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Posted 2/22/17 , edited 2/24/17
I found out recently that i can play my ps2 games through an emulator at 60fps with 3-8x the resolution.

I have a lot of PS2 games that i never got around to play. The graphic is horrible on the ps2 system and I don't want to pay for the games again just so i can play it on the PS4 (PS2 on PS4 games). I already have the games on discs

I also found out that my laptop can not handle these PS2 games playing at 3X and up the resolution without slowing down..

I think I'll just build a gaming PC. My budget is 600-700. I'll play mostly PS2 games

Any PC gamer here? any suggestion for me ?

This will be my first time building a PC as well.. so any tips will be appreciated. I'll buy the parts from Newegg.

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Posted 2/23/17 , edited 3/6/17
Let's see... so your overall purpose is to play PS2 games on your PC? I guess I can suggest a build within that price range that should give you the ability to do that and possibly play some PC games (not at ultra/max setting though).

Build 1: Parts

This build will put you around your range. I tried to keep it a little lower ($413.37) because you'll still have to buy a version of Windows, a DVD-ROM (for your PS2 games), and a monitor. You may want to get a better CPU heatsink than stock. They normally range between $15-50 depending on how "elite" you want to go.

Build 2: Parts

I threw together a build similar to this for a friend that plays CS:GO, LoL, and emulates PS2/Nintendo 64 games quite a bit. I've included a monitor, Windows 10 Home, and a DVD-ROM drive. Again, left out the heatsink. Stock heatsinks aren't the greatest but they will last you about a year or so with excessive use. I suggested an SSD drive so that games would load faster - might not be applicable to you if you're going to be using the DVD-ROM drive for your PS2 games.

Both builds will probably come around the same price (about $100 over what you're looking at unless you already have a monitor and an OEM version of Windows or if you're using Linux). The first build will put you within your $600-700 range, I'd think. The second, I threw in everything you'd need. Of course, you can kill the SSD in the second build and it'll put you back within budget (personally, I don't build a PC without an SSD for the OS drive these days).
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Posted 2/23/17 , edited 3/6/17
This is one I build for a friend some months ago:

It was not meant as a gamer PC, but it sure can play games.

It does not have a dedicated video card, but its integrated video is strong enough plus leaves you with the option to upgrade with a dedicated gpu later.

16GB RAM 2400MHz, may sound like a lot, but remember that the integrated card ill use the ram as well.

If I remember right it was able to play CS:GO on max settings without problems

About the cooler, this particular CPU comes with a really good stock cooler, but it was too big for the case I had bough, if you instead choose a larger case, you can drop the water cooler and get extra money to spend, and I suggest then a better motherboard, to upgrade later (expansion slots)

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Also you should check Amazon, sometimes you can find an equivalent part cheaper there (discounts, promos, etc)
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I hear that whwn running PS2 libraries with a integrated APU (CPUs with graphics), it'll make them run smoother. Plus today's CPUs are little more than good enough to run vast majority of titles.
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Posted 2/23/17

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I hear that whwn running PS2 libraries with a integrated APU (CPUs with graphics), it'll make them run smoother. Plus today's CPUs are little more than good enough to run vast majority of titles.


thats great then, cause the one I used is an APU. AMD A10 7890k
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Dumdodoor wrote:

I hear that whwn running PS2 libraries with a integrated APU (CPUs with graphics), it'll make them run smoother. Plus today's CPUs are little more than good enough to run vast majority of titles.



not with laptop CPUs..

i have i7 7th gen 7500U or something.. it's only 2 cores.

when at 3x native I can still play but the fan is on high all the time, if i turned it to 8x native the the fan will be at max setting and the game will pretty much in slow mode. It will take seconds just to turn the camera

Graphic on this laptop is not great either Nvidia Geforce 940MX 4GB
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Posted 2/23/17
PS2 emulation is pretty shitty though
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Posted 2/23/17

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PS2 emulation is pretty shitty though


i'm using PCSX2..

it's a lot better on those "PS2 games on PS4 " they are selling you you on the PS store.

Square Enix announced Star Ocean 3 recently
http://gematsu.com/2017/02/star-ocean-till-end-time-announced-ps4

i got the game running on 3x native
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3QA0Vn51nU&list=UUorrpWXMPNDKMSezMXc16CQ&index=1

it looks great at 8X native but my laptop can barely run the game at 3x so..

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Posted 2/24/17 , edited 2/24/17

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Let's see... so your overall purpose is to play PS2 games on your PC? I guess I can suggest a build within that price range that should give you the ability to do that and possibly play some PC games (not at ultra/max setting though).

Build 1: Parts

This build will put you around your range. I tried to keep it a little lower ($413.37) because you'll still have to buy a version of Windows, a DVD-ROM (for your PS2 games), and a monitor. You may want to get a better CPU heatsink than stock. They normally range between $15-50 depending on how "elite" you want to go.

Build 2: Parts

I threw together a build similar to this for a friend that plays CS:GO, LoL, and emulates PS2/Nintendo 64 games quite a bit. I've included a monitor, Windows 10 Home, and a DVD-ROM drive. Again, left out the heatsink. Stock heatsinks aren't the greatest but they will last you about a year or so with excessive use. I suggested an SSD drive so that games would load faster - might not be applicable to you if you're going to be using the DVD-ROM drive for your PS2 games.

