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Why is Sakura so hated?
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Sakura is poorly written, so is Sasuke, though he is actually fairly well written in Boruto.

However, I think what gets to me the most is that she is still in love with Sasuke at around the 90% mark of Naruto... after he has shown that he is simply a rageaholic who doesn't give a shit about her and would kill her without any second thought. You have to be a special level of stupid to keep chasing after someone like that. Honestly, I kind of wish Sasuke did kill her, it would make much more sense than him being redeemed and her marrying him. :/ Just alluding to that level of stupidity has made my IQ drop a few points.


I'm guessing you don't like a good redemption story then? Sasuke was simply one of those characters that did bad things on the scale of "he's gonna kill the guy who searched for him for three years" and "he's gonna kill the world's leaders" Terrible, easily, but not irredeemable. Also, please, don't just blindly deny you don't like them. I won't judge you for it.


A lot of things he did were impulsive, stupid, and morally callous. Even discounting this, doesn't Sakura have any shame, any limits to husband material? This is not a wife forgiving a husband for a horrendous past, but for a crime against her and other people, that she witnessed time and time again. Why? I am not mad at Sakura at this point, but at Kishimoto because it is so blatantly stupid that I cannot consider her an understandable character with human rationale, or anything I can understand.
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I love Sakura but I hate the way she was written.

From my experience a lot of people hate Sakura for the wasted potential she is. Kishimoto constantly gave her these amazing moments and has her say things like "I'm not weak anymore, I'm on the same level as you guys" which could have easily redeemed her past mistakes, and then one page later we see her getting saved because it was too much for her. Then everyone complains because what was the point of that? Why waste pages trying to make her look like she's finally doing something only to take it away one page later?

I read a bit ago that Kishimoto had purposely made Sakura normal compared to the guys in Team 7 because there was nothing he could do with her, she wasn't meant to be such an important character. The story was about Naruto and Sasuke (and Kakashi if you really think about it), there was no room to put Sakura anywhere or give her some importance outside of what she was given.

It definitely bit him in the ass the longer Naruto went on and Sakura became more involved as a main character with no real base to build off of. In the end what we got was a character who had just barely started to crack the stigma that she was useless but had run out of time to do anything with her ability.

Like I said, I love Sakura. She was one of my favorites through the manga, but she absolutely got the shortest end of the stick when it came to development.
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She's not useless at all, people just try to compare her to Sasuke and Naruto, no female ninja really does anything substantial or magnificent compared to half the male characters, Sakura herself was originally intended to be a side character for the love triangle plot but wove her into the story more because he saw potential but as you can tell she wasn't meant to be the main focus. Sakura is capable of many amazing feats but they were never shown to us.
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She's not useless at all, people just try to compare her to Sasuke and Naruto, no female ninja really does anything substantial or magnificent compared to half the male characters, Sakura herself was originally intended to be a side character for the love triangle plot but wove her into the story more because he saw potential but as you can tell she wasn't meant to be the main focus. Sakura is capable of many amazing feats but they were never shown to us.


Yeah, useless. Potential doesn't matter when you don't live up to it. One could brag about having an IQ of 270, but a High IQ means nothing if they aren't willing to invent or do any serious work, or an athletic body if you sit in the front of the computer all day.

The fact that no other female does anything doesn't matter as much, because Sakura is a main character in the original series.


Honestly, at this point, the only writers anywhere who can write good characters opposite their own gender are those they do not see gender as significant in anyway, especially those that outright avoid romance.
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jaragnaros wrote:

She's not useless at all, people just try to compare her to Sasuke and Naruto, no female ninja really does anything substantial or magnificent compared to half the male characters, Sakura herself was originally intended to be a side character for the love triangle plot but wove her into the story more because he saw potential but as you can tell she wasn't meant to be the main focus. Sakura is capable of many amazing feats but they were never shown to us.


Yeah, useless. Potential doesn't matter when you don't live up to it. One could brag about having an IQ of 270, but a High IQ means nothing if they aren't willing to invent or do any serious work, or an athletic body if you sit in the front of the computer all day.

The fact that no other female does anything doesn't matter as much, because Sakura is a main character in the original series.


Honestly, at this point, the only writers anywhere who can write good characters opposite their own gender are those they do not see gender as significant in anyway, especially those that outright avoid romance.


