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http://en.mercopress.com/2017/02/25/pope-francis-defends-indigenous-peoples-rights-to-their-ancestral-lands




Pope Francis insisted that indigenous groups must give prior consent to any economic activity affecting their ancestral lands, a view that conflict with the Trump administration, which is pushing to build a US$3.8bn oil pipeline over opposition from American Indians.

Francis met with representatives of indigenous peoples attending a U.N. agricultural meeting and said the key issue facing them is how to reconcile the right to economic development with protecting their cultures and territories.

“In this regard, the right to prior and informed consent should always prevail,” he said. “Only then is it possible to guarantee peaceful cooperation between governing authorities and indigenous peoples, overcoming confrontation and conflict.”



as much as im against things invading sacred land and pollution and all that
wasn't there already a open meeting before it had started where they could have come and opposed the plan? but they didn't?? then when it started that's whenthey started protesting?

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I think he is talking about working towards coexisting with both maintaining the ancestral lands and having the pipeline put in. He is asking for everyone's participation at a national level not just locally.
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Instead of a pipeline I propose we build a popeline. Like a really long tube that can send the pope to places really quickly. "Oh man, I wish the pope were here right now"...*SHOOOOM* he then proceeds to save everyone by casting holy (the pope class learns holy, right?)
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from my understanding its not the pipelines themselves its the locations that have a lot of the people upset if they redirected it likely wouldn't have so much protest against them from my understanding off the situation which i don't think is too much ask
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from my understanding its not the pipelines themselves its the locations that have a lot of the people upset if they redirected it likely wouldn't have so much protest against them from my understanding off the situation which i don't think is too much ask


They already built most of the pipeline without resolving this issue first, so now it's not economical to change course. Funny how that worked out.
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Maybe he should redistribute the Vatican gold for reparations for what Catholics did to native peoples.
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Turns out those protesters polluted and left the environment worse off than the pipe line installers would. Trash all over those camps that accumulated for months and in the end the natives' allies are worse than the pipe line company. What should've happened was that representatives from the tribes could have overseen the operations and point things out when needed. Alas, it's irony at its finest.
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as much as im against things invading sacred land and pollution and all that
wasn't there already a open meeting before it had started where they could have come and opposed the plan? but they didn't?? then when it started that's whenthey started protesting?


No, they opposed it from the get go and there was opposition at every meeting that was held ( not just from the tribes but also from farmers/ranchers in the area ). The state basically railroaded the thing through. The pipeline did not originally go through tribal lands. It was re-routed after ( white ) residents in the Bismark area opposed it based on concerns about drinking water pollution. Leading to it being moved 20+ miles south into tribal lands instead.

It's also probably noteworthy that the company that's suppose to operate the pipeline has the worst safety record in the country in terms of pipeline spills. >.>

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Amyas_Leigh wrote:

Maybe he should redistribute the Vatican gold for reparations for what Catholics did to native peoples.


maybe the european nations should do the same, since they did most of the "work"

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maybe the european nations should do the same, since they did most of the "work"



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runec wrote:


. The pipeline did not originally go through tribal lands.

It doesn't go through tribal lands now


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Amyas_Leigh wrote:
It doesn't go through tribal lands now


Maybe read up on this topic a bit more than just pasting the map provided by the company building the pipeline itself. -.-

This whole area has like 100 years of the US government signing treaties with then dicking over the local tribes before the ink was dry.
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runec wrote:

Maybe read up on this topic a bit more than just pasting the map provided by the company building the pipeline itself. -.-

This whole area has like 100 years of the US government signing treaties with then dicking over the local tribes before the ink was dry.


Yeah well, they have casinos now
Plus the government dicks everyone over. We're talking about the infrastructure and needs of the world's greatest super power vs the wants of what, a few thousand?
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The Pope knows what's up.
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Amyas_Leigh wrote:


runec wrote:

Maybe read up on this topic a bit more than just pasting the map provided by the company building the pipeline itself. -.-

This whole area has like 100 years of the US government signing treaties with then dicking over the local tribes before the ink was dry.


Yeah well, they have casinos now
Plus the government dicks everyone over. We're talking about the infrastructure and needs of the world's greatest super power vs the wants of what, a few thousand?



as much as it seems assholey, it is true
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