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Posted 2/18/17 , edited 2/18/17
Eveyrthing is playing fine,my internet is more thant enough and so is my computer,but there's an issue that's been bugging for a while ,is that when there's panning(especially when it's up and down like in Dragon Super 79) there's a slight stutter in the image,like a bad encode,it's not smooth and i'm wondering if it's normal or if there's a way to fix it.Every scenes play normally,it only happens with there's panning.

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Posted 2/19/17

Shoryuguitard wrote:

Eveyrthing is playing fine,my internet is more thant enough and so is my computer,but there's an issue that's been bugging for a while ,is that when there's panning(especially when it's up and down like in Dragon Super 79) there's a slight stutter in the image,like a bad encode,it's not smooth and i'm wondering if it's normal or if there's a way to fix it.Every scenes play normally,it only happens with there's panning.

Using Chrome,Also happens in Firefox
Window 7 64 Bit
I7 3770 3.4 GHZ
GTX 650 TI Boost
8GB RAM


I would recommend checking VSync settings on your graphics card, and make sure it matches your monitor.
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Posted 2/19/17 , edited 2/19/17

eyeofpain wrote:


Shoryuguitard wrote:

Eveyrthing is playing fine,my internet is more thant enough and so is my computer,but there's an issue that's been bugging for a while ,is that when there's panning(especially when it's up and down like in Dragon Super 79) there's a slight stutter in the image,like a bad encode,it's not smooth and i'm wondering if it's normal or if there's a way to fix it.Every scenes play normally,it only happens with there's panning.

Using Chrome,Also happens in Firefox
Window 7 64 Bit
I7 3770 3.4 GHZ
GTX 650 TI Boost
8GB RAM


I would recommend checking VSync settings on your graphics card, and make sure it matches your monitor.


It's on and it's using the Global setting of my GPU and it's still doing it.Seems like Crunchyroll is the only website doing that for me.It's not super noticeable,but there's a jerkiness in the panning,For exemple,Dragon Ball Super 79 around 6:58 when there's panning on the gods.I heard it might be caused by the Flash player Crunchy is using,
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It's called judder. Anime is animated at (factors of) 24 frames per second, but typically displayed at approximately 30 or 60 frames per second. Those numbers don't divide evenly into each other, so some frames get repeated, causing jerkiness in scenes with slow panning.

A lot of modern TVs and DVD or Blu-Ray players will compensate for this if the material is encoded at 24 fps. But not all content is encoded that way, not all displays and players account for it, and web-based players almost never account for it.
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Posted 2/19/17 , edited 2/19/17

flamepanther wrote:

It's called judder. Anime is animated at (factors of) 24 frames per second, but typically displayed at approximately 30 or 60 frames per second. Those numbers don't divide evenly into each other, so some frames get repeated, causing jerkiness in scenes with slow panning.

A lot of modern TVs and DVD or Blu-Ray players will compensate for this if the material is encoded at 24 fps. But not all content is encoded that way, not all displays and players account for it, and web-based players almost never account for it.


So it's a normal behavior coming from Crunchy player not accounting for it ?

Also i tried messing around with my refresh rate,switchng it from 60hz to 24hz and the jerkiness disapear,so it seems it doesnt like 60hz very much.
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Posted 2/19/17 , edited 2/19/17

Shoryuguitard wrote:


flamepanther wrote:

It's called judder. Anime is animated at (factors of) 24 frames per second, but typically displayed at approximately 30 or 60 frames per second. Those numbers don't divide evenly into each other, so some frames get repeated, causing jerkiness in scenes with slow panning.

A lot of modern TVs and DVD or Blu-Ray players will compensate for this if the material is encoded at 24 fps. But not all content is encoded that way, not all displays and players account for it, and web-based players almost never account for it.


So it's a normal behavior coming from Crunchy player not accounting for it ?

Also i tried messing around with my refresh rate,switchng it from 60hz to 24hz and the jerkiness disapear,so it seems it doesnt like 60hz very much.
I don't use the web player much, but based on your report about forcing the display to 24Hz, I'd say yes. To be fair, I don't think a Flash based player even can account for it, so not really CR's fault there.

I mostly use the unofficial "takeout" plugin for Kodi, and I find that it does try to adjust the refresh rate of the display if the display and OS both allow it (and if Kodi is configured to do so). The main downside is a short "blip"at the start of an episode while the refresh rate changes.

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Posted 2/19/17 , edited 2/19/17

flamepanther wrote:


Shoryuguitard wrote:


flamepanther wrote:

It's called judder. Anime is animated at (factors of) 24 frames per second, but typically displayed at approximately 30 or 60 frames per second. Those numbers don't divide evenly into each other, so some frames get repeated, causing jerkiness in scenes with slow panning.

A lot of modern TVs and DVD or Blu-Ray players will compensate for this if the material is encoded at 24 fps. But not all content is encoded that way, not all displays and players account for it, and web-based players almost never account for it.


So it's a normal behavior coming from Crunchy player not accounting for it ?

Also i tried messing around with my refresh rate,switchng it from 60hz to 24hz and the jerkiness disapear,so it seems it doesnt like 60hz very much.
I don't use the web player much, but based on your report about forcing the display to 24Hz, I'd say yes. To be fair, I don't think a Flash based player even can account for it, so not really CR's fault there.

I mostly use the unofficial "takeout" plugin for Kodi, and I find that it does try to adjust the refresh rate of the display if the display and OS both allow it (and if Kodi is configured to do so). The main downside is a short "blip"at the start of an episode while the refresh rate changes.



Well let's hope the futur HTML player is going to fix that,the old unofficial HTML extension and FuniNow played the same episode flawlessly with minimal judder,so it's probably the flash player.
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