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Posted 2/14/17 , edited 2/14/17
Just recently found this gem randomly on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-xxis7hDOE

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Edit: Before lorreen mercilessly destroys this thread due to lack of discussion:

Do you think satire such as this is a clear indicator that many countries in the world are going to undermine the United States in the future or treat us as the laughingstock of modern day politics?

Also, here's some more Welcome Donald Trump videos:
http://everysecondcounts.eu/
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Just recently found this gem randomly on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-xxis7hDOE

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That was too funny Those crazy dutch bast**** I love em
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I always knew the Dutch weren't right in the head but damn...
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I've been looking for somewhere to migrate to that doesn't have quite such bad weather, so I might look into Holland after watching that. T'was brilliant. I am seriously surprised by the "Minister of Silly Walks" gag though. Is Monty Python still a thing over there? But to address the "discussion":


BirdOfFlocks wrote:

Do you think satire such as this is a clear indicator that many countries in the world are going to undermine the United States in the future or treat us as the laughingstock of modern day politics?


"Satire". That is your answer. Satire is not to be taken seriously. Take this from a member of the UK, whose general sense of humour is largely satire-based. We don't dislike other countries, we just... want to be left alone by them... and not take on their workers... and various other things. (Wasn't going to make that silly gag, but I just realised how the UK's general outlook seems to have changed.)

But... yeah, not so much. Does it mean we foreigners will undermine you guys? No. Treat you as a political laughing stock? Very possibly, but it could easily get dull. These will also depend on what Trump actually does, though, and how massively he screws you over.

To be honest, I feel like, in a "global impressions" sense, the next 4 years will play out similarly to G.W.B's presidency. We thought he was a laugh too. If anything, we could be laughing less, because Trump might actually turn out to be dangerous.

Edit: So it turns out this is a co-operative movement. All of these "X Second" videos are being thrown onto this site: http://everysecondcounts.eu/ if you want to edit that into the OP.
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BirdOfFlocks wrote:
treat us as the laughingstock of modern day politics?


We deserve it.

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this one is pretty funny too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVDR-y03XX4
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Oh, thanks for the link. I'll be sure to edit.

And a minor disagreement on satire: Satire is often used to criticize or make an argument on certain events/issues/people. Even though satire can be funny, the context behind some things are still very terrible and serious, and satire can be used as way of saying, "this needs to stop or change." I'd say satire is moderately serious and can be effective in raising awareness and perhaps even make a situation more understandable to someone who might not see why something is bad or good until it's ridiculed.

Regarding global impressions, it seems that lately Trump's been doing the alpha-male gorilla shake with world leaders (Japan's is pretty funny:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiitQ-5_E_Y) and I'm worried his loose-cannon behavior is going to piss off quite a few countries over these next four years. Under Obama's terms, I've traveled to France, Ecuador, Canada, and Dominican Republic, so I'm curious to see if I traveled under Trump, how would interactions with foreigners be compared to under Obama. I'm not too keen on experiencing some newfound animosity if America's relationship deteriorates more with the world.
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We are already a political laughing stock... and we deserve it. We elected Trump, we deserve what follows.
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We are already a political laughing stock... and we deserve it. We elected Trump, we deserve what follows.


This is a very simplistic view of a very complicated scenario. While it's not an excuse to say "he didn't win!", it is true that Trump's victory was due to the flaws of your electoral system. By popular vote, Clinton won. Again, this isn't saying that Trump doesn't deserve to be President, but it is saying that you shouldn't blame your countrymen so easily. That way, madness lies. On top of that argument, if I heard correctly, some of the blame has to lie with the media for not immediately treating him as a contender. From what I have seen, the initial coverage of Trump was "hey look it's that clown again", and there was a lot more Trump coverage than there was of other candidates. I mean, the US isn't alone in that sense, but a country's media outlets need to balance the coverage on their own election. If you show too much of one candidate, no matter who it is or how early it is in the campaign, you're accidentally improving their chances.

Edit: Also, people make mistakes. They don't deserve to suffer too hard for those mistakes.
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i loved it i am from the netherlands and i found it really funny.
sorry for my english btw
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it is true
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This is a very simplistic view of a very complicated scenario. While it's not an excuse to say "he didn't win!", it is true that Trump's victory was due to the flaws of your electoral system. By popular vote, Clinton won. Again, this isn't saying that Trump doesn't deserve to be President, but it is saying that you shouldn't blame your countrymen so easily. That way, madness lies. On top of that argument, if I heard correctly, some of the blame has to lie with the media for not immediately treating him as a contender. From what I have seen, the initial coverage of Trump was "hey look it's that clown again", and there was a lot more Trump coverage than there was of other candidates. I mean, the US isn't alone in that sense, but a country's media outlets need to balance the coverage on their own election. If you show too much of one candidate, no matter who it is or how early it is in the campaign, you're accidentally improving their chances.

Edit: Also, people make mistakes. They don't deserve to suffer too hard for those mistakes.


People need to suffer through their mistakes to learn. You don't learn by getting a slap on the wrist. Tell that to my 3 bullies who went on to commit murder. I told the teachers that they needed more than ISS. They never gave it, never sent them to Juvy...

One went on to kill a friend of mine, one beat his grandmas skull in with a metal pipe, and the other killed his adoptive mother. I believe if they had been in Juvy for months, years even... this may have never happened. Well... They are in jail now. It only took three peoples lives to get them there! Good right?!

The USA elected Trump. He won, it is done, I wont even deny that. Is it a great mistake? I dare say yes. We have pissed off most of our allies already and the upper echelon is leaking like a boat with too many holes. Take Flynn, who resigned within a month for communications with Russia which the White House knew since January, but never commented on it. Where am I getting at, you may ask? America needs to suffer for this.. They deserve it. From this either of two main scenarios will occur:

1) We are content with Trump and move to a political spectrum that he follows (due to popular vote with Hillary and Trumps 40% approval rating a few weeks in, unlikely)
2) We find out this isn't exactly what we wanted and learn from the suffering and mistakes, death and loss that occurred during this election cycle.
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I didn't realise the Dutch second video became such a global thing. But I think it's great. Satire might help us put some things in perspective. It also seems to be uniting the world in a round of laughs. Let's just hope he doesn't use the nuclear codes for the next four years and then you can elect someone else.

That is, if your voting system will allow it. After all this is the second time the US ended up with a president they didn't want due to the whole popular vote vs electoral college thing...
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Dark_Alma wrote:


Noerdic wrote:

This is a very simplistic view of a very complicated scenario. While it's not an excuse to say "he didn't win!", it is true that Trump's victory was due to the flaws of your electoral system. By popular vote, Clinton won. Again, this isn't saying that Trump doesn't deserve to be President, but it is saying that you shouldn't blame your countrymen so easily. That way, madness lies. On top of that argument, if I heard correctly, some of the blame has to lie with the media for not immediately treating him as a contender. From what I have seen, the initial coverage of Trump was "hey look it's that clown again", and there was a lot more Trump coverage than there was of other candidates. I mean, the US isn't alone in that sense, but a country's media outlets need to balance the coverage on their own election. If you show too much of one candidate, no matter who it is or how early it is in the campaign, you're accidentally improving their chances.

Edit: Also, people make mistakes. They don't deserve to suffer too hard for those mistakes.


People need to suffer through their mistakes to learn. You don't learn by getting a slap on the wrist. Tell that to my 3 bullies who went on to commit murder. I told the teachers that they needed more than ISS. They never gave it, never sent them to Juvy...


Would corporal punishment suffice?
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