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Posted 2/28/17
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18787545/mark-ingram-new-orleans-saints-teammates-denied-entry-london-club-being-too-urban

That's one I've never heard as an American. Any of you Brits know what this is about?
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Posted 2/28/17 , edited 2/28/17

their policy not to admit all-male groups.


We would not dismiss anyone as "too urban" and we would not turn anyone away on the basis of their ethnicity, sexuality or any other characteristic -- other than those expressed in our door policy: As an exclusive members club, we cannot guarantee entry to anyone and full discretion always lies with the door.


"... While we sympathise with Mark and his friends, we fully support our employees' right to challenge groups that do not adhere to our door policy. Admitting an all-male group goes against our policy and is clearly stated on Facebook and on all reservation confirmation emails."

I wonder why even a 'diverse' hipster bar in multikulty London would have problems admitting all male groups?
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Does "urban" have a connotation in England that we're not picking up, out here in the States? "Sorry lads, can't let you in on account of you're "too urban." Does that mean something we didn't get?

When I first read that, I was thinking, the guys went to a very rural place, far from the big cities, and they was turned away by country bumpkins, because they were from the big city. "We don't take kindly to city folk and their high-falutin' ways. Now, be gone!"
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That's rather odd. "I need to go ask a friend from the UK" odd. I can't picture it having the same connotation as it does state side.
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not at all surprised Uk has K.K.K growing.



KKK plans 'infiltration' of the UK

The Ku Klux Klan could be recruiting in Maesteg.
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Posted 2/28/17 , edited 2/28/17

DjBlow wrote:

not at all surprised Uk has K.K.K growing.



KKK plans 'infiltration' of the UK

The Ku Klux Klan could be recruiting in Maesteg.

Pretty sure a nightclub that caters to celebrities in Londinistan would not hire 'KKK' types.

"London's most A-list club and decadent circus,"

Sounds pretty degenerate to me.
Edit: I don't get where you think the KKK can 'plan' to infiltrate anything
The KKK in the UK sound like larping ameriboos
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UK compatriot informs me that "urban" is a look/fashion style and if you walk into a store over there you'll see "urban" sections. It's like saying "casual" or "street" fashion.

Cirque le Soir does indeed have a strict dress code and it prohibits athletic/sports wear, hats, jerseys, sneakers, etc or they'll turn you away at the door. You're suppose to dress up for the place in other words. It also looks like the place is super notorious for turning people away at the door if they aren't dressed up to standard or they have more important guests inside that you aren't in the same league as.

TL;DR: Looks like they showed up at a super haughty club notorious for being anal about it's clientele and it turned out they were super haughty and anal.
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UK compatriot informs me that "urban" is a look/fashion style and if you walk into a store over there you'll see "urban" sections. It's like saying "casual" or "street" fashion.

Cirque le Soir does indeed have a strict dress code and it prohibits athletic/sports wear, hats, jerseys, sneakers, etc or they'll turn you away at the door. You're suppose to dress up for the place in other words. It also looks like the place is super notorious for turning people away at the door if they aren't dressed up to standard or they have more important guests inside that you aren't in the same league as.

TL;DR: Looks like they showed up at a super haughty club notorious for being anal about it's clientele and it turned out they were super haughty and anal.


That's not the excuse the managers of the place used though. They didn't say anything about a dress code. They said it was 'cause they was all dudes. "You got to bring women with you..." These guy's wives and girlfriends are in the U.S. raising the kids, and going to work, or buying shoes.

Or, if the wives and girlfriends came with, then their out having a girl's night out.

Excluding a group with reservations, because they was all guys, is still a very weak justification, to me. Very weak.
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That's not the excuse the managers of the place used though. They didn't say anything about a dress code. They said it was 'cause they was all dudes. "You got to bring women with you..." These guy's wives and girlfriends are in the U.S. raising the kids, and going to work, or buying shoes.

Or, if the wives and girlfriends came with, then their out having a girl's night out.

Excluding a group with reservations, because they was all guys, is still a very weak justification, to me. Very weak.


"No all guy groups" is a super common policy in clubs...

PS: What happened to your grammar? Are you trying to sound "urban" now too? xD
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That's not the excuse the managers of the place used though. They didn't say anything about a dress code. They said it was 'cause they was all dudes. "You got to bring women with you..." These guy's wives and girlfriends are in the U.S. raising the kids, and going to work, or buying shoes.

Or, if the wives and girlfriends came with, then their out having a girl's night out.

Excluding a group with reservations, because they was all guys, is still a very weak justification, to me. Very weak.


I was addressing the "too urban" part and what I read up on the place's reputation in that regard. As for the "all dude's" part that's not that uncommon with clubs like this. This one in particular is really high end "exclusive". Which is basically code for "We make sure to control how important our clientele is and looks to maintain our haughty image".

This isn't the type of place that is interested in how hard your wives and girlfriends are working back home. Nor how hard you yourself are working. It's interested in how you look and how important you are and not much else.
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It's common for them to have dress codes certain foot wear in particular I don't really frequent clubs due to a dislike of crowds and stuff and the waste in money but it's also common for them to want more women than men because that brings more customers and money. The majority of people tend to prefer to be around women along with incentives such as deals (such as cheaper alcohol) for women to encourage them in clubs. High standards to enter is common.

Also here in the UK no one really cares about American Football players so would just look like a bunch of guys who don't meet the standard trying to get into a place which would damage it's reputation and exclusiveness. It's all about feeling special
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I expect that kind of shit in rural parts but London? That's weird.
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MysticGon wrote:

I expect that kind of shit in rural parts but London? That's weird.


Why would you expect that in rural parts more so than London?? My experience is that rural areas have always been more welcoming than big cities.
Posted 2/28/17 , edited 2/28/17
They weren't following the dress code and were all men. While I raise an eyebrow at the "all men" part, some Brits who've talked about it have mentioned there being a problem with groups of male thugs wearing casual clothing and sneakers, which may have connection to it. Either way, the club is one of those posh "well to do" places, so snobbery is to be expected. Anyway; the football players brushed it off and had a grand time elsewhere, so it ended well. I'm not interested in raising a stink over something that the perceived "victims" don't think is a big deal.
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Posted 2/28/17

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MysticGon wrote:

I expect that kind of shit in rural parts but London? That's weird.


Why would you expect that in rural parts more so than London?? My experience is that rural areas have always been more welcoming than big cities.


Greater diversity.
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