's being boycotted.


Again, nothing about it seems "race baiting" besides the title. It's not race bating to address actual issues with race relations. I could be wrong and the show could end up being that way but seeing as the movie came out with no controversy that I could tell of I'd say that is a very small possibility.


So you're saying that a product shouldn't be judged for the title and the advertisement?

And what does black face have to do with "race relations" lol
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Ban or boycott? Also there's a different between calling for a boycott and actually boycotting something. Also again with this alt-right nonsense.


It's nonsense to call a group by what they themselves ask to be called?

Well we better get you on a plane to england, seeing as you clearly need to tell that to the oxford english dictionary seeing as they are likely not adhering to this.


What is your actual problem mate. When the fuck did I say it was nonsense to call a group by what said group call themselves? I simply said, "Also again with this alt-right nonsense", if you had been paying attention to the conversation instead of butting in you would of come to comprehend that I was curious about why everyone was saying Alt-right this or regressive left that. Regardless, this is a mute matter.

I'm not even sure what you're getting at with your second sentence. A boycott isn't a bloody ban. A commercial boycott happens when a group of people decide to stop buying or supporting a product, correct or am I wrong?

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Posted 2/11/17 , edited 2/13/17

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octorockandroll wrote:


TheAngryLittleAlchemist wrote:

LMao it's not the alt right. My beliefs are "liberal" and I think it looks like stupid shit. It's annoying to see these race baiting shows put to production. That's why it's being boycotted.


Again, nothing about it seems "race baiting" besides the title. It's not race bating to address actual issues with race relations. I could be wrong and the show could end up being that way but seeing as the movie came out with no controversy that I could tell of I'd say that is a very small possibility.


So you're saying that a product shouldn't be judged for the title and the advertisement?

And what does black face have to do with "race relations" lol


Do... Do you know what blackface is?

It's kind of a phenomenally racist thing with a horrible history behind it. It has everything to do with race relations, in american history anyways.
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Posted 2/11/17 , edited 2/11/17

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octorockandroll wrote:


TheAngryLittleAlchemist wrote:

LMao it's not the alt right. My beliefs are "liberal" and I think it looks like stupid shit. It's annoying to see these race baiting shows put to production. That's why it's being boycotted.


Again, nothing about it seems "race baiting" besides the title. It's not race bating to address actual issues with race relations. I could be wrong and the show could end up being that way but seeing as the movie came out with no controversy that I could tell of I'd say that is a very small possibility.


So you're saying that a product shouldn't be judged for the title and the advertisement?

And what does black face have to do with "race relations" lol


You are correctish. My reasoning is that people are too easily triggered by a title, which can or cannot be satirical of facetious; it is natural, but I do wish people would exercise their ability to do more research. Though yes, the ad is intentionally bait.

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If you're going to do the Trump Butthurt-Boycott of anyone who even remotely says bad things about you, at what point does a "mass protest" of not doing anything literally become just plugging your ears and going "La la la"?

The more that the Alt-Right tries to portray themselves as Righteously Wounded, the more that a certain other political faction is likely to lose the top prize for "Crying like babies"...
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Do... Do you know what blackface is?

It's kind of a phenomenally racist thing with a horrible history behind it. It has everything to do with race relations, in american history anyways.


Shut up lol. Who doesn't know what blackface is? I just think it's unnecessary to race relations nowadays. But whatever.

If this trailer was getting a positive reception everyone would move on. But now that it's getting a negative reception people are saying "Wait to see the actual show" or "don't hate on it just yet" or "you don't understand the point" etc. The thing is, these trailers are made to be judged. That is literally the express purpose of them, studios make them so that they hope they can win your favor. But now that people don't like it it's not okay to judge it yet?

I'm not saying the show is bad. the trailer, was horrendous though.
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You are correctish. My reasoning is that people are too easily triggered by a title, which can or cannot be satirical of facetious; it is natural, but I do wish people would exercise their ability to do more research. Though yes, the ad is intentionally bait.



