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Post Reply Westerners may also have low tolerance to moe fandom in general
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Posted 5/26/17

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I want to weigh in, but i have a difficult time understanding moe; mainly because I only think two things are cute (kittens and KPP). The OP even says the term is vague. Are New Game!, Yokuwakaru Gendai Maho & Sakura Quest moe based on the characters and their actions? Or is it a fandom reaction to characters depicted as young?


Eh, it depends. Moe is pervasive in Japanese media, but the concept of certain female characters may be more or less dependent on a cuteness factor to raise their waifu rating, with my earliest encounter and example probably being Belldandy from Ah! My Goddess! In essence, it may go beyond the typical shows centered around it, by creating an apperance of vulnerability, which in this case, is Belldandy's innocence, as to many other factors, perhaps the sexual precocious nature of the elementary schoolers of Mitsudomoe (Which is a decent show, oddly enough, and a great deal more varied in humor than later season so Seitokai Yakuindomo) Moe can be utilized as a trait of romantic attraction, which appears to be a common desire among people, but especially the Japanese, which may tie into that of vulnerability to contrast the nature of a being who may exude sexiness.

There is typical cuteness that is not rooted in a romantic attraction, but waifu cuteness seems to be more rampant. You got tsunderes like Taiga Asaka from Toradora and Louise from Zero No Tsukaima, who have a hidden sob story explaining their bitchiness. You have the sexually charged Amane Suou from the Grisaia trilogy, who more or less in the novel is all talk when it comes to doing the deed. You have the possible example of ax crazy General Esdeath from Akame Ga Kill, whose pantless undress and a freaking panel show her blushing at times helped with her overall image, despite the whole sadistic edge that one would expect in what is essentially a bleached Nazi garb. Makise Kurisu in Steins;Gate has moments of vulnerability, particularly that scene where her lab coat got wet, as well as her embarrassment regarding a certain popular meme.

It may go back to the idea of why dating sims exist in their usual formula. It is based around a basic attraction, followed by a growing relationship experiencing difficulties due to a problem, usually connected to the past of the romantic interest, in which the player then has to resolve in order to get their happy ending. Cuteness draws on the ability to have a viewer want to help, want to protect typically.

It is kind of hard for a relationship to start with a mentally healthy and completely independent person in Japanese fiction land. In any case, cuteness may run the gamut from flaw to glamorized flaw (Clumsiness).

That is just my take on it. Moe is really quite pervasive, but I have no idea about cute girls doing cute thing series that aim for a nonsexual view of its characters, such as definitely Non Non Biyori.

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Well, I'm not surprised seeing that the moe culture takes a backseat in a place that's much more manly. As for me, I'm neutral towards this issue as while moe has its place, there is a boundary that shouldn't be crossed. I view it positively as long as it stays within the boundary, but once it steps over the boundary (most of the time, it's fanservice and porn that is meant to appeal to the sluttiest of fans), well that's when I really feel appalled.
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Its just too cute to the point it seems a bit unappealing to me.





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