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That kind of sucks. I loved using a combination of NPR/Fox radio to stay up on current events. It helped me keep some perspective, and NPR had some great nonpolitical programming, too.
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octorockandroll wrote:

Ikr. We have to stop those liberals from indoctrinating children into thinking 2+2=4

#AlternativeSmarts


Yeah! All those stupid nature documentaries too! If something is happening in a rain forest on the other side of the globe why do any of us need to know about it? I don't live in a damn rain forest, and neither will my children. Globalist propaganda is all it is.
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scoobydew wrote:

Big bird trying to get welfare dam him


I knew he was a leech. Cookie Monster is probably out there robbing and stealing to feed his addictions.
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Thank God! So according to CNN under the new budget government funded news outlets like PBS and NPR will lose all of their federal funding. Saving the taxpayers $4 billion over the 8 years.

Did they mention Frontline yet? They always DO...


These outlets over the years have become decidedly more partisan, favoring liberal points of view. I think the government should get out of the news business and I think if PBS and NPR fold it will do a lot to balance the news coverage in the U.S.
http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/16/media/public-media-pbs-npr-budget-cuts/index.html

Oh, lookit that, now that they think Trump Can Do Anything and The World is Lying, Cheating and Stealing Against Them, they're putting it front and center now!

(Oh, and do we still get that stuff we got from Newt Gingrich's bunch back in the 90's, when everyone thought--no, really--that CABLE would pick up PBS's slack?:
"Nickelodeon could show Sesame Street! History Channel could show the Civil War! Comedy Central could show the Britcoms!"
Are they still using that today, even though it sounds even tragically sillier today than it did twenty years ago? Or are they leaping on the new "Netflix could show etc., etc.!"?)

And to be honest, seeing Sesame Street now airing on HBO is kind of a blow to my childhood--like seeing a favorite old grandpa with IV's in an hospital bed with the machine that goes "ping", and nobody knows what's going to happen when Caroll Spinney ends up the same way--but we'll still rub Big Bird in the face of all the Frontline-assassins.
It's a doomed dream they've had for twenty years, every time they glance around and think "the coast is clear", and they're not getting it YET.
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I keep hearing a lot about all of these little cuts that the Trump administration seems to be making to reduce taxes, but in the end, we are just losing a lot of good programs and getting pennies in return (before considering the macroeconomic effects).

Some context: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wUePyAqPuk
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So basically NPR and PBS either go full private or more fundraisers? Joy
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I Just want to see the government shrink, they really don't need all these taxes. Cuts to all sort of programs are welcome even if it makes things tough for a while. Military and Police would be the exception; it is the primary duty of government after all, to protect our freedom from threats both foreign and domestic.
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Karunata wrote:

I Just want to see the government shrink, they really don't need all these taxes. Cuts to all sort of programs are welcome even if it makes things tough for a while. Military and Police would be the exception; it is the primary duty of government after all, to protect our freedom from threats both foreign and domestic.


So, instead of helping people and creating social benefit, you'd rather be scared of Bad People, and kill them before they sneak in your window and break all the locks on your doors--
Well, that would pretty much be the Republican agenda for most of the last forty years...
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So, without the 18% (PBS) or less than 15% (NPR) funding from the government, they are doomed!

Here's a few things to ponder about these organizations, the following are reported levels of compensation from 2013 (IRS Form 990)
Harrison of CPB: $434,364
Knell of NPR : $756,575
Kerger of PBS: $779.954

Compensation for the top executives at the local top 74 NPR/PBS stations went from a low of $89,000 to a high of $790.115

Figures are from this chart:
http://current.org/2015/11/the-numbers-what-top-executives-are-making/
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So, without the 18% (PBS) or less than 15% (NPR) funding from the government, they are doomed!

Here's a few things to ponder about these organizations, the following are reported levels of compensation from 2013 (IRS Form 990)
Harrison of CPB: $434,364
Knell of NPR : $756,575
Kerger of PBS: $779.954

Compensation for the top executives at the local top 74 NPR/PBS stations went from a low of $89,000 to a high of $790.115

Figures are from this chart:
http://current.org/2015/11/the-numbers-what-top-executives-are-making/


I'm not saying that the rest of your post is wrong but are you seriously trying to say that losing close to a 5th of your income isn't a big deal? Because it kinda is.
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MysticGon wrote:

They can join the military.