You kinda missed my point and phrase it as if Sakura could just show us all right now despite being fictional but to put it another way, Sakura can do amazing things but it's not the authors intent to show us, doesn't change the fact she could but she herself is only a character in a story, he could just write a side story and show us all her talents but he won't, we know she is one of the top medical ninja of her time, well versed in medicine and nutrition far surpassing Naruto's and Sasuke's understanding of it but we aren't going to see her in the operating room any time soon.
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BECAUSE SHE SO STRONG BUT SO WEAK AT THE SAME TIME
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jaragnaros wrote:

She's not useless at all, people just try to compare her to Sasuke and Naruto, no female ninja really does anything substantial or magnificent compared to half the male characters, Sakura herself was originally intended to be a side character for the love triangle plot but wove her into the story more because he saw potential but as you can tell she wasn't meant to be the main focus. Sakura is capable of many amazing feats but they were never shown to us.


Yeah, useless. Potential doesn't matter when you don't live up to it. One could brag about having an IQ of 270, but a High IQ means nothing if they aren't willing to invent or do any serious work, or an athletic body if you sit in the front of the computer all day.

The fact that no other female does anything doesn't matter as much, because Sakura is a main character in the original series.


Honestly, at this point, the only writers anywhere who can write good characters opposite their own gender are those they do not see gender as significant in anyway, especially those that outright avoid romance.


You kinda missed my point and phrase it as if Sakura could just show us all right now despite being fictional but to put it another way, Sakura can do amazing things but it's not the authors intent to show us, doesn't change the fact she could but she herself is only a character in a story, he could just write a side story and show us all her talents but he won't, we know she is one of the top medical ninja of her time, well versed in medicine and nutrition far surpassing Naruto's and Sasuke's understanding of it but we aren't going to see her in the operating room any time soon.


Ah, I see. I understood it as potential, but what you are mean are feats that not on screen. Capable can mean be able, not necessarily doing it.

I was referencing mostly the original series, because Shippuden is a separate issue.

It is important to understand that the writers are god, and control every aspect of the story. Hence, this throws out the argument of why useless characters should exist. They should not. They should written in a way so that they are not useless, whether it can be comic relief or otherwise. Sakura is of two varieties. Plot relevance, and in-universe. The story doesn't demand her existence to propel it forward or change it, and quite frankly, neither do the situations and the characters, to whom she presented as a burden at worst, a possible but unable savior at..worst. The value lies in her development and resolve to better herself, but a lot of it was lackluster, up until episode 220 where she absolves, with Ino, to study under Tsunade, and that was a filler episode before the time skip. In essence, it took a goddamn long time, which does not make sense, because after Sasuke defected to Orochimaru, there story had no purpose between that and Shippuden, which would have been great for bettering Sakura, which brings me tot he issue of Shippuden.

Her plot relevance appeared to be high, especially with the fight against Sasori, but then, it languished, and after the attack on the Kage Summit, dropped completely, and in hindsight, the fight against Sasori might have been a meaningless show of badass character development, since we have little idea of Sasori's worth to plot, besides being an Akatsuki member who doesn't know Pain's plans, much less Obito's. Her in universe value is something to lauded as medical nin, but she lacked on screen time and regressed to a background character as she was apparently intended. I do not think this is a bad move for Kishimoto, considering his guile in plots and characters and options of where to take the story. I think we both agree here. This story is not about her, thus her regression to the background.

She should have been useful, it doesn't matter that if deviated from her stance as normal, heck, give her a random secret power or something, but I certainly am not sympathizing with her as being the normal character.

I think it is important to differentiate "strong females" and "strong female protaganists", with the first being an idol in some way, an image of impossibly high standards that one should strive to. In terms of male character, this was primarily Kamina's role in TTGL. Strong female protagonists, and by extension strong protagonists, are not something I really understand. I imagine a lot of hate is because we got to understand Sakura as a human, or a reflection of someone we could find in real life, but she was neither someone to look up to as a paradigm of virtue or learn from since most of us have grown pass the tween years, or in any way sympathize with (And they do a pretty terrible job as painting her as something to be avoided if that is what they are aiming for). She was 12 when the series started, and most of her character was about how she crushed on Sasuke.

Which brings me another flaw. If you are going to write a love traingle, why do it with kids? Stupid kids? This isn't Avatar where people are paired up and they grow over time, getting accustomed to how to care for another in an appropriate manner. Instead, it was love at first sight, with a mass amount of stupidity and not a whole lot of learning over how to have a functioning relationship.

