First  Prev  1  2  3  4  5  6  Next  Last
Post Reply Things you can do in other countries but not in America.
17161 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
28 / M
Offline
Posted 2/24/17

Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:

Go to the proper bathroom if you're trans.



LOL.. Ok lets go there I don't see why we don't make another bathroom, for those that are trans. The Trans Bathroom.. how about that, their is talk in doing just That in America.. hell even Trump has no issue with Trans people and their Bathrooms.. He just believes its not an Issue for the American Government, but instead for states to choose the laws for such things. So it will be dealt with by the sates that's all.. government outside of your state will not be taking a side. At least if Trump has his way.


But like I said I have no Issues with a third Bathroom being issued for to keep everyone happy.


It actually makes a lot of sense if it's up to the states. This really isn't something the government should have to get involved with.

They have far more problematic issues to deal with, like the shit trade deals that are ruining our country.
469 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
M / Florida, USA
Offline
Posted 2/24/17 , edited 2/24/17
I love how this thread downgraded into a trans-bathroom issue thread.

Edit: To answer the discussion, prostitution was legal when I visited France in 2014.
mxdan 
11220 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
27 / M / A Husk.
Online
Posted 2/24/17 , edited 3/2/17

descloud wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:

Go to the proper bathroom if you're trans.



LOL.. Ok lets go there I don't see why we don't make another bathroom, for those that are trans. The Trans Bathroom.. how about that, their is talk in doing just That in America.. hell even Trump has no issue with Trans people and their Bathrooms.. He just believes its not an Issue for the American Government, but instead for states to choose the laws for such things. So it will be dealt with by the sates that's all.. government outside of your state will not be taking a side. At least if Trump has his way.


But like I said I have no Issues with a third Bathroom being issued for to keep everyone happy.


It actually makes a lot of sense if it's up to the states. This really isn't something the government should have to get involved with.

They have far more problematic issues to deal with, like the shit trade deals that are ruining our country.


Bullshit.

It's a human rights issue. States don't get to decide whether someone's worth is 'valid' enough to corroborate their safety. Transgender people have a 40% attempted suicide rate. If they want to choose which bathroom to use, let them choose. There is no evidence to suggest they are more dangerous in another bathroom. It's just Evangelicals losing their mind because along the way they somehow forgot compassion if it doesn't involve someone who looks like them and thinks like them.

Secondly, Trump isn't some 'statesman'. He just is when it comes to human rights issues. Just recently his administration said they are going to continue to make weed a criminal offense -- even though it is a multibillion dollar industry -- making states an absurd amount of money with almost no real danger to it besides making someone lethargic.

But by all means lets let the two drugs that kill more people in a year then weed has ever killed continue to be legal. Who needs state choice right? Who needs economic freedom?
Posted 2/24/17

uncletim wrote:


So you'er for student carrying guns in school??

really?

Wow

well ok then


I didn't realize we were talking about kids, I don't see how a child has the mental capacity to decide they are the opposite sex. But whatever.

14305 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
22 / M
Offline
Posted 2/24/17
How about being able to do porn/hentai in the usa without those dumb censorships?
22027 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
53 / M / In
Online
Posted 2/24/17

Amyas_Leigh wrote:


uncletim wrote:


So you'er for student carrying guns in school??

really?

Wow

well ok then


I didn't realize we were talking about kids, I don't see how a child has the mental capacity to decide they are the opposite sex. But whatever.



Wow
So teens don't go to school and don't have the mental capacity to be trans?

Well maybe you didn't but today's teens seem to be on the ball
7499 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
Offline
Posted 2/24/17

RedExodus wrote:

How about being able to do porn/hentai in the usa without those dumb censorships?


What are you talking about, I LOVE censorship (said no one...ever).

17161 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
28 / M
Offline
Posted 2/24/17 , edited 3/2/17

mxdan wrote:


descloud wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:

Go to the proper bathroom if you're trans.



LOL.. Ok lets go there I don't see why we don't make another bathroom, for those that are trans. The Trans Bathroom.. how about that, their is talk in doing just That in America.. hell even Trump has no issue with Trans people and their Bathrooms.. He just believes its not an Issue for the American Government, but instead for states to choose the laws for such things. So it will be dealt with by the sates that's all.. government outside of your state will not be taking a side. At least if Trump has his way.


But like I said I have no Issues with a third Bathroom being issued for to keep everyone happy.


It actually makes a lot of sense if it's up to the states. This really isn't something the government should have to get involved with.

They have far more problematic issues to deal with, like the shit trade deals that are ruining our country.


Bullshit.

It's a human rights issue. States don't get to decide whether someone's worth is 'valid' enough to corroborate their safety. Transgender people have a 40% attempted suicide rate. If they want to choose which bathroom to use, let them choose. There is no evidence to suggest they are more dangerous in another bathroom. It's just Evangelicals losing their mind because along the way they somehow forgot compassion if it doesn't involve someone who looks like them and thinks like them.

