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Posted 2/16/17 , edited 2/17/17
Crunchyroll is trying to cover every base, to make sure the works they receive do not violate other companies copyright. they went a bit overboard with not allowing to even mention anime / anime movies though. some anime companies are very aggressive in enforcing copyright though, particularly on youtube . maybe Crunchyroll just wants to play safe so it doesn't get sued over what's supposed to be a friendly competition.
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well, entering a miku drawing for the chance of getting rewarded money would violate the non-commercial license, since that would be considered "private monetary compensation" ( https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/us/legalcode )

edit: the non-commercial license in the context of artwork is only intended to let you make fan arts of miku, etc on image sharing sites without worrying about legal repercursions. it's an entirely different story to use it on a competition with the possibility of being awarded monetary compensation, such as in this competition.



More incorrect statements.

Again, you are misinterpreting and overexaggerating something that isn't there. CFM, Sega, others solict Miku art/video for contest submissions all the time without legally issuing any new additional licenses. NICONICO has Miku Miku Dance contests submitting videos, to which recieve prize awards, and are permitted by CFM. Others likewise host contests that are held as well.

Also, you forgot to read the 2nd link I listed. Not only is there a generic CC license, but CFM also issues an additional license that is more broad in scope they call "Piapro Character License".


Bottom line is, stop being a noob and think u know WTF ur talking about; because u don't, and ur "freaking" out other people here, it is so...
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Posted 2/16/17 , edited 2/17/17

fizzytastic wrote:

So, Miku art is definitely not allowed then?? >n> That kinda sucks since I drew Miku alongside Hime in the other contest. I guess I don't mind too much though, since I didn't think I'd win anyways (it was good practice at least).


Don't worry about it. Ur fine, don't let noobs who play lawyer troll u from doing what u want to do, it is so...
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Posted 2/16/17 , edited 2/17/17

TheGrandAlliance wrote:


namealreadytaken wrote:


well, entering a miku drawing for the chance of getting rewarded money would violate the non-commercial license, since that would be considered "private monetary compensation" ( https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/us/legalcode )

edit: the non-commercial license in the context of artwork is only intended to let you make fan arts of miku, etc on image sharing sites without worrying about legal repercursions. it's an entirely different story to use it on a competition with the possibility of being awarded monetary compensation, such as in this competition.



More incorrect statements.

Again, you are misinterpreting and overexaggerating something that isn't there. CFM, Sega, others solict Miku art/video for contest submissions all the time without legally issuing any new additional licenses. NICONICO has Miku Miku Dance contests submitting videos, to which recieve prize awards, and are permitted by CFM. Others likewise host contests that are held as well.

Also, you forgot to read the 2nd link I listed. Not only is there a generic CC license, but CFM also issues an additional license that is more broad in scope they call "Piapro Character License".


Bottom line is, stop being a noob and think u know WTF ur talking about; because u don't, and ur "freaking" out other people here, it is so...


"something that isn't there."


3. License Grant. Subject to the terms and conditions of this License, Licensor hereby grants You a worldwide, royalty-free, non-exclusive, perpetual (for the duration of the applicable copyright) license to exercise the rights in the Work as stated below:
...
to create and reproduce Derivative Works provided that any such Derivative Work, ... takes reasonable steps to clearly label, demarcate or otherwise identify that changes were made to the original Work.
4. Restrictions. The license granted in Section 3 above is expressly made subject to and limited by the following restrictions:
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You may not exercise any of the rights granted to You in Section 3 above in any manner that is primarily intended for or directed toward commercial advantage or private monetary compensation.



5. PRIZES:
(d.) $1000 USD spending money;

unless i'm somehow misreading the text, getting a prize money does seem to violate the non-commercial license CC 3.0. this of course, only applies to CC 3.0.

" CFM, Sega, others solict Miku art/video for contest submissions all the time "
CFM owns the copyright for Miku, and others such as Sega likely obtained the necessary permissions to host any such events. they have close business ties afterall. Crunchyroll is a different story. Crunchyroll have no close business ties with CFM, so this is a logical fallacy.

"bruh you didn't check the links"

D.当社が許諾していない利用について
D: regarding the use (of miku, etc) which has not been authorized by the company

個別に契約を締結することで可能となる利用(原則NG)
particular cases that's allowed under an agreement with the company (not allowed in general cases)

利用を開始する前にこちらのフォームからお問い合わせ下さい。
please contact us before you use (miku, etc)

(1) 法人による、営利、非営利の別を問わないあらゆる利用。
various commercial use without contacting the company

i'm not too sure you actually read the Terms, but it does say you need to contact them first in case of commercial use, and receiving monetary compensation does fall under "commercial use".

i have to say though, i'm disappointed in your reply. i'd really like to see the exact portion which they explicitly say that:
1. it's allowed to use miku, etc on competitions hosted by 3rd parties
2. it's allowed to receive monetary compensation, which counts as commercial use
3. it's allowed to do so without contacting them in any way.

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Posted 2/16/17 , edited 2/17/17

namealreadytaken wrote:
i have to say though, i'm disappointed in your reply. i'd really like to see the exact portion which they explicitly say that:
1. it's allowed to use miku, etc on competitions hosted by 3rd parties
2. it's allowed to receive monetary compensation, which counts as commercial use
3. it's allowed to do so without contacting them in any way.



The better q is, where does it say u cannot? The link clearly states "examples of prohibited conduct", and a contest is no where in the scope as to such. Furthermore, a contest isn't "commercial use", IDK where ur perversion of US law is comming from. Else, u would have to file business license with ur state to engage to submit artwork to CR.