So....why? They're kids, and kids are idiots to matters of love. Hell, a lot of adults are idiots when it comes to this too.
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You summed up why I don't like her. If she had better character development I would probably not find her as much of a waste of space.
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(at least from my perspective) it's because she's pretty useless, complains alot, and honestly for a main character we barley get to see her do anything at all, a lot of the women in naruto even the side characters not only get better development but even in the early episodes just get to showcase their abilities and just contribute more to their respective teams and later as a whole in the village, so at least in my opinion while she is NECESSARY to the story of naruto, she just gets to much screen time and arguably makes the least contribution which is really REALLY bad for a main character in any anime, in saying that i don't dislike sakura (though i am team hinata) there's plenty of moments where i enjoyed a moment she was involved in, i just kinda wish more effort to her character was put in by the writer.
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In the end Sakura met the same fate of all heroines in shounen, lack of attention, appear for a bit, add some spice to the story and then get sidelined whilst the heroes fight
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xxJing wrote:

Sakura is poorly written, so is Sasuke, though he is actually fairly well written in Boruto.

However, I think what gets to me the most is that she is still in love with Sasuke at around the 90% mark of Naruto... after he has shown that he is simply a rageaholic who doesn't give a shit about her and would kill her without any second thought. You have to be a special level of stupid to keep chasing after someone like that. Honestly, I kind of wish Sasuke did kill her, it would make much more sense than him being redeemed and her marrying him. :/ Just alluding to that level of stupidity has made my IQ drop a few points.


I'm guessing you don't like a good redemption story then? Sasuke was simply one of those characters that did bad things on the scale of "he's gonna kill the guy who searched for him for three years" and "he's gonna kill the world's leaders" Terrible, easily, but not irredeemable. Also, please, don't just blindly deny you don't like them. I won't judge you for it.


A lot of things he did were impulsive, stupid, and morally callous. Even discounting this, doesn't Sakura have any shame, any limits to husband material? This is not a wife forgiving a husband for a horrendous past, but for a crime against her and other people, that she witnessed time and time again. Why? I am not mad at Sakura at this point, but at Kishimoto because it is so blatantly stupid that I cannot consider her an understandable character with human rationale, or anything I can understand.


Okay. Still, I think that's the point.

Let me explain what I mean. Sasuke is clearly written to be hard to understand, hard to relate to, that sort of thing. Naruto is written to become smarter and not wear his emotions on his face when he gets older, a lot like Sasuke did in Naruto and Naruto Shippuden, and in effect also becoming harder for the reader/viewer to relate to. As for Sakura, though, I say this: morals and this "human rationale" don't mix very well with "love." By following society's rules (human rationale), and by reinforcing certain ideals within yourself (your morals), you make it harder to accept someone you can't understand. I'm no expert, but I would say that would make falling in love with them hurt a little more.

Now let me tell you what I see to be the "rules of society" in the ninja world. I see different rules from reality all the time in other anime/manga. You, for instance, surely wouldn't know of a place in any country where people would "never abandon their comrades," would you? That's because it doesn't exist in the real world. It was articulated so succinctly during the battle of Konoha Crush in Naruto by some ninja I didn't bother remembering. It's a lot like with One Piece; the rules of society are very different, or else there would probably be as many pirates in One Piece as in the real world, and most of them would be the kind of pirate that steals and not the kind that adventures around in a ship with cannons. In both of these examples, the world that the author created was markedly different from reality; in Naruto, for instance, ninja don't just abandon their friends even if it's the smart thing to do (aside from people like Sasuke, but that's a little different).

Considering that, along with the fact that she was friends with Naruto, someone who believes this devoutly as his own belief and not just duty, and that she grew as a person with Naruto, don't you think he might have influenced her a little bit?

So, "why did she forgive him?" you ask? Well, I guess you could just say, "because it's Naruto (the story)," because that really makes the most sense. You have to admit that, if she did go from being his friend in Naruto to hating him scathingly at the Five Kage Summit, it wouldn't fit with the rest of the world, don't you think? And, of course, because her world isn't real, we can't understand it, can we?

Do you see where I'm going with this?
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First the orignal post is so vagie you know jow many Sakura's there are gees ! Guess it was Naruto

But think before you post!' ( Here's why just a few )


Our top 10 Sakura in anime
Ahh, sakura trees. The pink petals that swirl in the wind whenever a girl catches the eye of her crush; the countless skeletons buried under their roots; the myriad of petal themed attacks... Whichever interpretation you want, no one can deny that March is the month of sakura.


