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Dude just stop you are starting to see ISIS behind every tree. I bet you check under your bed every night to make sure ISIS isn't there to behead you in your sleep
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I must admit I had not considered the difficulties people in your position would face concerning this topic.

Hmm, I'm not sure how to raise a big issue like that with Trudeau's office but I've met my MP a few times as well as a couple others so I can probably try speaking to them directly.

Checked Change.org though and I was shocked to find there was nothing on the subject despite the site's insistence I look at a petition to change the date of B.C's family day with twenty thousand supporters -_-

I'm disappointed.


Yeah every single soldier, sailor, and airman of the Canadian Armed Forces didn't sign up to stand idly by. But at the end of the day we answer to the Minster of Defence and through him the government of Canada. So we can't go all gung ho at the Prime Minster, regardless of how badly we may want to . It's one of the many things written into our service contracts ya know.

The disappointment is real ya know, a meaningless holiday holding more importance then people dying. But that's the First World for you, they don't care about anything but themselves . Seems empathy is a forgotten virtue with most these days. We in a position to help , with trained and experienced personal use to operating in foreign theatres under intense pressure but nope the date of Family Day means more.


The sad thing is that the media didn't report any of this until it was already too late. This is something that should have been front and center from the beginning. No news at all of these people even existing, and being brutally persecuted the way they were - before the genocide even started. Where was the media all of that time? What have they been doing, and where have they been, when this was going on? Why did they wait until genocide, before reporting the inhumanity that was going on before then?

And why did the U.N. not even look into this? They spend a ton of energy and effort to punish Israel for it's unfair treatment of the Palestinians, but not so much as a peep for Myanmar's ruthless genocide of their version of Palestinians. Israel isn't committing genocide, but they get slapped hard by the U.N. Myanmar has been treating Rohingyas brutally, and nothing from the U.N.

The hypocrisy is thick at the U.N.
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The sad thing is that the media didn't report any of this until it was already too late. This is something that should have been front and center from the beginning. No news at all of these people even existing, and being brutally persecuted the way they were - before the genocide even started. Where was the media all of that time? What have they been doing, and where have they been, when this was going on? Why did they wait until genocide, before reporting the inhumanity that was going on before then?

And why did the U.N. not even look into this? They spend a ton of energy and effort to punish Israel for it's unfair treatment of the Palestinians, but not so much as a peep for Myanmar's ruthless genocide of their version of Palestinians. Israel isn't committing genocide, but they get slapped hard by the U.N. Myanmar has been treating Rohingyas brutally, and nothing from the U.N.

The hypocrisy is thick at the U.N.


I am not entirely sure you of all people have any right to criticise the U.N of all organisations. I mean you're advocating hardcore for isolationist policies and basically saying the US has no obligations outside it's own borders , that the plight of other nations and people mean nothing before American internal concerns.

I am not necessarily disagreeing with you here in this particular post I just find it ironically laughable that you condemn the U.N for inaction while at the same time preaching the US should withdraw from all things international. I mean make up your mind mate and decide which side of the fence you want to sit on.
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Dude just stop you are starting to see ISIS behind every tree. I bet you check under your bed every night to make sure ISIS isn't there to behead you in your sleep


You refuse to admit that I acknowledged that ISIS was probably not involved in this. And continue characterize my comments as though I blamed ISIS for this....

You are being intellectually dishonest. There is no use having an honest dialog with you, because you refuse to have one.
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The sad thing is that the media didn't report any of this until it was already too late. This is something that should have been front and center from the beginning. No news at all of these people even existing, and being brutally persecuted the way they were - before the genocide even started. Where was the media all of that time? What have they been doing, and where have they been, when this was going on? Why did they wait until genocide, before reporting the inhumanity that was going on before then?

And why did the U.N. not even look into this? They spend a ton of energy and effort to punish Israel for it's unfair treatment of the Palestinians, but not so much as a peep for Myanmar's ruthless genocide of their version of Palestinians. Israel isn't committing genocide, but they get slapped hard by the U.N. Myanmar has been treating Rohingyas brutally, and nothing from the U.N.

The hypocrisy is thick at the U.N.
Totally agree with this.

