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Posted 3/9/17

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That's a query and not an absolute statement like the title claims, but nice try.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/item/57eaaf23-0cef-48c8-961f-41f2563b38aa
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She believes there is an issue that goes “much deeper than child porn”.

Domestic sales of manga comics topped over £2 billion in Japan in 2015.

"Lolicon" (short for "Lolita complex") is the Japanese term for manga and anime featuring sexually explicit images of children. It can involve extreme violence, rape and incest.


sexually explicit manga continuing to inhabit a grey area, you have to ask, is Japan turning a blind eye to paedophilia?


Either way, steps are being taken to change things.




I get feeling grossed out by it, I've had to drop a few anime because of it. But a drawing is just a drawing. Who decides what age a stick man is?


That is still an entirely different thing than the BBC saying "Anime is pedophilia and needs to be illegal". Unless you have anything that shows them actually saying it or something like it I'm done listening to your crap.
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I think it's a topic worth addressing since there do seem to be pedophilia themes in a lot of anime and manga. But yeah, I think the U.K. has a lot of their own issues to take care of right now and shouldn't act like they are good role models.
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octorockandroll wrote:
That's a query and not an absolute statement like the title claims, but nice try.


it's called a rhetoric - a statement disguised as a question. a fairly common technique to push your viewpoints.
this is especially effectice, since most people would just trust the reporter and not do their own research about yuyushiki.
the likely response from people not familiar with anime would be
"i don't know, maybe..? reporter is saying that Japan have a problem with pedophilia, so that's probably one such example"
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If someone were paying you to write books and they edited a part out because you wrote something they don't like or find offensive are they responsible for you writing the thing that was deleted? They're still paying you to write your books after all.

this looks fine if you don't see the context or what was actually removed from the documentary.



During the interview, Nogami commented on the UK’s poverty issue (6.5% of the population lives in poverty with an extra 16.5% at risk of becoming impoverished). According to Nogami, Dooley ignored this comment and continued about how all fiction sexualizing young girls should be banned.
The interview ended with a very hotly contested exchange. Before leaving, Dooley asked Nogami, “Why don’t you Japanese people follow what the UK does?”

Nogami replied, “Why don’t you British people follow Japan, since we’re more civilized and have a lower crime rate than the UK?”

Nogami’s interview was not included in the finished documentary.


essentialy, Nogami made various points such as the poverty in the UK and how Japan have a lower crime rate.
BBC chose to remove his interview...gee i wonder why.


It's funny because it's almost like they are trying to avoid hitting a sensitive subject I remember when I was in school the 1/5 children in Scotland live in poverty was thrown around and almost my entire class was one of those (class of 20) so you stopped seeing the fact that money was tight and most parents had an unstable job and you just saw the pupils with more and thought they were rich Then in recent years the SNP gained popularity which is bad for the BBC because of the attempt at independence so they were scared of their money being lost... I can't help but see that the SNP support as caused by failures of the other parties mixed with people my age being taught that it was a poor area despite the oil industry which is now failing.
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namealreadytaken wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:
That's a query and not an absolute statement like the title claims, but nice try.


it's called a rhetoric - a statement disguised as a question. a fairly common technique to push your viewpoints.
this is especially effectice, since most people would just trust the reporter and not do their own research about yuyushiki.
the likely response from people not familiar with anime would be
"i don't know, maybe..? reporter is saying that Japan have a problem with pedophilia, so that's probably one such example"


I get that, but it is still different than what is being presented in the title.
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http://www.independent.ie/style/celebrity/celebrity-news/bbc-film-maker-quizzed-by-japanese-police-over-child-sex-documentary-35482980.html
Holy cow that lady is a nutjob
>film some people without their consent
>they ask you to stop
>don't
>cops show up and detain you
>accuse them of being pedos pretty much while saying 'I'M A STRONG WOMAN!'

"We set out to try and understand why it took a privileged country, like Japan, so long to come to this conclusion and also to see if the change in their law had made any real difference on the ground."

AHHHHHH
Why are SJWs trying to take over Japan?
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AHHHHHH
Why are SJWs trying to take over Japan?
Simple, they want to take over the entire world and force everyone to agree with them or be denounced and destroyed.

A fanatic by any other name would still be utterly convinced of their righteousness and your terribleness for opposing / disagreeing with them. The goal of any fanatic is total domination of others by their views.

It's especially hard to deal with fanatics in the great pedo hunt since they use the "it's for the children!" argument so well. People think that by supporting increasingly Draconian limits on free speech and increased censorship that they are actually protecting children when often the policies put forth achieve no results at best and harmful results at worst.

Calling people "racist" has lost almost any impact for many but calling someone a pedophile still stings too.
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Calling people "racist" has lost almost any impact for many


I agree with you, but at the same time, the same can be said about the term SJW too.
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Why are SJWs trying to take over Japan?


because they are zealots and that's what they do unfortunately...

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People who keep wanting to criminalize Anime , Manga , Loli Hentai etc are just idiots end of story.



I agree

Anime provides a safe outlet for pretty much any desire you might have, including many that should not/cannot be indulged in real life.
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Who reported this thread? Are you noobs so desperate, as to /ban anything that doesn't make for Trump responsible? The fools...
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Who reported this thread? Are you noobs so desperate, as to /ban anything that doesn't make for Trump responsible? The fools...


Ah, I knew something was missing. Good thing the thread can really get started now that we have an unnecessarily confrontational guy trying to push a hyper partisan "left vs right" narrative despite that having nothing to do with anything in the discussion.
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It is because, some of ye, "like to have mommy come save you everytime u see something you don't like", it is so...


This is the Internet, not your house. The forum mods shouldn't have to hold your hand every time ur upset; they are unpaid and have real lives to deal with. No need fir babysitting. Time to Moveon.org


But no matter...
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Amyas_Leigh wrote:

It gets better
British tax dollars pay for her to do this


Technically incorrect. We don't have dollars here and it isn't a tax. You don't have to pay if you can prove you don't watch television or access BBC materials online...


The BBC is a public sector broadcaster and has to cater for the demands of a diverse population. It produces some very good programmes, both factual and fictional. It generally has good quality journalism and is mandated to present both sides of a political debate. However, it does sometimes produce trashy material, as every broadcaster does.

An interesting thing to note here is that it is a BBC 3 programme. BBC 3 is the experimental, pop-culture arm of the corporation, which likes to take risks and push boundaries. Respectable documentaries are normally left for BBC 2, BBC 4 or the BBC News channel. I have avoided watching this documentary as the publicity for it just screams out that the journalist hasn't done her homework on Japanese culture and is aiming for a sensationalist story.

One subject on this thread I would like to challenge though is the idea that the people of one country can't comment on a situation in another country. I think commentary and discussion is healthy and should continue. As with any debate though, if an uninformed individual gives a piece of advice or makes a sensationalist claim to grab ratings (somewhat akin to the internet troll) you don't have to follow that advice.
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Posted 3/9/17 , edited 3/9/17

MidoriNoTora wrote:

You don't have to pay if you can prove you don't watch television


And if you can't prove it and don't pay you get guys in suits knocking on your door, right? Sounds a bit like taxes to me.



That's hilarious
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This is some dystopian shit
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