In Japan, March is the start of the hanami -flower viewing- season where people will often sit under the sakura and have picnics with their loved ones. “But we’re in Australia! It’s not spring!” we hear you cry. True as that may be, there is no better time than the present to celebrate all things sakura, which is why we’ve made a list of our top 10 Sakura! (Just roll with us here, okay?)

*We’d better make a quick translation note here that sakura means “cherry blossom”, just in case some of you have no clue what we’re going on about.

10. Sakura Matou – Fate/Stay Night
A young woman who possesses immense natural power and great inner strength, despite the many hardships she faces. She has a not-so-subtle crush on Shirou Emiya and often helps him with his chores. She has a gentle smile and is talented at archery.


9. Sakura Sakurakouji – Code: Breaker
A beautiful girl that boys want to protect… before they realise she’s a martial arts expert. She’s friendly and elegant and slightly naive. Her protective and good natured personality poses a bit of a problem after she catches her bus and witnesses something unusual through the window… a teenage boy mercilessly burning people with a mysterious blue flame. She ultimately gets drawn into the underworld of Code:Breaker, an organisation that hires assassins with strange powers and secretly works under the government…! Next time you get on public transport, remember that you might just witness a handsome young assassin frying people on your way home.


8. Sakura Mizukami – D-Frag!
One of the Game Creation Club (Temp) girls, Sakura believes she has power over water and can use it in combat. This involves pouring water on her hands and forcing her opponents to choke down bottles of water, all with a bright smile on her face. Her weak spot is surely the threat of water restrictions.


7. Sakura Hagiwara – Gonna be the Greatest in the World!
Sakura’s a cutesy pop idol in the group Sweet Diva. After a female wrestler injures one of her co-members Sakura decides to become a wrestler to avenge her friend. Turns out she’s not too bad at it. What sort of training do idols do behind the scenes anyway?


6. Ichiko Sakura – Good Luck Girl!
A high school girl blessed with great luck, she is smart, attractive and never has to work hard at anything. It turns out she’s been absorbing Happiness energy from those around her, disrupting the World’s energy balance. Because of her fortunate life, Ichiko has a big ego and thinks money is more important than being with people who love you. She’s actually quite lonely, and eventually learns how to be a more caring person.


5. Sakura Kasugano – Street Fighter
A school girl who teaches herself martial arts after watching Ryu win the first World Warrior tournament. Her style may be an emulation of Ryu’s, but she is a strong fighter in her own right and has the potential to become even stronger than her idol. She has a strong sense of justice and won’t hesitate to help out anyone in trouble.


4. Kyoko Sakura – Madoka Magica
A veteran magical girl who always seems to be eating something. She’s stubborn, brash and aggressive, preferring to work by herself than in a team. However, after she warms up to the other magical girls, she becomes a loyal comrade, willing to sacrifice herself for others. Her combat skills are highly developed and, despite her fiery temper, remains level headed in combat.


3. Sakura Oogami – Dangan Ronpa
Despite being buffer than all the Dangan Ronpa cast combined, Sakura is a noble and quiet girl who would rather be friends than fight… That is, unless you’re challenging her to a martial arts or wrestling match, in which case she won’t hesitate to beat you down.


2. Sakura Haruno – Naruto
Where once Sakura just seemed like a mostly useless side character, she really came into her own as the series went on, developing her medical jutsu and becoming a truly valuable member of the team. She also got her man in the end, despite her big forehead.


1. Sakura Kinomoto – Cardcaptor Sakura/Tsubasa Chronicle
In Cardcaptor Sakura, she’s a ten year old who unwittingly frees the Clow cards and must find them before they cause trouble. In Tsubasa Chronicles, she’s the princess of Clow and in love with her childhood friend, Syaoran. Her memories get separated from her and turned into feathers, causing Syaoran to go on a journey to find them. In both incarnations, Sakura is a positive and upbeat girl, always ready to offer a smile and her assistance when times get tough.


0. Pet Girl of Sakurasou
Okay, so this isn’t a person, but this anime is so chock full of sakura you could probably swim in it. Really. I hope no-one staying at the Sakurasou dorm has hay fever.

https://www.madman.com.au/news/top-10-sakura/



Characters named Sakura
Hello Anime Amigos!