Even during the Rwandan genocide, when all the damage was done, lives were gone, people without limbs and most of the women with HIV from militant formed rape squads, THEN the french troops came in to take down the regime. The fucking time. Yes please, come in when most of them are gone.
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What the Myanmar military / government have been doing is terrible, however, in light of what ISIS has been doing in the Middle East and in Europe, and their vow to do the same within the U.S. (actually they have, through radicalized Americans that did their crimes in the name of ISIS), I'm thinking this was what motivated the military to do these terrible things.

You automatically linked it to ISIS which has absolutely nothing to do with this NOTHING are you afraid of them that much that every little thing has to be linked to them?

I was wrong you are not a racist you are however maybe just a tad bit paranoid


ISIS isn't just sending terrorists to other countries. They also send preachers who radicalize otherwise peaceful Muslims. ISIS has been doing a lot to export terrorism globally. Those are facts. So, when I said that in light of those facts, it could be that the Myanmar government / military had gone to extermination mode, I was pointing out that it was a possible motive for their inhuman behavior.

With the way those people have been persecuted, it would be easy to radicalize them. However, I also acknowledged that ISIS probably wasn't involved with this. Take a look at the last paragraph. Maybe you didn't see what I wrote there.


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uncletim wrote:

It's been building for a long time
http://studies.aljazeera.net/en/reports/2016/09/muslim-minorities-peril-rise-buddhist-violence-asia-160908090547506.html

Today it's the Muslims tomorrow the Hindus I guess when they finely get around to the Christensen that is when the west might act


I've never heard of radical Hindu-ism. I've never heard of Hindu terrorists beheading people or anything like that.



WHY ARE THEY BEING PERSECUTED

The Rohingya have always faced persecution and discrimination.

However that intensified in October last year following attacks by Rohingya militants which resulted in the Burmese military launching a series of so called “clearance operations” in northern Rakhine State.


What the Myanmar military / government have been doing is terrible, however, in light of what ISIS has been doing in the Middle East and in Europe, and their vow to do the same within the U.S. (actually they have, through radicalized Americans that did their crimes in the name of ISIS), I'm thinking this was what motivated the military to do these terrible things.

These Muslims made a bad situation for themselves much worse when they started killing Myanmar soldiers. I believe the the Myanmar government / military had a right to respond to the attacks, but not like this. This is inhuman. Even though I understand their fear of radical Islamic activity in their country, this action of theirs has put them on the wrong side of humanity.

Now that Myanmar is on the wrong side of humanity, their poor country is gonna be poorer, because of the coming U.N. sanctions. A bad situation will become worse for all of their people. And even though ISIS (probably) had noting to do with this one, it's another win for them.


Also, you refuse to apologize to me for calling me a racist, when you finally admit that I am not, but you call me other names.... When will you stop falsely accusing me of stuff? When will you stop with the name calling and bullying?


I wouldn't try to make such baseless hypotheses Oats. Perhaps they are radicalized by relations to ISIS, or maybe they are tired of being stateless and treated like shit. I honestly think research is due here on your part. I do think it is important we do not romanticize the Rohingyas, though I find it hard to condemn any current violence due to their treatment.

Note: Show more tact. Do research. Guesses when made out of ignorance can hurt, and do not qualify as hypotheses. Especially considering how defenseless the Rohingyas are for them to be in concentration camps in the first place.


But that's why I said that ISIS probably had nothing to do with it! I pointed out how badly the people were treated, and that it was probably what drove them to that act of violence. These people don't have anyone sending them weapons, or giving them training. That's why I can say that ISIS probably isn't involved.

However, it's not beyond possible for ISIS to take advantage of that situation. This is probably why the government / military did what they did. It was PROBABLY a motivating factor. Probably, not definitely. (I'm not excusing them. Please don't say that I said that their actions were justified. They are not!)

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The sad thing is that the media didn't report any of this until it was already too late. This is something that should have been front and center from the beginning. No news at all of these people even existing, and being brutally persecuted the way they were - before the genocide even started. Where was the media all of that time? What have they been doing, and where have they been, when this was going on? Why did they wait until genocide, before reporting the inhumanity that was going on before then?

And why did the U.N. not even look into this? They spend a ton of energy and effort to punish Israel for it's unfair treatment of the Palestinians, but not so much as a peep for Myanmar's ruthless genocide of their version of Palestinians. Israel isn't committing genocide, but they get slapped hard by the U.N. Myanmar has been treating Rohingyas brutally, and nothing from the U.N.