Both builds will probably come around the same price (about $100 over what you're looking at unless you already have a monitor and an OEM version of Windows or if you're using Linux). The first build will put you within your $600-700 range, I'd think. The second, I threw in everything you'd need. Of course, you can kill the SSD in the second build and it'll put you back within budget (personally, I don't build a PC without an SSD for the OS drive these days).


sorry for the late reply. I didn't notice the links until last night (i thought they were was some orange words)

can i play most ps2 games and pc games with this setup
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MQxwHN

do i need a core i7 or a i5 would be fine? i got a Crucial MX300 750G SSD for $57 on Black friday last year. I hope all the parts listed will get cheaper so maybe i can get everything for $600-$800 :)

looking through my list do you think i should get something else or they are good parts for a decent PC ?

I play PS2 games on my laptop at the moment via bluetooth. Don't i need a bluetooth card for the PC ?

thanks
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Posted 2/24/17

simple..

set up deal alerts..
slickdeals.com

i5

ssd

1070 gcard

16gb ram

corsair psu

gigabyte or asus mb

always deals if you wait..
Posted 2/25/17

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can i play most ps2 games and pc games with this setup
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MQxwHN


This build is actually more intense than either of the builds I sent you in the last response. It would definitely work for PS2 games and push you closer to "Ultra/Max" settings on certain PC games too. I'd only recommend bumping up the PSU (power supply) to 600W, just to ensure you wouldn't have to upgrade that any time soon, either.


dulun18 wrote:
do i need a core i7 or a i5 would be fine?


An i5 would be alright, as long as it's quad core. You could get the i5-6500 or 7500 without much complication.



dulun18 wrote:
looking through my list do you think i should get something else or they are good parts for a decent PC ?
I play PS2 games on my laptop at the moment via bluetooth. Don't i need a bluetooth card for the PC ?


The build you sent was absolutely fine as it is. It's a bit outside of the budget you gave in the OP (as I'm sure you're aware). Bluetooth adapters are pretty easy to get (USB-based ones). Getting a card inside is just a waste of a PCI-e slot. I use the official Sony Bluetooth adapter for the PS4 controller to play some games, it's pretty useful.
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Posted 2/25/17 , edited 2/26/17

ninjitsuko wrote:

This build is actually more intense than either of the builds I sent you in the last response. It would definitely work for PS2 games and push you closer to "Ultra/Max" settings on certain PC games too. I'd only recommend bumping up the PSU (power supply) to 600W, just to ensure you wouldn't have to upgrade that any time soon, either.

An i5 would be alright, as long as it's quad core. You could get the i5-6500 or 7500 without much complication.

The build you sent was absolutely fine as it is. It's a bit outside of the budget you gave in the OP (as I'm sure you're aware). Bluetooth adapters are pretty easy to get (USB-based ones). Getting a card inside is just a waste of a PCI-e slot. I use the official Sony Bluetooth adapter for the PS4 controller to play some games, it's pretty useful.


*the pictures i uploaded didn't appear in this post for some reason :? anyway..


i noticed the price aleart on pcpartpicker i guess i have to register to use it. It's a handy feature.


this is about my price range. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2dnY8K

the other one i switched out the i7 for the i5 7600T and 550W PSU

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TNptHN

the "T" processors are at a lower clock speed but they are using only 35W.

I'm not a PC gamer ( might be in the future). I just want to play my PS2 games at 8x native for now. I can barely run the games at 2x-3x on my laptop atm

The laptop processor (i7 7500U) is ok.. the graphic card is not so great (4GB Nvidida GeForce 940MX)



i have an old Samsung monitor. Do you think i can sell it or just use it myself? It think I bought it from 2005-2006.


Posted 2/27/17

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Depending on what generation of the i5/i3 you're looking at, the G4600T will be close or better in performance. You can always swap the G4600T with the G4560 if you want to save a few dollars. Outside of that, the PC you've put together is fine for the purpose you have in mind.

The only criticism would be to upgrade the graphics card to something a little beefier. For about $50 more, you can get the 1050 Ti instead of the rather outdated GTX 750 Ti. It'll definitely allow for 6-8x native resolution. The issue with laptop GPUs (graphic cards) is that they're usually underclocked and can't crank out the same specs as their desktop counterparts - so you can kind of ignore the experience you're having with the 940MX if you get the 1050 Ti.

As for the monitor? Up to you. I'm picky as hell about monitors because it feels like an important component of PC gaming that people tend to forget. But not everybody is going to buy a $1,200 monitor like I have, either.
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yo man, just wait for the new AMD RYZEN processor, it will be release in a week, its much more budget , with about 15% increase performance compare to the current i5 or i7 that cost more. be patience , u can get more bang for your buck!
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Posted 3/1/17 , edited 3/1/17

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yo man, just wait for the new AMD RYZEN processor, it will be release in a week, its much more budget , with about 15% increase performance compare to the current i5 or i7 that cost more. be patience , u can get more bang for your buck!


you are right ! https://pcpartpicker.com/products/cpu/#sort=a4&s=59

$329.. that's about same price as the i7 7700k.. except the Ryzen is 8 cores and only 65W TDP ?

thank you!

looks like i'll be starting the whole list over
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