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I am not too sure. I assume this is about his statements about Americans? Ran is more known for his arrogance if anything, his racism isn't the most vocal part of him. Although I have to agree with Runec, Amyas_Leigh is so much worst as to post a picture contesting that blacks and whites are separate species, use of words like "Chimpout", and other things that are at least questionable. This may be based on a logical first time observation, but that sort of hypotheses is formed by children, and in this day of the internet, it is beyond inexcusable to not go to google scholar as an adult.

Though this does not excuse Ranwolf, at all. Both should be called out when needed.


Agreed, but I haven't had much interaction with Amyas; the sole notable one I can recall was in the recent racially motivated shooting thread; and in that case, despite using laughably blusterous language, his points were not racist, but rather about how one can best defend themselves from aggression (and his opinions on the... I guess "manliness" of people that don't do it his way?). In that thread, other than being unpleasant, he wasn't really wrong.

Ranwolf does make a lot of ultra-nationalist comments about Americans, yes, but he also extends his commentary into derogatory statements about whites/ "anglos" in general. There's a lot of crossover.
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:


I am not too sure. I assume this is about his statements about Americans? Ran is more known for his arrogance if anything, his racism isn't the most vocal part of him. Although I have to agree with Runec, Amyas_Leigh is so much worst as to post a picture contesting that blacks and whites are separate species, use of words like "Chimpout", and other things that are at least questionable. This may be based on a logical first time observation, but that sort of hypotheses is formed by children, and in this day of the internet, it is beyond inexcusable to not go to google scholar as an adult.

Though this does not excuse Ranwolf, at all. Both should be called out when needed.


Agreed, but I haven't had much interaction with Amyas; the sole notable one I can recall was in the recent racially motivated shooting thread; and in that case, despite using laughably blusterous language, his points were not racist, but rather about how one can best defend themselves from aggression (and his opinions on the... I guess "manliness" of people that don't do it his way"). In that thread, other than being unpleasant, he wasn't really wrong.

Ranwolf does make a lot of ultra-nationalist comments about Americans, yes, but he also extends his commentary into derogatory statements about whites/ "anglos" in general. There's a lot of crossover.


We should drop this though. Although I now remember those comments. I do not blame you.
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Meh He thinks I am a lying racist pig who supports the ideology of fascism or baby raping or something I don't know. He isn't worth the effort of me paying attention to him nor the ban telling him what I really think would get me.


No, I was just commenting on your racism.

...but now that you mention it, you were just advocating for the military to unconstitutionally abrogate and assume the authority of law enforcement despite explicit constitutional prohibitions against just that, so hey, if the shoe fits...
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but he also extends his commentary into derogatory statements about whites/ "anglos" in general. There's a lot of crossover.


I believe I may of asked this of you before ( note several fucking times actually in case your memory ain't working) . But I'll ask it again, exactly how is it derogatory to point out the Caucasians had a less then kind way of going about conquering North America. Or that the residential schools were crimes against humanity that went unpunished. Or the fact it took a couple of hundred years before my people were treated as more then third class citizens in our own homeland.

Ya may not like history mate but that doesn't make it any less true. Ya starting to sound like those holocaust deniers ya know.
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outontheop wrote:

but he also extends his commentary into derogatory statements about whites/ "anglos" in general. There's a lot of crossover.


I believe I may of asked this of you before ( note several fucking times actually in case your memory ain't working) . But I'll ask it again, exactly how is it derogatory to point out the Caucasians had a less then kind way of going about conquering North America. Or that the residential schools were crimes against humanity that went unpunished. Or the fact it took a couple of hundred years before my people were treated as more then third class citizens in our own homeland.

Ya may not like history mate but that doesn't make it any less true. Ya starting to sound like those holocaust deniers ya know.


Except that you have never stopped there; you extend beyond "this past action was bad" and well into "therefore, all persons of the same race and/ or nationality as those who committed the past act are subhuman" territory.

If you want, I can go quote mining through your old threads, but I suspect the worst offenses have already been cleaned up by mods.
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Except that you have never stopped there; you extend beyond "this past action was bad" and well into "therefore, all persons of the same race and/ or nationality as those who committed the past act are subhuman" territory.

If you want, I can go quote mining through your old threads, but I suspect the worst offenses have already been cleaned up by mods.


Ya know what you're absolutely right mate. I don't like Caucasians much, mainly due to the fact it's only been less then 60 years since the lot of visible minorities has improved to the point were all people are indeed created equal.