The hypocrisy is thick at the U.N.


I am not entirely sure you of all people have any right to criticise the U.N of all organisations. I mean you're advocating hardcore for isolationist policies and basically saying the US has no obligations outside it's own borders , that the plight of other nations and people mean nothing before American internal concerns.

I am not necessarily disagreeing with you here in this particular post I just find it ironically laughable that you condemn the U.N for inaction while at the same time preaching the US should withdraw from all things international. I mean make up your mind mate and decide which side of the fence you want to sit on.
That's irony for sure, especially since I'm most likely not wrong when I say that U,S. has the most representation in UN (probably not anymore though)
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The sad thing is that the media didn't report any of this until it was already too late. This is something that should have been front and center from the beginning. No news at all of these people even existing, and being brutally persecuted the way they were - before the genocide even started. Where was the media all of that time? What have they been doing, and where have they been, when this was going on? Why did they wait until genocide, before reporting the inhumanity that was going on before then?

And why did the U.N. not even look into this? They spend a ton of energy and effort to punish Israel for it's unfair treatment of the Palestinians, but not so much as a peep for Myanmar's ruthless genocide of their version of Palestinians. Israel isn't committing genocide, but they get slapped hard by the U.N. Myanmar has been treating Rohingyas brutally, and nothing from the U.N.

The hypocrisy is thick at the U.N.


I am not entirely sure you of all people have any right to criticise the U.N of all organisations. I mean you're advocating hardcore for isolationist policies and basically saying the US has no obligations outside it's own borders , that the plight of other nations and people mean nothing before American internal concerns.

I am not necessarily disagreeing with you here in this particular post I just find it ironically laughable that you condemn the U.N for inaction while at the same time preaching the US should withdraw from all things international. I mean make up your mind mate and decide which side of the fence you want to sit on.


*gasp!* You are right! I have to get used to us minding our own business, and not getting involved in other countries' problems.

I've been so used to seeing our troops getting sent all over the planet, and barely any other countries contributing. The usual, American, Canadian, Australian, British, and French forces ran around to hot spots all over the planet. No one else, helps.... And the U.N. never covered the costs. None of the countries around the world payed any money to cover the costs. So, what happens? Our countries get saddled with ever increasing debt, and war dead - I mean our Peace Keeping dead.

It's gonna be strange not seeing our country send troops to far off shores and getting into bush wars all over the planet. Well, no one is ever gonna accuse the U.S. of being colonialists, ever again... I think.
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*gasp!* You are right! I have to get used to us minding our own business, and not getting involved in other countries' problems.

I've been so used to seeing our troops getting sent all over the planet, and barely any other countries contributing. The usual, American, Canadian, Australian, British, and French forces ran around to hot spots all over the planet. No one else, helps.... And the U.N. never covered the costs. None of the countries around the world payed any money to cover the costs. So, what happens? Our countries get saddled with ever increasing debt, and war dead - I mean our Peace Keeping dead.

It's gonna be strange not seeing our country send troops to far off shores and getting into bush wars all over the planet. Well, no one is ever gonna accuse the U.S. of being colonialists, ever again... I think.


Do you know what American, Canadian, Australian, British, and French Forces have in common? They're all well trained, well equipped, and have more then their fair share of experienced troops. Other nations can not simply keep up with them and so can only contribute little by comparison. Their respective nations are also wealthy beyond all decency and have a public that more less supports them wholeheartedly.

As for getting paid what are we DeadlyOats, mercenaries? You don't help people for the money and frankly expecting some third or second world nation to pony up the entirety of our costs when their citizens are dying is a ludicrous idea on your part. Our respective countries are drowning in wealth by comparison. And frankly if you took every other member nation of the UN aside from Russia and China their GDP is nowhere near as great as America, Canada, Australia, Britain, and France. Could the European Union and the Asian Nations be contributing more? Sure they could if push really came to shove but at the same time it's not really needed. I hold no more love for the UN then the next person but there is still a need for an international organisation that can act beyond the borders of any one particular nation.

