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Well so much for Trump respecting state rights

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-marijuana-20170223-story.html

even though it's generating 100s of millions of dollars in tax revenuers and drug crimes in the states that have legalized marijuana as voted on by the people of those states.

None of this matters to Trump who does not respect state rights


Even with states' rights, that does not mean that states can pass laws that supersede federal laws. There are many, many federal laws that, for whatever reason, Obama failed to enforce.

President Trump is taking the stance, that states cannot pass laws that supersede federal laws. In other words, if you want pot to be legal, it has to be legalized at the federal level, and then states can choose to be a pot free state, or a state that permits the use of pot.

Tennessee is a good example of this. Federal laws permits the consumption of Alcohol. The state of Tennessee permits the consumption of alcohol. However, BLANK county, in Tennessee, is a dry county. They distill Jack Daniels, but you can't drink it in BLANK county, but you can drink it in the county next to it.

It's like Prohibition. On the federal level, the consumption of alcohol was illegal, therefore no state could make laws permitting the consumption of alcohol. This is only one area where Obama failed to assert the federal government's place as the source of law.

So, if you want weed to be legal, you got to write your congressman or woman and tell them to pass a Bill for President Trump to sign into law.



So in the eyes of the Federal government it's better to give all that tax revenue the Mexican cartels then the states?

Does that sound right to you?

Where do you think DEA resources are bettered used stopping the flow of hard drugs or busting a pothead with a single plant in his back yard?


You are not paying attention. I said, that if you want to really legalize pot in the U.S., then you have to do it at the federal level. THEN states can make laws to regulate pot as they see fit, and tax it. I think Trump wants to re-assert federal laws being respected by and enforced by states. The pot issue isn't the only one. There are other issues that have to be addressed, but states making their own pot laws in defiance to federal law is just one of them.
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I don't even follow the media really, I notice things when people post them on sites like this or when they concern me personally but I'm not out to blindly attack the Donald. I thought he was a total piece of shit long before he had any political aspirations so I'm not just bandwagoning here. Even if I wanted to look at anything he does in a positive light his attitude and mannerisms make it impossible. Even if he single handedly federally legalized pot I'd still hate the bastard.

edi: @ konj, page break

Also, sorry I don't like to get worked up but something about that man really grinds my gears


First off, page break??
Second, I'm not saying you at all, but look at what you said, 'I notice things when people post them on sites like this or when they concern me personally but I'm not out to blindly attack the Donald.' Where do you think other people get the information? Everything on the internet about the man is basically a fourth degree source because they hide so much fucking information from the public.
I hate the man also, but like, I see the game the media is playing at. They tell the whole world to fear everything, they just want people to be in fear. What's the best way to rule a country with too many people? Scare them all, instill fear as a government and you have a blindly obeying public eye.

I'm not trying to say the media will cause world war three or an armageddon, I'm just saying there's always more than one side to everything, and the media only ever portrays that one side. Imagine the news in Louisiana and Texas, it probably makes him sound like a god. The media only talks about one side, uses propaganda, tricks people. It's not really the news, more like a brainwashing program.
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wether its illegal or legal I'm still smoking the shit


Pretty much this. People are gonna do what they do, myself included. I got by just fine in the many years it wasn't legal, and I'll get by just fine in the future regardless of what the law is. If a legal business won't allow me the convenience of buying something I want; someone else will.
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uncletim wrote:

Well so much for Trump respecting state rights

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-marijuana-20170223-story.html

even though it's generating 100s of millions of dollars in tax revenuers and drug crimes in the states that have legalized marijuana as voted on by the people of those states.

None of this matters to Trump who does not respect state rights


You seem to have forgotten that despite the "legalization" of marijuana, it is still illegal to possess and use as a Schedule 1 controlled substance under the Controlled Substance Act and other statutes. Federal laws and regulations supersede contradicting state and local analogues under Article VI of the Constitution, aka the Federal Supremacy Clause. This has been the law of the land since the inception of the Republic, so "state rights" [sic] don't come into play here. Any arguments to the contrary not withstanding, the 10th Amendment is practically dead from a legal standpoint so don't even go there, not that I like it either. If nothing else, any vestige of a justification for application of the 10th Amendment here is meaningless due to the General Welfare and probably the Commerce Clause in addition to the aforementioned Federal Supremacy Clause.

In addition to your ersatz Constitutional argument, I'd like to point out that the Attorney General (and by extension the Justice Department) are charged with upholding the law of the land and prosecuting those who disobey it. "Prosecutorial discretion" as it is sometimes known only enables the AG and his surrogates to prioritize which cases to try in the courts based on certain criteria which notably don't include the Administration's dislike of certain laws or legal principles or consideration for the popularity of laws with the people.

That being said, I am all for the repeal of any and all restrictions for the use of currently illicit drugs even though I have no inclination to use them myself.
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Why does Donald Trump hate Groot?
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Tater420 wrote:

wether its illegal or legal I'm still smoking the shit


Pretty much this. People are gonna do what they do, myself included. I got by just fine in the many years it wasn't legal, and I'll get by just fine in the future regardless of what the law is. If a legal business won't allow me the convenience of buying something I want; someone else will.



Yea, few years ago when Pot became legal in one state, I told my Nephew about this since he is into pot big time lol. He told me it doesn't matter to him if they legalize it or not.. What he saying is he'll still smoke them even if it still illegal, or will be legal completely in all states.

So his head will be in smoke of cloud and not knowing what going on if all states finally legalized it, or Federal Law will enforce the law by start jailing people smoking out in the public and shut down the shop.



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Dude weed lmao
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the world needs to focus on real drug problems
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-39040176
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How the war on drugs was the most massive failure of all times
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJUXLqNHCaI
Posted 2/25/17
Smoked it in the past i can live without it so no big deal
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Don't smoke, don't care
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I live in state where it is legal....have not seen any changes and they just raised our taxes?????? Where does the drug tax money go? Not to mention we have to pay here in order to ride a school bus to school! They also raised the price for all our state parks?
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