Actually I agree with you PV. Looked more satirical that was in bad taste, rather than actually pointing the finger at white people. I just didn't want to right an essay on misunderstandings, because at the end of the day, the trailer was still somewhat bait.
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octorockandroll

Do... Do you know what blackface is?

It's kind of a phenomenally racist thing with a horrible history behind it. It has everything to do with race relations, in american history anyways.


Shut up lol. Who doesn't know what blackface is? I just think it's unnecessary to race relations nowadays. But whatever.

If this trailer was getting a positive reception everyone would move on. But now that it's getting a negative reception people are saying "Wait to see the actual show" or "don't hate on it just yet" or "you don't understand the point" etc. The thing is, these trailers are made to be judged. That is literally the express purpose of them, studios make them so that they hope they can win your favor. But now that people don't like it it's not okay to judge it yet?

I'm not saying the show is bad. the trailer, was horrendous though.

Well, in the context of the film, it was a blackface party for white students, and you know, shit happens. I am not sure if blackface is a problem today per se, in terms of discrimination and intent, but if it is a problem, then I believe people should condemn it as such, that is part of building of race relations, and in such, I would say it is necessary.
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Posted 2/11/17 , edited 2/13/17

TheAngryLittleAlchemist wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:


TheAngryLittleAlchemist wrote:

LMao it's not the alt right. My beliefs are "liberal" and I think it looks like stupid shit. It's annoying to see these race baiting shows put to production. That's why it's being boycotted.


Again, nothing about it seems "race baiting" besides the title. It's not race bating to address actual issues with race relations. I could be wrong and the show could end up being that way but seeing as the movie came out with no controversy that I could tell of I'd say that is a very small possibility.


So you're saying that a product shouldn't be judged for the title and the advertisement?

And what does black face have to do with "race relations" lol


For one thing it's highly offensive to black people, They view it as mocking their race
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For one thing it's highly offensive to black people, They view it as mocking their race


And that's important to today because..................????????????

I'm sure that octo and you are ready at the helm to search google articles about a student using blackface or callilng someone the N word on campus but let's be real here, Black face in general is largely irrelevant as a way of demeaning black people nowadays. It's historically important but ... I just don't think it's necessary. It just shows white people as these terrible scum. I'd probably appreciate the context more if i watched the film, BUT, Netflix knows that many people haven't seen the film and that people are going to watch the trailer on it's own volition so.
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

I suppose you are right about my undue comparison, I might have been trying to score points by being unbiased, though my second comparison was mainly choosing which examples to complain when referring to the regressive right movement.

I was equating this boycott (Dear White People) to another boycott (Ghostbusters 2016) done by supposedly the same movement. I'd argue this is not the worst thing the regressive right has done.

While this movie clearly has an inflammatory title and is racially political in a satirical nature, the hate on Ghostbusters 2016 was mostly nonsensical, on the belief that casting women were a political statement by Hollywood.

This seems more like a publicity stunt to piss everyone off rather than alt right or left. Hell, even I was pissed off on the first page.


The Ghostbusters boycott was also pretty dumb, though for slightly different reasons. For Ghostbusters it was the stupid misogyny that got mixed in overall ambivalence of how a sequel to yet another beloved 80s franchise that already had an older sequel that fell kind of flat. For Dear White People, it seems to be a bunch of freaking out because Netflix dared to frontline a leading character who's intended to be challenging and not necessarily likable, along with lingering butthurt over the MTV fiasco sharing a similar tagline.

Pairing her with students who white students who appear tone deaf to the history of blackface may feel unflattering to white people, but it's not an old thing. Just googling "blackface student controversy" has several results from 2016 like this http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/texas-students-expelled-posing-blackface-snapchat-video-article-1.2873348 .

Kind of like Ghostbusters, the trailer itself doesn't peak my interest all that much. Although I am kind of curious where they will go with the title character, the trailer looks like an in-your-face over-the-top marathon of stereotypes where everyone is made the fool. Maybe it'll be more nuanced than that, maybe not. Doesn't seem worth the controversy getting kicked up over it.
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