Secondly, Trump isn't some 'statesman'. He just is when it comes to human rights issues. Just recently his administration said they are going to continue to make weed a criminal offense -- even though it is a multibillion dollar industry -- making states an absurd amount of money with almost no real danger to it besides making someone lethargic.

But by all means lets let the two drugs that kill more people in a year then weed has ever killed continue to be legal. Who needs state choice right? Who needs economic freedom?


A human rights issue is something that severely cripples a person(s) ability to live. Nobody stripping them of their basic human rights like access to clean water and food. Nor are we jailing them for being trans or telling them to attend a different school or they cannot vote . You want a REAL human rights issue? Look how the Taliban treats woman, that's a very real human rights issue.

Suicide happens for so many different reasons, so it has really nothing to do with the topic at hand. It's called balance of power between state and government. It's about time we start exercising it and the government stop dictating our lives.

So take this cry baby crap elsewhere, the states should decide.
30264 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
Offline
Posted 2/24/17 , edited 2/24/17

mxdan wrote:

Bullshit.

It's a human rights issue.


Yes, it is. Do humans have the right to declare themselves to be something they biologically are not, and if so, do other people around them have the right to decline to treat them as such? If not, is a person permitted to self-identify as *anything*? Where is the line drawn?


mxdan wrote:
States don't get to decide whether someone's worth is 'valid' enough to corroborate their safety. Transgender people have a 40% attempted suicide rate. If they want to choose which bathroom to use, let them choose. There is no evidence to suggest they are more dangerous in another bathroom. It's just Evangelicals losing their mind because along the way they somehow forgot compassion if it doesn't involve someone who looks like them and thinks like them.


And there is no evidence to suggest that *I* am any more dangerous in a woman's bathroom than in a man's bathroom, yet it is considered improper that I use the woman's bathroom. Whether one identifies as female or not does not make them any more OR LESS dangerous in a woman's bathroom. I guess the expedient solution would be to have only one bathroom, if it no longer matters what biological sex the individual using the bathroom is. (and I do believe the best solution is to just make all bathrooms non-gendered, individual-locking-stall type bathrooms. It solves the "this bathroom is crowded and has a line, but the other gender bathroom is totally empty" dilemma at the same time)

Oh, and on your other points: arms smuggling, human trafficking, and terrorism are "multi-billion-dollar industries" as well, but just because something is profitable does not make it morally sound. I do agree that marijuana should be a state decision, though. As far as I'm concerned, people should be able to slowly poison themselves all they want, just so long as no one else is catching their second-hand smoke. But if a drug-user ever, through their intoxication, caused an accident that harmed my loved ones... well, I'll just say I would hold that drug-user personally responsible.
30264 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
Offline
Posted 2/24/17 , edited 2/24/17

octorockandroll wrote:

There was something passed allowing trans people to use the proper bathrooms recently but even more recently it was revoked by a talking piece of butterscotch.

Edit: Oh, and because I care way too much about grammar, transgenders isn't a word. That's like saying colourblinds instead of colourblind people. Not that it matters.


You keep saying those words, "proper bathrooms". I do not think it means what you think it means.

What exactly is the "proper bathroom"? The bathroom that matches the biological sex, or the bathroom that matches the self-identified gender? The choice between those definitions of which constitutes "proper" is entirely arbitrary, yet you're here committing the logical fallacy of begging the question (with a side of poisoning the well), over and over, by unilaterally proclaiming that self-identified gender determines the "proper bathroom", without ever coming up with any logical reason why that is the case.

There is no inherently correct moral argument as to which is intrinsically more "proper", but at least with biological sex, it is a provable, either/ or case. Either you have a Y chromosome, or you do not (and yes, I am aware there are XXY genetic aberrations very occasionally). Conversely, you cannot scientifically, demonstrably prove someone's gender, and therefore anyone could, in theory, use whatever bathroom they feel like at any time, if self-identified gender were the yardstick.
30264 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
Offline
Posted 2/24/17 , edited 2/27/17

RedExodus wrote:

How about being able to do porn/hentai in the usa without those dumb censorships?


The irony being that ALL hard porn (depictions of genitalia) is banned in Japan, so ALL porn, regardless of intended audience, is partially censored, while in America, the Japanese "soft porn" where exposed breasts are depicted (even when as part of the plot or character development and not in the intent of titillation), is censored when it reaches the US, despite the fact that the US permits the production and dissemination porn with uncensored breasts AND genitalia, which would not be legal in Japan

... and then consider that Japan censors depictions of genitalia, yet prostitution is legal (unless there is vaginal intercourse, in which case it is illegal).