As for those that fell, well I can only speak for the CAF. But no member of the CAF has ever regretted the losses we've suffered. A Canadian soldier, or sailor, or airman knows exactly what they signed up for. We don't lie to our troops and they willingly put their lives on the lines for the betterment of the world. I suggest you try to remember what duty to your fellow human beings mean mate before you think to lessen their sacrifice with your pettiness.
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The USA made indeed make up a tiny fraction of the world's population but last time I checked a vast majority of the world's wealth is in American hands. On the whole the the USA has far more liquid capital to throw around then it's next three competitors put together. This is even despite the staggering debt it is suffering under. At the same time I willingly admit the UN is well lacklustre to say the least, we are at least in agreement there.

And the Americans help in Libya and Iraq didn't make things worse, their unwillingness to stay the course for the long run is what made things worse. Situations such as those in Libya and Iraq don't resolve themselves overnight. And let's be honest of all the nations that make up the membership of the UN America is the one most capable of fielding large amount of not only troops and other forces but the logistical support necessary to keep them in the field for long. And from what I've seen of them in Afghanistan I will admit a UN ISAF force without American backing is going to be lacking major firepower.

As for consent that didn't stop the UN from deploying a ISAF in Afghanistan, we were a party to a conflict and yet we didn't mind the switch from peacekeeping to active conflict. The same sort of mentality is needed in this Myanmar/Burma situation as well. I'll be the first to admit this probably won't end pretty but when is doing what is necessary ever has?

I mean not so long ago we deployed millions of troops, planes, tanks, ships, and uncounted supplies to a conflict that was decidedly European in nature . I don't know about you about but this whole Myanmar/Burma situation sits ill with me. It's a real problem needing real action yet we're going to sit here arguing over who should take point and meaningless rhetoric.

I guess I shouldn't say so much being a citizen of a country that has at best been reluctant to commit troops to even legal UN actions let alone the likely somewhat non kosher actions that will be needed to solve this. But as a soldier I hate sitting idly by while people are dying, it's not how the CAF handled Afghanistan.


Libya has tribal conflict nonsense and Iraq has its sectarian divisions. Libya has devolved into anarchy and Iraq is getting sucked into Iran's sphere of influence. Iraq was going to fall apart the day after we left whether it was in 50 years or 5 minutes. As long as the Sunnis and Shi'ites keep killing each other mindlessly that isn't going to change. The nation was only somewhat "stable" under a ruthless dictator, so unless we want to prop up a puppet government for the next 50 years, I don't think any sort of easy "fix" exist. Libya is almost the same, only somewhat "stable" under a different ruthless dictator, now the country is aligning under its tribal allegiances, once again another lose-lose situation, throw radical Islam into the mix and its a complete mess. It's one thing to take out extremists that are universally despised in a country (think France's invasion in Africa (forgetting the country's name, Mali?)) to drive back Boko Harem the government was on board so things were more straight forward. In Libya you have multiple governments, and in Iraq a government that is disliked by much of its Sunni minority, completely different.

Afghanistan was different, as horrible and blunt as this might sound extremists in Afghanistan posed a direct threat to the west, the conflict in Myanmar/Burma does not share this trait.

As with Europe, once again a different situation. We would have been geopolitical isolated, our only real allies (and from an economic perspective trade partners) were being obliterated and it wouldn't fare well for our economies long term. More importantly, the cultural and political connections between our countries were quite strong compared to Myanmar/Burma which was basically a hermit kingdom up until the last few years when it finally started making reforms (taking away power from the military junta).

I also feel troubled by the conflict as well, but on the other end of things anytime you militarily intervene in a country you are putting your fellow countrymen's lives on the line, and if it is something that doesn't affect your country directly its hard to build national and larger international support. Although, it would probably be easier to do so with a multinational force.

Whatever solution that is decided, its important to have a plan for the day after or the already bad situation will get even worse.
While I understand your belief in arguing who should take action seems pointless, in the bigger scope of things there will be more Myanmars, more Darfurs, more genocide overall unless the world comes together and has a real force or system in place (without so much red tape) to stop such heinous acts.
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*gasp!* You are right! I have to get used to us minding our own business, and not getting involved in other countries' problems.

I've been so used to seeing our troops getting sent all over the planet, and barely any other countries contributing. The usual, American, Canadian, Australian, British, and French forces ran around to hot spots all over the planet. No one else, helps.... And the U.N. never covered the costs. None of the countries around the world payed any money to cover the costs. So, what happens? Our countries get saddled with ever increasing debt, and war dead - I mean our Peace Keeping dead.

