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Posted 2/26/17 , edited 2/26/17
They should go by something similar to Olympic regs...You know those ones that use HORMONAL STATUS and not birth certificate to place many people in the correct league. It would help categorize intersex folks too.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/jan/25/ioc-rules-transgender-athletes-can-take-part-in-olympics-without-surgery

IE: Olympics state that a MAAB (male assigned at birth) can compete in female leagues after 2 years of male-to-female hrt (hormone replacement therapy). The reasoning behind this is that after extended hrt, any major muscle differences are negligible, only thing left is skeletal, but considering some FAAB people can get male skeletal types due to genetic predisposition and pcos and stuff, this isn't much of an issue.

Reading that article, it sounds like HRT should be considered more of a factor for FAAB people (unless the content in that article is out of date). They should BE REQUIRED to go into men's league after like 3-6 months or so (testosterone effects are more difficult to remove than add, hence disqualification from female league should be far quicker than qualification for MAAB people for female league).
Posted 2/26/17

PeripheralVisionary wrote:


Though honestly? I rather would not see gender divisions in most sports.


That would destroy the careers of female athletes since they can't compete. Unless they have a genetic deformity like that Semenya person.
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no matter which section they (transgender people) compete in (male or female) - people will still complain about it, that's pretty much guaranteed.

edit: removed "choose", since they don't really have a choice
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no matter which section they (transgender people) compete in (male or female) - people will still complain about it, that's pretty much guaranteed.

edit: removed "choose", since they don't really have a choice


From what I understand no matter what trans people do in general they'll be met with people pushing them back.
Posted 2/26/17
ok just for laughs but i thinking about Jim Carrey for some reason

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>> My opinion on this topic people can due whatever they want to their bodies am I going to agree with it
is a whole other topic.
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redokami wrote:

[But the article you linked states the person in question was born female and competed in female wrestling. If they want to make testosterone a banned substance than sure I can see the point. Otherwise not sure what the point is.


Well, it was all those years for the Russian Olympic Team...
Posted 2/26/17 , edited 2/26/17
If steroids are being used, I disagree with him/her competing with women, on the grounds that steroid use results in a call for the disqualification of non-transgender women who are caught. I ask for consistency.
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Transgender boys and men should compete in men's events, transgender women and girls should compete in women's events.
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BlueOni wrote:

Transgender boys and men should compete in men's events, transgender women and girls should compete in women's events.

But the trans 'women' would have a massive advantage in that case. And the trans 'men' would be severely disadvantaged. Unless they dope like crazy, and even then a woman doping vs a man doping in a test of strength... I'd put my money on the man.

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Doping is doping, doesn't matter what you're doing it for
I'd like to see how she'd fair against the boys team going all out


That's pretty much how I see it.

Not that I care, I think it's pretty funny people are so worked up about this. School sports: SERIOUS BUSINESS (especially in Texas)
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Amyas_Leigh wrote:

But the trans 'women' would have a massive advantage in that case. And the trans 'men' would be severely disadvantaged. Unless they dope like crazy, and even then a woman doping vs a man doping in a test of strength... I'd put my money on the man.


For one thing, transgender athletes represent a relatively small proportion of an already relatively small population, so we're not exactly talking about something that every secondary school, university, and professional league is going to have to worry about all the time. For another, significant factors such as socioeconomic status and geography are not standard between all athletes even within a given state/province, let alone at the national or international scale. The playing field isn't level as is.
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Posted 2/26/17
this is all very ridiculous
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BlueOni wrote:



For one thing, transgender athletes represent a relatively small proportion of an already relatively small population, so we're not exactly talking about something that every secondary school, university, and professional league is going to have to worry about all the time. For another, significant factors such as socioeconomic status and geography are not standard between all athletes even within a given state/province, let alone at the national or international scale. The playing field isn't level as is.


It doesn't matter how few there are, its not fair to the other players. Also you just can't equate the disadvantages/advantages of being unfit or fit (supposedly due to socioeconomic status) to male/female body differences.

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Posted 2/26/17 , edited 2/26/17
This is, quite literally, insane. GID is a medically recognized mental disorder. http://apps.who.int/classifications/icd10/browse/2016/en#/F64

A desire to live and be accepted as a member of the opposite sex, usually accompanied by a sense of discomfort with, or inappropriateness of, one's anatomic sex, and a wish to have surgery and hormonal treatment to make one's body as congruent as possible with one's preferred sex.

Most of the time, it is managed with talk therapy. We need to stop encouraging society to, quite literally, embrace insanity and instead work on better cures to help these people who suffer this disorder.

There really is no such thing as a "transgender boy". That's just a short, fancy way of saying "Mentally ill girl posing as a male".
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Posted 2/26/17

TheAngryLittleAlchemist wrote:

Lmao did you even read your own article before posting this?

It's a girl who wants to be a boy, competing against other girls.


The real answer is "no, I did not but I'll try to save face by making up shit because I refuse to admit that."
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