Yeah, the public morality laws in both countries are a bit arbitrary and contradictory
8967 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
19 / M / Palm Coast, Florida
Offline
Posted 2/24/17
I know some countries let people under 21 drink wine and some other alcohol, I don't think I'll ever understand how here in the US, you can drive when you are 16, can smoke cigars, and join the military (and die fighting for your country) but can't drink alcohol until you're 21. Sorry if this felt like a rant and being off topic, just had to get my opinion out there.
48129 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
Offline
Posted 2/24/17

clusters wrote:


Darkphoenix3450 wrote:
hell even Trump has no issue with Trans people and their Bathrooms.. He just believes its not an Issue for the American Government, but instead for states to choose the laws for such things. So it will be dealt with by the sates that's all.. government outside of your state will not be taking a side. At least if Trump has his way.


I have not heard anything about this, but it sounds like he's just trying to pass the buck. Sounds like a civil rights issue, nothing to do with states rights.

Not like it matters in the end as our government clearly doesn't care much about individual freedoms anymore.


I would say it doesn't meet a criteria for a civil rights issue on a legal scale. As regardless of if a organization that supplies public bathrooms decides that their public bathroom usage policy is that you let a trans person use the bathroom for their chosen identity or if they want you to use a bathroom based off your biological sex which does not change for trans people. There is a place that you can use per store policy, it would only be a civil rights issue if you were denied access to any restroom because of your condition.

But yes you are right our government hasn't done much to protect individual freedoms recently(thanks Obama), and not sure we will ever get someone who cares much about individual rights in there as most people who do have better things to do with their time than go into politics.

Basically we traded a collectivist/socialist for a populist/nationalist
7652 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
30 / M
Offline
Posted 2/24/17

ninjitsuko wrote:

Japan vs America:
  • Wa - "Harmony" - One of the major differences I notice when I lived in Japan (as well as when I go there for work) is that independent virtues aren't really important in Japanese culture. So, for example, most of the things that we squabble and bicker about here on Crunchyroll's forums (like the bathroom thing) wouldn't necessarily come up in Japan (traditionally). It's more important to be submissive to your superiors and/or elders. I notice this quite often seeing as I'm officially an executive in the company I work for, despite feeling like a rather chill person who's working with others - the expectation is that I'm always given respect by those who aren't on the same "tier" as me in Japan. It's strange (to me).
  • Pushing on Public Transit Systems (train/buses) - It's pretty natural in Japan to push people when trying to fit into a train or bus. I'm 6'4", 240lbs. I have no problems pushing around the vast majority of Japanese when trying to get onto the train (fitting, on the other hand, may always be a complication). But when I've done this in London, England or in some transit systems in America... it's seen as overly aggressive/offensive.
  • Holding the Door - This is something that's a little interesting to me. I have the habit of holding the door for people (American/Western value). In Japan, it isn't considered "rude" to not hold the door open for someone (women or men). When I asked around, the most simplified answer I'd get was "Being polite has nothing to do with holding doors. It's about mannerisms."


One thing that is part of the "Wa" mentality in Japan is being indirect. Confrontation is not something that's really desired in Japan and seeking it means that you're being disrespectful. Passive-aggressiveness/indirect insults are pretty common. At work, if I point out an error in someone else's programming or an error they've made in implementation (to our Japanese customers or partner), then it becomes a major issue. It's disrespectful and shows arrogance (no matter what "rank" you are in the company). Conversations like that should happen behind closed doors and only during the time for a review (one on one). Not when you're in an open room where it's considered an unnecessary confrontation. If you confront someone even personally outside of work, that's considered rude/disrespectful. It's the complete opposite of American/Western mentality - where you'd consider an indirect comment as disrespectful and expect a confrontation to deal with it one on one.


On the whole confrontation we the United States kind of broke them of that. Japan used to be like every other country. Now they just want to better themselves.
14725 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
27 / M / Houma
Offline
Posted 2/24/17

octorockandroll wrote:


TheAngryLittleAlchemist wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:

Go to the proper bathroom if you're trans.


Didn't something just pass so that we get transgender bathrooms or am i wrong?

Personally to me it seems like having a separate bathroom for transgenders kind of makes the point of being trans mute to begin with, kind of dumb


There was something passed allowing trans people to use the proper bathrooms recently but even more recently it was revoked by a talking piece of butterscotch.

Edit: Oh, and because I care way too much about grammar, transgenders isn't a word. That's like saying colourblinds instead of colourblind people. Not that it matters.


It's the natural evolution of language. If a string of vocals becomes widely used and understood within a population speaking a language it becomes part of that language. If we didn't do this we wouldn't have new words and we would still say "Submersible Vessel" instead of the more shorthanded (but less specific) "Submarine."

Usage gives a word its meaning. I've seen this usage enough to immediately understand. It has likely already become a part of American English. A bit dehumanizing though, isn't it?
First  Prev  1  2  3  4  5  6  Next  Last
You must be logged in to post.