Which mean most of us in their late twenties and early thirties have parents or grandparents old enough to remember the not so nice times. And when it comes to crimes against humanity there are only three people, those that suffer, those that commit the crimes, and those that stood idly by. Which means all our parents and grandparents are either victims, murderers, rapists, thieves, or useless sacks of shits.

Being the criminals and the idle isn't exactly a proud legacy for the Caucasians . And I believe it's one they should be reminded of till the end of time. After all refuse to learn from history and you repeat it's mistakes.
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outontheop wrote:


Except that you have never stopped there; you extend beyond "this past action was bad" and well into "therefore, all persons of the same race and/ or nationality as those who committed the past act are subhuman" territory.

If you want, I can go quote mining through your old threads, but I suspect the worst offenses have already been cleaned up by mods.


Ya know what you're absolutely right mate. I don't like Caucasians much, mainly due to the fact it's only been less then 60 years since the lot of visible minorities has improved to the point were all people are indeed created equal.

Which mean most of us in their late twenties and early thirties have parents or grandparents old enough to remember the not so nice times. And when it comes to crimes against humanity there are only three people, those that suffer, those that commit the crimes, and those that stood idly by. Which means all our parents and grandparents are either victims, murderers, rapists, thieves, or useless sacks of shits.

Being the criminals and the idle isn't exactly a proud legacy for the Caucasians . And I believe it's one they should be reminded of till the end of time. After all refuse to learn from history and you repeat it's mistakes.


Ah, ok, I understand.

If you lump all whites into one group and claim even those who did not actively engage in racism are responsible, because they "idly stood by", it is a logical conclusion.

But if you lump all muslims into one group and claim even those who did not actively engage in terrorism are responsible, because they "idly stood by", that is racist.

Got it. Totally logically sound.

... oh, wait, no. You cannot logically believe both those things (or similar) simultaneously without being a hypocrite.

So, ok, if we hold all whites culpable for their role in slavery, segregation, and the seizure of property, do we also hold all asians responsible for Ghengis Khan? Those horrible asians, facilitating the largest slaughter of human life on the planet!

Do we hold all indigenous south americans responsible for the slavery and slaughter of the Inca and Mayan empires? Do we hold all arabs responsible for the (much longer-running and more prolific) Ottoman/ Barbary slave trade? All Japanese forever are horrible because of the "Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere"?

I would throw in that the north american tribes were not exactly angels either, and that they also warred with, killed, enslaved, and seized territory from each other, but I think you get the point.

Ah, and I'm not sure that fighting a civil war, or defeating the Nazis and Japanese Empire counts as "idle". Nor does active dissent against the slave trade from the moment it started. Nor does actively fighting the Ottoman/ Barbary slave trade (or the modern slave trades). Your arbitrary division of an entire race into "criminals" and "facilitators" is a gross over-simplification.

The europeans were just lucky enough to be the best-armed and most well-drilled at that point in history. If you think that, had the indigenous north americans developed advanced weaponry before the europeans, they would not have done exactly the same... well, I beg to differ.

So I guess we just disagree on the definition of "racism", because unlike the post-modernist SJW definition, I do not believe that "power" or "priveledge" are a necessary component.
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Justice has been served.

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Well, I certainly don't agree with that sentence and believe that drunk drivers who kill people should get just as much jail time as someone who plans to and does murder someone. While they may not have planned to kill someone, they did make the choice to get behind the wheel while intoxicated and put people's lives in danger. I'm really sorry that that happened to you, and that sucks and is stupid that he was able to get out of jail early, because he shouldn't have been able to in my opinion. And you know where I live, silly, if you read my profile. I live in Vermont in the U.S.. I have heard of several drunk driving cases like yours down here too though, but Vermont is also one of the more tougher states on things like that for sentencing. I was more talking about the actual murder cases where someone planned on killing someone or did so on purpose though.


And I am just saying there is a metric ton of cases where murderers of all stripes got off easy or did not end up serving their full sentence . We live in a world that pretends stupidity, negligence and incompetence are paraded around as moral equality and justice. That the courts of law are to be no more trusted to deal out true justice then a pitchfork and torch bearing mob.

This I know from personal experience and I am not the only one with such a sad story to tell. There are countless more that can tell stories even more horrible then mine. So I am glad there is at least one judge out there willing to punish people as harshly as they deserve. One member of the court system that remembers what their job truly is.

Even if it is only bitch slapping a couple of useless white supremacists.


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