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Posted 2/28/17 , edited 2/28/17

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That rapists are convicted too infrequently or sentenced too lightly does not detract at all from what happened here. That's a separate issue.


That is correct, though I mentioned the punishment rapists specifically to detract from the punishment of this crime itself. Of course, maybe I am being paranoid about the court of public opinion. It appears that the mother have forgiven them, for one. In any case, I am advocating moral consistency and fairness.
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That is correct, though I mentioned the punishment rapists specifically to detract from the punishment of this crime itself. Of course, maybe I am being paranoid about the court of public opinion. It appears that the mother have forgiven them, for one. In any case, I am advocating moral consistency and fairness.


Meh I think every crime should be punished as harshly as the laws of a particular country should allow. Up to the death penalty in many cases in my opinion. Criminals are the lowest form of life , people who refuse to follow the rules and insist their needs and desires are worth the suffering of others have no right to kindness, forgiveness, nor leniency. As they cause suffering so to should they suffer till their last breath.
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Threatening death, while holding a loaded weapon deserves the sentence they got. However, I agree with the sentiment that rape is not more seriously sentenced.
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At first I thought 15-20 years seemed unusually excessive for what I at first thought was just petty harassment. Then I got to this part, and suddenly it all made a lot more sense.


Torres also threatened to kill the people at the party with a shotgun Norton had loaded and retrieved from his truck, the district attorney’s office said in a statement on Facebook.


Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.


well, apparently there was a guy that got 50 years for stealing $35 worth of ribs
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Threatening death, while holding a loaded weapon deserves the sentence they got. However, I agree with the sentiment that rape is not more seriously sentenced.


I'm going to have to disagree on that. Disgusting though it may be, it was unconsummated assault. As in, they made threats, and then did not actually follow up on the threats.

Actual killers, who have actually killed people frequently get off with half that sentence. The sentencing seems politically motivated.
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Deja vu, I just came back from reading an article about Japanese nationalists of Zaitokukai protesting at a elementary school, calling the kids there "cockroaches and children of spies"

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Actual killers, who have actually killed people frequently get off with half that sentence. The sentencing seems politically motivated.


Um, what? Are you kidding me? Most of the murder cases that I've read about where the person is convicted and sent to jail, the minimum sentence that I've ever seen is 20 years, without parole. Most of them are 30 year or more sentences without parole. Show me where you've read about these cases where murderers got less jail time than 20 years for being convicted for murder, because that doesn't sound right to me.
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Um, what? Are you kidding me? Most of the murder cases that I've read about where the person is convicted and sent to jail, the minimum sentence that I've ever seen is 20 years, without parole. Most of them are 30 year or more sentences without parole. Show me where you've read about these cases where murderers got less jail time than 20 years for being convicted for murder, because that doesn't sound right to me.


Actually mate the drunk driver who killed my fiance only got 15 years. And he didn't even end up serving 10 years. He was released on parole seven months ago for fucking good behaviour. I like to know where you live that ensure murderers serve the sentence they're suppose to cause it doesn't happen in Canada.
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Um, what? Are you kidding me? Most of the murder cases that I've read about where the person is convicted and sent to jail, the minimum sentence that I've ever seen is 20 years, without parole. Most of them are 30 year or more sentences without parole. Show me where you've read about these cases where murderers got less jail time than 20 years for being convicted for murder, because that doesn't sound right to me.


Actually mate the drunk driver who killed my fiance only got 15 years. And he didn't even end up serving 10 years. He was released on parole seven months ago for fucking good behaviour. I like to know where you live that ensure murderers serve the sentence they're suppose to cause it doesn't happen in Canada.


