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Posted 2/28/17 , edited 2/28/17

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As far as the rich and taxing goes; I'm not a fan of tax brackets to be honest. But the fact remains that billionaires would simply relocate if they are taxed too high and then we don't get their income at all in society. I think though that perhaps taxing based on incomes until around 300,000 dollars a year and than reversing the trend inwards afterwards to emulate the trend upwards on the lower half of the income graph would be a better solution.

Regardless, rich people are good and they are bad. Like anywhere really.


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I personally support capitalism. It's the reason we have nice shit, I like nice shit.


I mean we will evolve from it one day and find ways to stop the 1% from existing and make a more fair society but till then capitalism is the best we got

Personally i prefer a socialised version with tax brackets but that is not without it's own problems also.


People are selfish, and selfishness isn't bad. While fairness sounds nice on paper, it doesn't really work.

Of course capitalism isn't perfect but it is the best we got, I agree.

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Posted 2/28/17

Roboteki wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


Roboteki wrote:


mxdan wrote:

As far as the rich and taxing goes; I'm not a fan of tax brackets to be honest. But the fact remains that billionaires would simply relocate if they are taxed too high and then we don't get their income at all in society. I think though that perhaps taxing based on incomes until around 300,000 dollars a year and than reversing the trend inwards afterwards to emulate the trend upwards on the lower half of the income graph would be a better solution.

Regardless, rich people are good and they are bad. Like anywhere really.


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I personally support capitalism. It's the reason we have nice shit, I like nice shit.


I mean we will evolve from it one day and find ways to stop the 1% from existing and make a more fair society but till then capitalism is the best we got

Personally i prefer a socialised version with tax brackets but that is not without it's own problems also.


People are selfish, and selfishness isn't bad. While fairness sounds nice on paper, it doesn't really work.

Of course capitalism isn't perfect but it is the best we got.


selfishness isn't bad that's true but fairness can work and is why things like universal healthcare work or social systems.
It isn't fullproof and there are issues but all we can do is improve upon them.

One day i hope to see the 1% become a thing of the past but humans have a long way to go.



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Posted 2/28/17
Depends on if they earned it or if it was given to them
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If the board game "The Game of Life" has taught us anything, it's that having the most money means you win at life. If the "morbidly rich" didn't have their tremendous wealth, how would we know how much better they are than the rest of us. Everyone knows that money is the most important thing in the world.
Posted 2/28/17
I'm mostly indifferent.

Those who are going to the moon are those who had enough to do so, pretty simple. As usual, it's a bit difficult because I wouldn't mind going to the moon myself (lol..) - but, to make such things accessible to the general public for a reasonable fee would require us to have more evolved technology that would make it cheaper and more practical. It's kind of how it goes for a lot of things, though? People get on me for buying expensive things - I have the money to do so, so why not? I'm sure that mentality extends beyond those with far more money than I have, that's for sure. Those two going to the Moon is really no different (relatively speaking) than you or I going on a vacation that costs us $1,500-2,000 altogether. It's a pretty penny but it's a "reasonable range" for us to save up to in order to take said vacation.
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Pareto Principle in action and capitalisms inherent ability to create a disparity of wealth. No issue with the rich even if they didn't earn it.

Fun fact for everyone: Socialism and Communism are NOT the same thing. The UK (well until the Tories got in), Ireland, Denmark, Finland, Netherlands, Canada, Belgium, New Zealand etc are Socialist. Public services, subsidised health care, welfare etc are socialist concepts. Socialism requires a capitalist society as a foundation, communism does not. Even in a true socialist society there will still be rich and poor, the difference is that the poor will not unduly suffer for it.
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Posted 2/28/17
I do not really care. Some are pretty shady, I admit. Others are philanthropic, like the guy who is bringing hockey to Las Vegas as his dream. I think in that case, it is great they are doing what they want. It is not exactly quite a zero sums game to my knowledge.
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Posted 2/28/17 , edited 2/28/17

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......like the two people taking a joy ride to the moon on that 2018 SpaceX mission, for example.

I'm not a commie and I don't want those people to "redistribute their wealth" or whatever but I STILL get put off by the staggering gold mounts of the 1%.



...what's wrong with some rich idiots taking a trip to the moon? It will probably costs *billions*, and that money doesn't disappear when they spend it. It will be, funny enough, redistributed to engineers and rocket scientists and rocket engine makers and chemists distilling fuels, and transport drivers moving the parts from factory to assembly line to launch pad; to ground control staff and machinists... and from them, onward through their spending to whoever provides the services they want. And in the process, it will create impetus to create (or preserve) the infrastructure and institutional knowledge for future spaceflight endeavors. Even if the rich joyriders take no scientific instrumentation and do no experimentation or sample-taking, it is useful to science in that regard.

The notion that the money simply disappears when some rich guy spends it on something extravagant is ridiculous. For that matter, the idea that rich people are just "hoarding" the money away from everyone else is a little ridiculous. They're not keeping the money stuffed under their mattress; no one has a Scrooge McDuck vault filled with cash- they have invested it. That money is invested and working, every day, to fund the research and development and tooling and production of major businesses and corporations that employ many people.
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I hate those 1 percenters. We should have the government take their money using taxes, so they can shuffle it through special interests and pet projects over to the 0.1 percenters.
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I've got nothing against them. Their families spent put in a lot of work and thought to raise that money in order for the rest of their family to live easy lives. There is nothing wrong with thinking ahead. Of course if they burn money in front of a homeless person or anything else that degrades other people, then I will have a problem with them, but that's because they are a bad person and being a bad person isn't determined by your income.


^^^^all this!

Posted 2/28/17
Indifferent. I really don't think about them.
Posted 2/28/17

nanikore2 wrote:

......like the two people taking a joy ride to the moon on that 2018 SpaceX mission, for example.

I'm not a commie and I don't want those people to "redistribute their wealth" or whatever but I STILL get put off by the staggering gold mounts of the 1%.



Elon Musk is part of the 1% and he made SpaceX and Tesla Motors, I really admire the dude and I like a few famous celebrities.

So what I think of rich peeps, I like a few, don't care about the rest.
Posted 2/28/17
I'd take their money if I could.
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Posted 2/28/17 , edited 2/28/17

Ryulightorb wrote:


I mean we will evolve from it one day and find ways to stop the 1% from existing and make a more fair society but till then capitalism is the best we got

Personally i prefer a socialised version with tax brackets but that is not without it's own problems also.


True fact: if your household makes more than $33,000 annually then you are part of the Global 1%. It's really hypocritical when people talk only about the US 1%, as if there weren't, quite literally, billions of people out there who would gladly trade place with the complainers.

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Posted 2/28/17
Good for them for getting to the point of being obscenely rich I guess? If I don't know them personally and they aren't doing something to screw other people over, I don't see the point in worrying about them.
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