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Posted 2/26/17 , edited 2/26/17
I'm already seeing the effects. Youtube, and other sites are getting throttled. Youtube is buffering, and downloads that would have been done in a couple of hours is taking days. I'm paying for 6K download speeds, but am only getting 1.5K download speeds.

Anyone else seeing this?
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No
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Talk to your ISP. To my knowledge there have been no changes in the law as of yet that would result in such changes.
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Im a programmer at one of the largest web hosting companies in the nation and I'm of the opinion that "Net Neutrality" is a bunch of BS. Prioritizing traffic has always been part of networking. Not only does this "net neutrality" farce hurt technology and innovation but it's anything but neutral. The name is Orwellian, to be sure
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Yea, my friend tried to convince me that the law was being changed but all I can find on it amounts to nothing more than either misinterpretation or speculation.
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karatecowboy wrote:

Im a programmer at one of the largest web hosting companies in the nation and I'm of the opinion that "Net Neutrality" is a bunch of BS. Prioritizing traffic has always been part of networking. Not only does this "net neutrality" farce hurt technology and innovation but it's anything but neutral. The name is Orwellian, to be sure


Yeah, it's an integral part of networking. The problem is when ISPs start prioritizing only the traffic they're being paid to. Doubt Crunchyroll has enough money to grease all these palms so they don't get throttled.
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clusters wrote:


karatecowboy wrote:

Im a programmer at one of the largest web hosting companies in the nation and I'm of the opinion that "Net Neutrality" is a bunch of BS. Prioritizing traffic has always been part of networking. Not only does this "net neutrality" farce hurt technology and innovation but it's anything but neutral. The name is Orwellian, to be sure


Yeah, it's an integral part of networking. The problem is when ISPs start prioritizing only the traffic they're being paid to. Doubt Crunchyroll has enough money to grease all these palms so they don't get throttled.


Pretty much this. It's not so much a case of priortization and routing on a network level as it is an issue of being able to pay for prioritazation (or to have to pay so as not to be throttled) with those costs shifted down to the customer.

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Yeah, it's an integral part of networking. The problem is when ISPs start prioritizing only the traffic they're being paid to. Doubt Crunchyroll has enough money to grease all these palms so they don't get throttled.


I think that's a lot of fear-mongering. It's like saying the Post Office shouldn't be allowed to offer priority shipping, because Amazon could afford it but not your local business. Not reality.

You're fixing something that's not broken; the government loves this because fixing not-broken things allows the government to grab more power, usually breaking other things in the process.
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Never underestimate corporate greed.
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clusters wrote:

Never underestimate corporate greed.


Never underestimate government lust for power.

It's governments, not corporations, that have caused the most suffering and tyranny throughout history.

Again: you're trying to fix something that's not broken.

Never forget that governments are corporations with a built-in monopoly and without bottom-line fiscal accountability. Crappy governments don't dissolve when people decide to stop paying them (taxes) because they're getting crappy service. No corporation could run like our federal government -- a $20,000,000,000,000 + debt, and still stay in business. Corporations have more accountability that would cause them to go under.

Government = Corporation + Monopoly - Fiscal Accountability + Virtual Immortality
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But with so many politicians bought and paid for there really isn't much of a difference.

Not broken yet.
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There is no net neutrality LAW. That's the problem when you use regulations by agencies instead of laws by congress. The problem with net neutrality regs in US is that it is making the addition of new bandwidth unprofitable, putting US consumers further behind other countries.
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I'm already seeing the effects.


No you aren't, and that's an absurd conclusion to jump to just because your connection is running slow.
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Posted 2/26/17 , edited 2/27/17

karatecowboy wrote:

Again: you're trying to fix something that's not broken.


More like, by trying to remove net neutrality, you are trying to break something that isn't broken. Generally, "net neutrality" doesn't change the way things work now, it prevents them from changing (for the worse) in the future.
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1. We ALREADY pay for tiered speeds, there is no need to charge an arbitrary fee for a service to not get throttled on either end. If they are having problems they either need to stop overselling their bandwidth or they need to actually reinvest in the infrastructure. How about they start by not pocketing and actually using those government subsidies that were specifically meant for building out fiber?

2. Data is NOT a finite resource. Data caps make no logical sense unless they are overselling their bandwidth. Would you look at that? It has the same solution as the last problem!

3. QoS and other prioritization should be up to the end users.

Let's stop making crappy nonequivalent analogies, those serve only as traps to manipulate people (like judges who have no idea what the hell these tech companies are talking about - example: they tried comparing data to Oreo cookies).
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