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I wrote a research paper on this. The animals (mostly pregnant female pigs) will have stem cells implanted into their embryos so that the pig fetus grows and develops a specific human organ. The hybrid pig will look just like a normal pig with the exception of having a human organ inside. Scientists are only trying to grow a human organ inside an animal they are not trying to create a human-like pig monster.

Currently no animal hybrid (chimera) has been allowed to be born, all hybrid experiments have been terminated within the 28 day mark.

The hybrids won't gain the capability to talk because the pigs DNA is too different from a humans.

Also the whole human DNA corruption thing mentioned will never happen because the hybrids (chimers) will not be and are not allowed to breed. As I said the hybrids will look just like pigs being born from pigs, no human will ever give birth to a hybrid, so humans will never have mixed DNA or be worrying about not being a "pure" human.

The NIH drafted policy of don'ts.http://osp.od.nih.gov/under-the-poliscope/2016/08/next-steps-research-using-animal-embryos-containing-human-cells
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i don't see too big a issues with some minor use of cross genomization just not to the level of creating cat people for example
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Infowars.com is not a source lolz
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Ryulightorb wrote:


BirdOfFlocks wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


Transhumans are going to become a reality something i have hoped for, for a long time.


Have you heard of the Transhumanist Party and Zoltan Istvan?


Nope doesn't ring a bell


If you're interested in transhuman ideas, maybe you'll like the Transhumanist Party?
http://www.zoltanistvan.com/TranshumanistParty.html
http://transhumanist-party.org/
http://www.zoltanistvan.com/index.html

Zoltan Istvan was the party founder and ran for president in the 2016 election. He campaigned around the country in a coffin shaped bus to raise awareness of transhumanism. He stepped down as leader of the party just recently because he wants to run under the libertarian party for better chances of becoming governor of California. Zoltan also wrote a pretty interesting sci-fi book called the Transhumanist Wager. He's done a lot of articles for several media outlets and a number of speeches and presentations. He's a pretty cool dude with some neat ideas.
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soulsinferno wrote:

Infowars.com is not a source lolz


Alex Jones is a nut.
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BirdOfFlocks wrote:



If you're interested in transhuman ideas, maybe you'll like the Transhumanist Party?
http://www.zoltanistvan.com/TranshumanistParty.html
http://transhumanist-party.org/
http://www.zoltanistvan.com/index.html

Zoltan Istvan was the party founder and ran for president in the 2016 election. He campaigned around the country in a coffin shaped bus to raise awareness of transhumanism. He stepped down as leader of the party just recently because he wants to run under the libertarian party for better chances of becoming governor of California. Zoltan also wrote a pretty interesting sci-fi book called the Transhumanist Wager. He's done a lot of articles for several media outlets and a number of speeches and presentations. He's a pretty cool dude with some neat ideas.


Sweet someone is finally advocating for what we should have been doing all along. Maybe you Yanks aren't bad as your President makes you out to be.
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BirdOfFlocks wrote:

If you're interested in transhuman ideas, maybe you'll like the Transhumanist Party?
http://www.zoltanistvan.com/TranshumanistParty.html
http://transhumanist-party.org/
http://www.zoltanistvan.com/index.html

Zoltan Istvan was the party founder and ran for president in the 2016 election. He campaigned around the country in a coffin shaped bus to raise awareness of transhumanism. He stepped down as leader of the party just recently because he wants to run under the libertarian party for better chances of becoming governor of California. Zoltan also wrote a pretty interesting sci-fi book called the Transhumanist Wager. He's done a lot of articles for several media outlets and a number of speeches and presentations. He's a pretty cool dude with some neat ideas.


Interesting will look thanks.
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animals that are part human.




Wonderful, I don't see the problem.


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keknight wrote:

I wrote a research paper on this. The animals (mostly pregnant female pigs) will have stem cells implanted into their embryos so that the pig fetus grows and develops a specific human organ. The hybrid pig will look just like a normal pig with the exception of having a human organ inside. Scientists are only trying to grow a human organ inside an animal they are not trying to create a human-like pig monster.

Currently no animal hybrid (chimera) has been allowed to be born, all hybrid experiments have been terminated within the 28 day mark.

The hybrids won't gain the capability to talk because the pigs DNA is too different from a humans.

Also the whole human DNA corruption thing mentioned will never happen because the hybrids (chimers) will not be and are not allowed to breed. As I said the hybrids will look just like pigs being born from pigs, no human will ever give birth to a hybrid, so humans will never have mixed DNA or be worrying about not being a "pure" human.

The NIH drafted policy of don'ts.http://osp.od.nih.gov/under-the-poliscope/2016/08/next-steps-research-using-animal-embryos-containing-human-cells


https://www.technologyreview.com/s/545106/human-animal-chimeras-are-gestating-on-us-research-farms/


Because chimeras could provide a new supply of organs for needy patients and also lead to basic discoveries, researchers including Garry say they intend to press forward despite the NIH position. In November, he was one of 11 authors who published a letter criticizing the agency for creating “a threat to progress” that “casts a shadow of negativity” on their work.


If one institution can ignore NiH's position on the restriction of studies and experimentation, others can, too.


Last September, in a reversal of earlier policy, the National Institutes of Health announced it would not support studies involving such “human-animal chimeras” until it had reviewed the scientific and social implications more closely.
Hiromitsu Nakauchi

The agency, in a statement, said it was worried about the chance that animals’ “cognitive state” could be altered if they ended up with human brain cells.

The NIH action was triggered after it learned that scientists had begun such experiments with support from other funding sources, including from California’s state stem-cell agency. The human-animal mixtures are being created by injecting human stem cells into days-old animal embryos, then gestating these in female livestock.

Based on interviews with three teams, two in California and one in Minnesota, MIT Technology Review estimates that about 20 pregnancies of pig-human or sheep-human chimeras have been established during the last 12 months in the U.S., though so far no scientific paper describing the work has been published, and none of the animals were brought to term.

The extent of the research was disclosed in part during presentations made at the NIH’s Maryland campus in November at the agency’s request. One researcher, Juan Carlos Izpisua Belmonte of the Salk Institute, showed unpublished data on more than a dozen pig embryo containing human cells. Another, from the University of Minnesota, provided photographs of a 62-day-old pig fetus in which the addition of human cells appeared to have reversed a congenital eye defect.


It appears that it may be possible to make animals real smart. Probably smart enough to communicate, if not actually talk. Also, your 28 day limit appears to be ignored.

It could be that in the U.S., and many European countries, those restrictions will be respected. But how about in places where the value of human life is very, very low, where experimentation on prisoners for other research already occur, countries that don't feel they owe any need to respect the moral limits imposed by the NiH, for example?
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