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6) Sweden has the highest murder rate in all of Europe, and the highest rape crimes rate in all of the world


You've made me curious. Is this actually true? Here's what I've found.

Murder Rate:

note: Figures used are from United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime (UNODC)

Sweden's murder rate is 0.9 per 100,000.

How does this compare to other European countries? Well you have Russia in Eastern Europe at 9.3, Ukraine at 4.3, Latvia at 3.9, Finland at 1.6, the UK at 0.9, Greece at 1.1, Austria at 0.5, etc. Overall, Sweden seems to fall at the lower end with the UK, Germany and Italy and they certainly do not have the highest murder rate in all of Europe. That honor goes to Russia (or if you exclude Russia, Lithuania at 5.5).

And out of curiosity, how does the USA hold up? Well they have a rate of 3.9/100,000. This is clearly significantly higher than what we see in Sweden, so in that regard, yeah, I'd love to face what Sweden has now.

Rape Crime Rate:

This one is a lot more difficult, so first I will address the statement without context. Is their "rape rate" the highest in the world? From the data I've found, South Africa and Botswana have them handily beaten, so no.

But what exactly does that mean? Well, without the proper context, not much. One of the best ways to highlight this is by actually looking at Sweden's data. Like the US, they have data on both reported rapes (aka "rape crime rate") and victimizations. Since 2006, the "rape crime rate" in Sweden has jumped significantly, but victimizations haven't really changed. There are a lot of reasons for this and I wont go into it in too much detail, but essentially there are two many points: One is that Sweden does more to encourage reporting of rape crimes and Two is that Sweden uses very broad definitions compared to a lot of other places. Here is a blurb from Sweden's official crime statistic site:

"In the Swedish system, individual reports regarding a great number of offences may affect and give rise to variations in the statistic. For instance, when a single case is reported that turns out to involve hundreds or even thousands of instances of offences committed against an individual over the course of many years, every single incident is recorded as an offence in the year it was reported. It is also important to remember that non-reporting is particularly extensive for sex offences and changes in the inclination to report can affect the number of rapes in the statistic."

So, is this a fair comparison?:

"There are no international standards for how crime statistics should be produced and presented and this makes international comparisons difficult. Keep in mind that comparisons between countries on the basis of crime statistics require caution since such statistics are produced differently in different countries. Criminal statistics do not provide a simple reflection of the level of crime in a given country. Criminal statistics are influenced by both legal and statistical factors, and by the extent to which crime is reported and registered. These factors can vary from one country to another. "
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From what I understand, Sweden reports each alleged rape as a separate charge/report, and the US for one, doesn't. If a woman came forward and accused a man of raping her three times, this would be considered a single report/charge in the United States. In contrast, Swedish police would consider it to be three simultaneous reports/charges. So it stands to reason the number would be significantly higher in Sweden at first glance.

edit: Should have read Sundin's post more thoroughly, he already said this.
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Look At What Happened Last Night In Sweden!


it was supposedly "mostly cloudy with tempeature averaging 36 Fahrenheit"
i'm not sure this is newsworthy though.
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it was supposedly "mostly cloudy with tempeature averaging 36 Fahrenheit"
i'm not sure this is newsworthy though.


But what was the risk of precipitation? Clouds are just pouring over the border.

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