It's gonna be strange not seeing our country send troops to far off shores and getting into bush wars all over the planet. Well, no one is ever gonna accuse the U.S. of being colonialists, ever again... I think.


Do you know what American, Canadian, Australian, British, and French Forces have in common? They're all well trained, well equipped, and have more then their fair share of experienced troops. Other nations can not simply keep up with them and so can only contribute little by comparison. Their respective nations are also wealthy beyond all decency and have a public that more less supports them wholeheartedly.

As for getting paid what are we DeadlyOats, mercenaries? You don't help people for the money and frankly expecting some third or second world nation to pony up the entirety of our costs when their citizens are dying is a ludicrous idea on your part. Our respective countries are drowning in wealth by comparison. And frankly if you took every other member nation of the UN aside from Russia and China their GDP is nowhere near as great as America, Canada, Australia, Britain, and France. Could the European Union and the Asian Nations be contributing more? Sure they could if push really came to shove but at the same time it's not really needed. I hold no more love for the UN then the next person but there is still a need for an international organisation that can act beyond the borders of any one particular nation.

As for those that fell, well I can only speak for the CAF. But no member of the CAF has ever regretted the losses we've suffered. A Canadian soldier, or sailor, or airman knows exactly what they signed up for. We don't lie to our troops and they willingly put their lives on the lines for the betterment of the world. I suggest you try to remember what duty to your fellow human beings mean mate before you think to lessen their sacrifice with your pettiness.


But that is globalism. That is what we want to leave. It is their fault that they use their militaries to suppress their own people. It is their fault if their militaries can't compete with another military force. It is their fault if their military can't protect their own. I, and many Americans are tired if protecting the world. Why? Because the world doesn't want to protect itself. The world seems to depend on America, and seems to depend on America to pay for it all.

America seems strong, but that's the government doing things at the expense of the people of America. There are super wealthy Americans who are leftists who don't have a second thought of spending the money (in taxes), or the lives (in Americans), but the rest of us have had enough! We have gotten poorer, in our own country. We can't buy a house, anymore. We have no savings, no wealth. The average American has a lot of debt, from taxes, and other debts. Even when we earn a lot from our jobs, we owe so much, we are actually poor.

Why? Because we are spending it policing the world. We are spending it "bettering the world." We are spending it caring for everyone else, but ourselves. President Trump is America's way of saying, "We've had it! We've had enough! Fix your own problems! We can't help you! Fix it yourselves!"

If you Canadians want to take over being the world's police, have at it. We are tired of it.
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DeadlyOats wrote:


PeripheralVisionary wrote:


DeadlyOats wrote:


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What the Myanmar military / government have been doing is terrible, however, in light of what ISIS has been doing in the Middle East and in Europe, and their vow to do the same within the U.S. (actually they have, through radicalized Americans that did their crimes in the name of ISIS), I'm thinking this was what motivated the military to do these terrible things.

You automatically linked it to ISIS which has absolutely nothing to do with this NOTHING are you afraid of them that much that every little thing has to be linked to them?

I was wrong you are not a racist you are however maybe just a tad bit paranoid


ISIS isn't just sending terrorists to other countries. They also send preachers who radicalize otherwise peaceful Muslims. ISIS has been doing a lot to export terrorism globally. Those are facts. So, when I said that in light of those facts, it could be that the Myanmar government / military had gone to extermination mode, I was pointing out that it was a possible motive for their inhuman behavior.

With the way those people have been persecuted, it would be easy to radicalize them. However, I also acknowledged that ISIS probably wasn't involved with this. Take a look at the last paragraph. Maybe you didn't see what I wrote there.


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It's been building for a long time
http://studies.aljazeera.net/en/reports/2016/09/muslim-minorities-peril-rise-buddhist-violence-asia-160908090547506.html

Today it's the Muslims tomorrow the Hindus I guess when they finely get around to the Christensen that is when the west might act


I've never heard of radical Hindu-ism. I've never heard of Hindu terrorists beheading people or anything like that.



WHY ARE THEY BEING PERSECUTED

The Rohingya have always faced persecution and discrimination.

However that intensified in October last year following attacks by Rohingya militants which resulted in the Burmese military launching a series of so called “clearance operations” in northern Rakhine State.