Furthermore, a contest is not an employment contract. You are not recieving direct compensation for an activity. Furthemore, the art is being used in respect of "Fair Use" laws, which you so happen to fail to mention.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

Finally, ur dodging NICONICO MMD again. It, and such like others, do not require peoples to "acquire license" before participation.

In the end, ur making a false deal out of nothing... you have presented no evidence thus far that demonstrates it to be not the case; to simply conjecture as to meaning of "commercial conduct", the "preponderance of evidence" lies to my advantage. A contest is not an employment contract, nor is fan art submission considered as such. Unless ur a CFM lawyer, u need to stop spreading innuendo, it is so..
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Posted 2/16/17 , edited 2/17/17

TheGrandAlliance wrote:
a contest is not an employment contract. You are not recieving direct compensation for an activity.


as soon as you receive prize money, that automatically makes it a monetary compensation, which means commercial use.
you still have yet to provide proof that the company lets people use their characters, get paid, and not have to contact them in any way.

edit: also note that fair use, which is non-commercial in nature, is a US law, which may (and likely is) very different from the laws in Japan.

edit 2: we disagree on whether this would fall under commercial use or not. given that money is being given to the artist, it does seem commercial in nature. and people are competing to receive monetary compensation, so there's also the intent to receive compensation from your work, that is, be paid. of course, to truly understand which is the case, only CFM themselves would be able to answer

edit3: or Crunchyroll, if they bother to first clarify with CFM (which i don't think they will)
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namealreadytaken wrote:

as soon as you receive prize money, that automatically makes it a monetary compensation, which means commercial use.
you still have yet to provide proof that the company lets people use their characters, get paid, and not have to contact them in any way.


U seem to be very fed up on "commercial use" thing. What law/legal predict are you citing that specifically argues fan art (which is specifically defined as non-professional activity; in this case with CC/Special use licenese) submission for a prize-issuing contest constitutes commercial use?


EDIT: BTW, the official license is available here:

http://piapro.jp/license/pcl


Note how it acknowledges all copyright laws pertain as well, which would include fair use considerations.
Posted 2/16/17 , edited 2/17/17

namealreadytaken wrote:

though i understand the need to post the whole Terms and what-not, hardly anyone will bother to read the whole thing.
also, bold the following:
Each Entrant must be a Premium Plus member of the online community Crunchyroll.com. ... Any individuals who purchase a Crunchyroll Premium Plus membership after the Start Date will not be eligible for play.

tl;dr you must have a premium+ membership before CR starts accepting submissions. late premium+ users will NOT be eligible.
also, regular premium users will NOT be eligible as well.

edit: wait, why is this posted in site support / minor question and not in general..?

edit2:
Requests for the names of the winners must be received no later December 31, 2015.
what

edit3: Premium+ users from the United States are NOT eligible.



Dude, are you kidding me? You have to be PAYING THEM MONEY to even enter this?
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Champagne-Supernova wrote:

Dude, are you kidding me? You have to be PAYING THEM MONEY to even enter this?


Indeed, I almost forgot. namealreadytaken

This contest requires payment for entry: It is not "free". Therefore, being paid money back may simply be considered as resettlement; compensating for cost of entry, thus non-commercial in nature. Or, as I said above, gambling. The "value" of Miku used in a video, is not the total sum of a artwork value. The OP was talking about a video that included various characters, including Miku, that simply added to its production.

If you were to delete Miku from the submission; what the "value" of the piece would remain, that is. The audio track, cinematography, the like. So even by ur logic, still questionable.
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Posted 2/16/17 , edited 2/17/17

Champagne-Supernova wrote:Dude, are you kidding me? You have to be PAYING THEM MONEY to even enter this?


on a "positive" note, this was first open to premium plus members only (so even regular premium users were excluded at first)
but they have since changed and now both premium and premium plus are eligible. the free user is not though.
it might be possible to participate with a trial account, but we have yet to receive clarification on this.
(they also forgot to include US premium users at some point)

edit: technically, it's "free" to enter as long as you're a premium or premium plus member. it sounds strange, but it's one of the perks exclusive to premium and premium plus members. you don't have to pay a "fee" to partake, as long as you're premium or premium plus.
yes, i know. >_>
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So just a quick question but does anyone understand what they mean when they say 'animated symbols or emojis aren't allowed'? Does that mean part of my little picture/video cannot be moving or does it just mean symbols and emojis you can find online specifically?

Also if we make a small video do we still have to put it in JPEG format? Cause wouldn't that wreck the fact that it's a video?

Thoughts on my questions would be greatly appreciated!
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InvertedApollo wrote:Also if we make a small video do we still have to put it in JPEG format? Cause wouldn't that wreck the fact that it's a video?


i think CR meant to say, "if you're going to send us an image, send us as a jpeg format"
i'm not too sure how they're going to handle video submissions. maybe the option of submitting video was added as a mistake?
(there's been plenty of mistakes in the rules already, so that's not all that unlikely)
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So its not random selection? There is an actual judge panel?
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Posted 2/17/17 , edited 2/17/17

siamon wrote:

Is there any chance of adding Slovenia to the "valid" list ?

I am quite sure there isn't any regulation preventing this - since i competed in plenty similar "random/luck draw" events with similar reward.

I could be wrong though :(





Reylle wrote:

Hey, I just want to check if Brazil residents really cannot participate or you guys just forgot to put it on the list, since there was some mistakes with the previous versions of the text. Thanks.




any response on this?
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Posted 2/17/17 , edited 2/17/17

siamon wrote:

any responose on this?


The list of eligible countries is final.
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