Post Reply browser unnecessarily reloads anime and manga pages
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Posted 2/23/17 , edited 2/23/17
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Chrome browser on a Windows 10 desktop computer. I have a long-running problem which I have just lived with. Now that I have seen it when reading manga as well, it seemed time to ask about it. I watch both anime and manga in full-screen mode.

Problem 1
Usually at the end of an anime episode, but sometimes during the episode, I sometimes drop down the browser window to its normal size (neither full-screen nor minimized). It will usually refresh, forcing a reload of the anime pane. This sometimes takes several seconds and is unnecessary. I know that because sometimes no refresh occurs, and the anime continues from exactly where it was in full-screen mode. If I just leave everything alone, the window remains full-screen as each episode auto-plays. This problem does not occur at the Funimation site. It occasionally occurs on the YouTube site.

Problem 2
At the end of each manga chapter, the browser window always drops to normal size. The manga pane refreshes as well, but the refresh makes sense in this case because the next chapter loads in. I just started reading manga on Crunchyroll yesterday, so there could be other weirdnesses not yet experienced.

Fix?
Does anyone know how to fix either or both of these problems?

No, I have not tried using another browser, and I don't really want to. My Firefox has an animation blocker (Flashblock) add-in that stops most animations from auto-running, but it causes other problems. I use it for "surfing", not animation watching. My Edge has no log-ins. I keep that for when I want to surf anonymously or see how stuff behaves for someone not logged in. If information can be obtained to fix this in Chrome, I'll experiment with another browser, but I want to keep watching in Chrome.
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Posted 2/23/17

My answers assume you're using the flash version of the video player or manga reader, I'm not a Premium+ user so I don't know how the html5 solutions behave.

For Problem 1, in the context of the realtively new feature where the player can remain in fullscreen mode and load the next episode when autoplay is enabled, it is normal that a refresh (or to be more precise the loading of the episode's page) will occur after you leave fullscreen mode and a new episode was loaded.
I imagine this is handled this way so you can look at the comments for the episode you were watching before leaving fullscreen.

However, if you stay on the same episode you switched the player to fullscreen on there should be no reload occuring when leaving fullscreen and the video should just continue playing. If it still reloads despite only playing the one episode there is some kind of bug going on.

For Problem 2 as far as I can tell this is the expected behaviour and should be happening regardless of what browser you use.
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Posted 2/23/17
^ beat me to it.

The problems you are describing are a symptom of the auto-play (or perhaps more accurately auto-advance) implementation that CR (and YT to some extent) use. Basically for anime while you are full screen, if you allow it to advance to the next episode it will load the next stream all nice and neat without making you hit full screen again (this is relatively new for CR).. When that happens, the rest of the page hasn't been changed at all, so when you come out of full screen, it loads the correct page for that episode. Since the only part of the episode page that is modular is the comment section, with the rest being sent as a big chunk, it really is the easiest way to do it, even if it isn't the best experience.

The manga is the same issue in a different medium. The viewer isn't equipped to load the next chapter and so it loads the page for the next chapter instead breaking you out of full screen.

While it is possible to implement the video player and manga viewer in such a way that this refresh doesn't happen, doing so in the current flash versions would not be worth the time it would take, imo. There are HTML5 versions of both that are in various stages of in the works and while that may be something on the todo list, most likely they will opt to still have the page refresh when you come out of full screen just as youtube does.
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Posted 2/23/17 , edited 2/23/17
Thank you for the responses, guys. Even with an ultimate resolution of, "live with it -- it ain't so bad", at least I know what is going on now. ;)

Several months ago I asked a more general question on the superuser StackExchange (SE). Although there was a comment seeking further information, no one actually "answered" it (in the terminology of SE). Since beardfist has written an HTML5 player for CR, it seemed okay to consider his answer authoritative, and I quoted most of his post here in an answer to my own question. If either of you wish to respond over there as well, registration is free.
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