Well, I certainly don't agree with that sentence and believe that drunk drivers who kill people should get just as much jail time as someone who plans to and does murder someone. While they may not have planned to kill someone, they did make the choice to get behind the wheel while intoxicated and put people's lives in danger. I'm really sorry that that happened to you, and that sucks and is stupid that he was able to get out of jail early, because he shouldn't have been able to in my opinion. And you know where I live, silly, if you read my profile. I live in Vermont in the U.S.. I have heard of several drunk driving cases like yours down here too though, but Vermont is also one of the more tougher states on things like that for sentencing. I was more talking about the actual murder cases where someone planned on killing someone or did so on purpose though.
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Well, I certainly don't agree with that sentence and believe that drunk drivers who kill people should get just as much jail time as someone who plans to and does murder someone. While they may not have planned to kill someone, they did make the choice to get behind the wheel while intoxicated and put people's lives in danger. I'm really sorry that that happened to you, and that sucks and is stupid that he was able to get out of jail early, because he shouldn't have been able to in my opinion. And you know where I live, silly, if you read my profile. I live in Vermont in the U.S.. I have heard of several drunk driving cases like yours down here too though, but Vermont is also one of the more tougher states on things like that for sentencing. I was more talking about the actual murder cases where someone planned on killing someone or did so on purpose though.


And I am just saying there is a metric ton of cases where murderers of all stripes got off easy or did not end up serving their full sentence . We live in a world that pretends stupidity, negligence and incompetence are paraded around as moral equality and justice. That the courts of law are to be no more trusted to deal out true justice then a pitchfork and torch bearing mob.

This I know from personal experience and I am not the only one with such a sad story to tell. There are countless more that can tell stories even more horrible then mine. So I am glad there is at least one judge out there willing to punish people as harshly as they deserve. One member of the court system that remembers what their job truly is.

Even if it is only bitch slapping a couple of useless white supremacists.
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15 and 25 years? It seems pretty clear that there is intent to make an example of the couple, to dissuade future harassment in the county, so they made sure to charge them about as heavy as is humanly possible.
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15 and 25 years? It seems pretty clear that there is intent to make an example of the couple, to dissuade future harassment in the county, so they made sure to charge them about as heavy as is humanly possible.


And yet there will be the useless bleeding hearts that will go blah blah unconstitutional blah blah immoral blah blah miscarriage of justice blah blah overbearing blah. Instead of allowing this to exist as a precedent so the court system can use to it to keep other human trash in line.
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outontheop wrote:
Actual killers, who have actually killed people frequently get off with half that sentence. The sentencing seems politically motivated.



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15 and 25 years? It seems pretty clear that there is intent to make an example of the couple, to dissuade future harassment in the county, so they made sure to charge them about as heavy as is humanly possible.


They'll be serving 13 and 6 respectively. Georgia has a pretty nuts anti-street gang / terrorism law they got caught under. Plus, these two declined a plea bargain unlike the other 2 that were charged with felonies. So they were already on the court's shit list.

Georgia's street gang law can add +3-15 years by itself and has been on the books since 98'. So I'm not sure this is politically motivated so much as just Georgia being Georgia. It's not exactly a state known for clemency and reasonable sentencing.

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Plus, these two declined a plea bargain unlike the other 2 that were charged with felonies. So they were already on the court's shit list.



I'd make some snark comment about their intelligence but considering shotguns and kids were involved I am guessing they weren't the brightest bunch to begin with. But hey maybe they'll make some nice friends in prison. I mean prisoners love people who endanger or hurt kids, plus there is bound to be a sizeable population of African Americans who will welcome them with open arms.

...I really hope the guards aren't stupid enough to release those facts to general population along with the couple.

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outontheop wrote:
Actual killers, who have actually killed people frequently get off with half that sentence. The sentencing seems politically motivated.



aeb0717 wrote:
15 and 25 years? It seems pretty clear that there is intent to make an example of the couple, to dissuade future harassment in the county, so they made sure to charge them about as heavy as is humanly possible.


They'll be serving 13 and 6 respectively. Georgia has a pretty nuts anti-street gang / terrorism law they got caught under. Plus, these two declined a plea bargain unlike the other 2 that were charged with felonies. So they were already on the court's shit list.

Georgia's street gang law can add +3-15 years by itself and has been on the books since 98'. So I'm not sure this is politically motivated so much as just Georgia being Georgia. It's not exactly a state known for clemency and reasonable sentencing.



That does make sense. I did not know how serious those charges were. I do not disagree with such a designation.
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