In dedication to the

#AACherryBlossomFestival

I decided to dedicate a blog about Characters that are named after the lovely Sakura tree

The name Sakura is commonly used for females in Japan, so it is common for female anime characters to have the name, but I have seen a male manga character have the name but forgot the series at the moment

Here are the characters:

Sakura Kinomoto from Cardcaptors

Sakura Haruno from the Naruto series

Sakura Matou from Fate/Stay Night

Sakura Kouji from Code: Breaker

Sakura Chiyo from Gekkan Shoujo Nozaki-kun

Sakura Kasugono from Street Fighter

Sakura Oogami from Dangan Ronpa

Kyouko Sakura from Puella Magi Magica Madoka

http://aminomail.com/page/anime/7791479/characters-named-sakura


Sorry. I'm not that well-versed in anime and I also thought I was posting in the Naruto category. If it could be moved, that would be nice... (hint, hint, admins...)
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I love Sakura but I hate the way she was written.

From my experience a lot of people hate Sakura for the wasted potential she is. Kishimoto constantly gave her these amazing moments and has her say things like "I'm not weak anymore, I'm on the same level as you guys" which could have easily redeemed her past mistakes, and then one page later we see her getting saved because it was too much for her. Then everyone complains because what was the point of that? Why waste pages trying to make her look like she's finally doing something only to take it away one page later?

I read a bit ago that Kishimoto had purposely made Sakura normal compared to the guys in Team 7 because there was nothing he could do with her, she wasn't meant to be such an important character. The story was about Naruto and Sasuke (and Kakashi if you really think about it), there was no room to put Sakura anywhere or give her some importance outside of what she was given.

It definitely bit him in the ass the longer Naruto went on and Sakura became more involved as a main character with no real base to build off of. In the end what we got was a character who had just barely started to crack the stigma that she was useless but had run out of time to do anything with her ability.

Like I said, I love Sakura. She was one of my favorites through the manga, but she absolutely got the shortest end of the stick when it came to development.


I'm going to put in a short response because I'm too tired to make a long one right now.

I find it nice to finally find a story that doesn't tie up every loose end. I like that Kishimoto decided not to do anything with her instead of making up something that wouldn't outshine Naruto and Sasuke and still be an acceptable explanation, which is extremely hard to do and harder to watch fail so spectacularly. I like that the other characters don't have very important backstories so that I don't have to remember multiple different sets of ideals outside of the main protagonist and antagonist. I also like the fact that those details that we did get were easy to remember because they reminded me of Naruto's or Sasuke's backstory in some way (such as Obito's absolute hatred when Rin died and "the world" was the killer was strikingly similar, if less violent, than Sasuke's absolute hatred when the Itachi he used to know "died" and the cold-blooded Itachi was his killer).

This is what I feel like saying about it now.
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I'm going to put in a short response because I'm too tired to make a long one right now.

I find it nice to finally find a story that doesn't tie up every loose end. I like that Kishimoto decided not to do anything with her instead of making up something that wouldn't outshine Naruto and Sasuke and still be an acceptable explanation, which is extremely hard to do and harder to watch fail so spectacularly. I like that the other characters don't have very important backstories so that I don't have to remember multiple different sets of ideals outside of the main protagonist and antagonist. I also like the fact that those details that we did get were easy to remember because they reminded me of Naruto's or Sasuke's backstory in some way (such as Obito's absolute hatred when Rin died and "the world" was the killer was strikingly similar, if less violent, than Sasuke's absolute hatred when the Itachi he used to know "died" and the cold-blooded Itachi was his killer).

This is what I feel like saying about it now.


Short works for me lol, I don't really like going into long discussion lol.

Oh I didn't exactly want her to outshine the guys, and I guess if I really look at it that way I can accept her role in the story as it is. She didn't exactly need backstory - her rivalry with Ino was enough to trigger a path that benefited everyone and let her character grow without needing any special talents. My only gripe and the point of my post is I just wish she could have gotten more screentime but the main story didn't allow for it since there would have been no point (like imagine if we spent a volume on a backstory for Shikamaru that doesn't relate to the overall story). It doesn't mean she's useless or that I'm mad at Kishimoto for writing the manga the way he wanted, I'm just a Sakura fan with a bitter taste in my mouth.
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sakura sucks ass
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