What the Myanmar military / government have been doing is terrible, however, in light of what ISIS has been doing in the Middle East and in Europe, and their vow to do the same within the U.S. (actually they have, through radicalized Americans that did their crimes in the name of ISIS), I'm thinking this was what motivated the military to do these terrible things.

These Muslims made a bad situation for themselves much worse when they started killing Myanmar soldiers. I believe the the Myanmar government / military had a right to respond to the attacks, but not like this. This is inhuman. Even though I understand their fear of radical Islamic activity in their country, this action of theirs has put them on the wrong side of humanity.

Now that Myanmar is on the wrong side of humanity, their poor country is gonna be poorer, because of the coming U.N. sanctions. A bad situation will become worse for all of their people. And even though ISIS (probably) had noting to do with this one, it's another win for them.


Also, you refuse to apologize to me for calling me a racist, when you finally admit that I am not, but you call me other names.... When will you stop falsely accusing me of stuff? When will you stop with the name calling and bullying?


I wouldn't try to make such baseless hypotheses Oats. Perhaps they are radicalized by relations to ISIS, or maybe they are tired of being stateless and treated like shit. I honestly think research is due here on your part. I do think it is important we do not romanticize the Rohingyas, though I find it hard to condemn any current violence due to their treatment.

Note: Show more tact. Do research. Guesses when made out of ignorance can hurt, and do not qualify as hypotheses. Especially considering how defenseless the Rohingyas are for them to be in concentration camps in the first place.


But that's why I said that ISIS probably had nothing to do with it! I pointed out how badly the people were treated, and that it was probably what drove them to that act of violence. These people don't have anyone sending them weapons, or giving them training. That's why I can say that ISIS probably isn't involved.

However, it's not beyond possible for ISIS to take advantage of that situation. This is probably why the government / military did what they did. It was PROBABLY a motivating factor. Probably, not definitely. (I'm not excusing them. Please don't say that I said that their actions were justified. They are not!)



Seems like more of a reason for the US to act, but I doubt ISIS will be involved. There is little gain when you are 10% of the population that is being starved to death without food, much less weapons. Radicalization is possible in some cases if there is a stabilizing infrastructure. Though again, Myanmar is not without tightly knit borders.
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But that is globalism. That is what we want to leave. It is their fault that they use their militaries to suppress their own people. It is their fault if their militaries can't compete with another military force. It is their fault if their military can't protect their own. I, and many Americans are tired if protecting the world. Why? Because the world doesn't want to protect itself. The world seems to depend on America, and seems to depend on America to pay for it all.

America seems strong, but that's the government doing things at the expense of the people of America. There are super wealthy Americans who are leftists who don't have a second thought of spending the money (in taxes), or the lives (in Americans), but the rest of us have had enough! We have gotten poorer, in our own country. We can't buy a house, anymore. We have no savings, no wealth. The average American has a lot of debt, from taxes, and other debts. Even when we earn a lot from our jobs, we owe so much, we are actually poor.

Why? Because we are spending it policing the world. We are spending it "bettering the world." We are spending it caring for everyone else, but ourselves. President Trump is America's way of saying, "We've had it! We've had enough! Fix your own problems! We can't help you! Fix it yourselves!"

If you Canadians want to take over being the world's police, have at it. We are tired of it.


There is that word again , globalism. Let me remind you of a certain Island nation we're all more then familiar with , Japan. They enacted a policy we now refer to as Sakoku ( closed country). It really isn't much different then what your useless new president is doing. And for a time it actually lead to internal peace and stability, but as we later find it weakened them. Being a good American I am sure you're also aware of Matthew C. Perry and his actions on July 8, 1853. And the Convention of Kanagawa which he forced the Japanese to sign. Point is you spend too much time looking within you forget what is without .

And America isn't poor, you lot are just idiots with your money. You all want the fancy cars, the mansions, and the gold digging trophy wives. And you expect to be given it by ludicrous tax breaks and even more ludicrous wage hikes. You're starting to sound like a spoiled child mate, you really are. And you've presented poor counter arguments.
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>>This is the first i have heard about this? and Oats summed it up right in statement below

The sad thing is that the media didn't report any of this until it was already too late. This is something that should have been front and center from the beginning. No news at all of these people even existing, and being brutally persecuted the way they were - before the genocide even started. Where was the media all of that time? What have they been doing, and where have they been, when this was going on? Why did they wait until genocide, before reporting the inhumanity that was going on before then?
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