Unfortunately, that's not how the military works. You still have to follow their processes, boot camp, and the likes in order to actually get "employed" by the military. Unless Trump basically tells all of those terminated due to the lack of federal funding of PBS/NPR that they're given a nice, cushy military desk job for $60,000 a year + overall benefits as a "contracted office administrator".


No special treatment. If the can score well enough they can get into the Air Force.


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MysticGon wrote:

Thank God! So according to CNN under the new budget government funded news outlets like PBS and NPR will lose all of their federal funding. Saving the taxpayers $4 billion over the 8 years. These outlets over the years have become decidedly more partisan, favoring liberal points of view. I think the government should get out of the news business and I think if PBS and NPR fold it will do a lot to balance the news coverage in the U.S.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/03/16/media/public-media-pbs-npr-budget-cuts/index.html



My, a whole 4 billion dollars. That's some savings.

Balance the news coverage? Given that all the current privately funded news services are pretty obvious in their political leanings, just how does this 'balance' them?

Both PBS and NPR have generally presented centrist news, and their political discussions generally include both sides of the aisle. They're also pretty aboveboard about programs that are distinctly left- or right-leaning.

But hey, we need to keep spending more on defense than the next 10 countries, yes? I mean, if we don't subsidize the military industrial complex, who will? (Let me make something clear: I am for a strong military, and for updating our equipment. However, I'm not for giving the military a blank check for no other reason than to look good politically.)


I disagree. Having listened to NPR for a number of years I can say, anecdotally, it is definitely a safe space for the left. Can't tell you how many times I've heard Tim Kaine on Morning Edition.

The guests PBS had as commentators during the election were majority liberal.

Obviously this is opinion based on what they were saying but that was the impression that I got. No one identified as a liberal. Duke University did a study in 2011 that determined they were liberal but not very. As a partly government funded program it shouldn't be partisan at all.

As for the balance... Liberals have late night tv comedians, majority of major newspapers, major of network tv news and majority of cable news channels (2 vs 1). Conservatives have talk radio and the biggest cable news outlet. Overall if PBS/NPR cave it help balance the overall landscape.

I agree with you about the military though. Money would be better spent on health or infrastructure.
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MysticGon wrote:

I agree with you about the military though. Money would be better spent on health or infrastructure.


And not on the more "unnecessary" things like other countries, peace initiatives, volunteer projects (including river-management infrastructure), overseas investments, arts and education, or ecological safety:
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-budget-eliminated-funding-20170316-story.html

Each one, of course, will be addressed with the usual butthurt, red-rovering and severely under-informed "Well...we didn't need 'em anyway!" attempts at defensiveness:
"I mean, African Development Foundation, what, we're going to give Tarzan's treehouse a rehab? They never gave us anything except Lt. Uhura, anyway!"
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MysticGon wrote: Overall if PBS/NPR cave it help balance the overall landscape.


I think you are looking for the wrong balance. Having 5 Hyper-liberal media outlets and 5 Hyper-conservative media outlets does not a balanced media make. NPR is pretty darn close to being centrist. That is the balance that we should be looking for. A tiny lean one way or the other is basically unavoidable, but killing of NPR with a tiny lean doesn't make the extremist media more balanced.
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We have become so partisan that anything that anything that doesn't have espouse their beliefs is bias.

*Sigh

What a load of bull.

There is no such thing as 100% center, and asking such is unrealistic, since most people's own biases will dictate that anything that doesn't agree with our view is incorrectly biased to one political view or another. That is all just opinion, and being considered a little bit left should not be a death sentence. It may be just how the dice is rolled, like how they are more women than men. People like the late Gwen Ifill are what we need, not assholes like Rachel Maddow waving a bunch of fucking tax forms from 2005 and Bill O'Reilly.


In short, a small, mediocre correlation to presenting news to the left does not mean it is intentionally left, and the whole thing is subject to political biases that deem non agreeing sources as opposite to us, and bias as such. This circlejerk culture of wanting to be told what we want to hear is killing us.
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