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I've been wanting to watch Ghost in the Shell, but realized there's a whole bunch of different parts in the series. Does anyone know the order to watch them in, like a list?
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First, you need to be aware that there are three different continuities: Arise OVA's, Stand Alone Complex (abbreviated SAC), and the movies.

The original Ghost in the Shell movie from the 90's and Innocence are in their own continuity.

Ghost in the Shell SAC's first and second gigs are seasons followed up with Solid State Society, making up that continuity.

Then there's the Arise OVA's followed up with Ghost in the Shell The New Movie.

Secondly, since they're in different continuities they don't really connect outside of the ways outlined above for plot. Thematically, there is some relation because of the genre and the characters are all there, but that's about it to summarize it. Personally, I think that SAC is probably the best, but the original film was something to behold when I went and saw it in theaters when it was back in theaters about a month ago.
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Watch the first two movies, then SAC, set Solid State Society on fire and never watch it, watch arise only if you want action, read the manga, watch the new movie and then never watch the Scarlett Johansson version ever.
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Just watch the 2 movies and then SAC. That's all.
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octorockandroll wrote:

Watch the first two movies, then SAC, set Solid State Society on fire and never watch it, watch arise only if you want action, read the manga, watch the new movie and then never watch the Scarlett Johansson version ever.


Solid State Society is more of an action movie than the cerebral procedural that the rest of the franchise is. Chris Stuckman has been going through and reviewing all the movies (I don't think he reviewed SAC by itself, but he noted that the movie is a sequel to SAC) and I think he put it best in that review that the movie is best viewed as an Aliens sequel to Alien because it's more action based. It's a change of pace from the more procedural aspect that we saw in SAC, which is where I think people tend to take issue with it even though SAC had quite of bit of action in it despite some episodes that had large exposition/info dumps in them.
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Solid State Society wasn't bad IMO, simply kind of meh. It was just not very ambitious, I felt like I was watching another episode from SAC, albeit a very long one. Why did you dislike it so much @octorockandroll?

As to OP, I'd say watch the the original two movies, then SAC, then do watch Solid State Society. I found Arise's plot difficult to follow, things were pretty convoluted as far as who/what the "bad guys" were fighting for.
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It's a different experience for each continuity, and while I do believe SAC is better than the '95 and '04 movies and the movies better than Arise, nothing is actually bad enough to skip without giving it a try. Like others, I recommend this order:

Ghost in the Shell
Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence

Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex 2nd GIG
Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex - Solid State Society

Ghost in the Shell: Arise - Border:1 Ghost Pain
Ghost in the Shell: Arise - Border:2 Ghost Whispers
Ghost in the Shell: Arise - Border:3 Ghost Tears
Ghost in the Shell: Arise - Border:4 Ghost Stands Alone
Ghost in the Shell (2015)
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jabber87 wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:

Watch the first two movies, then SAC, set Solid State Society on fire and never watch it, watch arise only if you want action, read the manga, watch the new movie and then never watch the Scarlett Johansson version ever.


Solid State Society is more of an action movie than the cerebral procedural that the rest of the franchise is. Chris Stuckman has been going through and reviewing all the movies (I don't think he reviewed SAC by itself, but he noted that the movie is a sequel to SAC) and I think he put it best in that review that the movie is best viewed as an Aliens sequel to Alien because it's more action based. It's a change of pace from the more procedural aspect that we saw in SAC, which is where I think people tend to take issue with it even though SAC had quite of bit of action in it despite some episodes that had large exposition/info dumps in them.


I'm okay with having a GitS installment being more action oriented and you can clearly see that by how I specifically recommended Arise if a more action oriented GitS is what someone is looking for. The assumption that people don't like SSS because it was different from SAC in the same way Aliens was different from Alien is an inherently flawed one because Alien fans typically love Aliens. Even the ones who don't consider it to be their favourite film in the franchise still find it to be a great film.

You seem to be missing the actual issues of why most people don't like the movie. There are parts of the dialogue that make no sense, the villain is a boring rehash of the one from the first film right down to the name (puppet master originally and now puppeteer) the fact that the plan involving the old people and the children is moronic after you think about it for more than 5 seconds, Aramaki at one point refers to wives as posessions, Togusa's daughter is missing and then she isn't a few seconds later. There are problems with scene continuity, Makoto is said to only be able to control up to 2 shells at once but yet is shown controlling 3 at once and the big ending revealed is explained earlier in the movie.

Solid State Society is a lazy mess of a film with a smorgasbord of problems, only a few of which I listed up there. Of particular note is its enthusiasm for homaging or flat out ripping off scenes from the first movie. Unlike Innocence, which reused elements from the original film to do and say something unique, Solid State Society simply rehashes its major elements from GitS 1 in a way that feels cheap, lazy and insulting. Although it's still better than the Hollywood one probably will be.
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octorockandroll wrote:

I'm okay with having a GitS installment being more action oriented and you can clearly see that by how I specifically recommended Arise if a more action oriented GitS is what someone is looking for. The assumption that people don't like SSS because it was different from SAC in the same way Aliens was different from Alien is an inherently flawed one because Alien fans typically love Aliens. Even the ones who don't consider it to be their favourite film in the franchise still find it to be a great film.

You seem to be missing the actual issues of why most people don't like the movie. There are parts of the dialogue that make no sense, the villain is a boring rehash of the one from the first film right down to the name (puppet master originally and now puppeteer) the fact that the plan involving the old people and the children is moronic after you think about it for more than 5 seconds, Aramaki at one point refers to wives as posessions, Togusa's daughter is missing and then she isn't a few seconds later. There are problems with scene continuity, Makoto is said to only be able to control up to 2 shells at once but yet is shown controlling 3 at once and the big ending revealed is explained earlier in the movie.

Solid State Society is a lazy mess of a film with a smorgasbord of problems, only a few of which I listed up there. Of particular note is its enthusiasm for homaging or flat out ripping off scenes from the first movie. Unlike Innocence, which reused elements from the original film to do and say something unique, Solid State Society simply rehashes its major elements from GitS 1 in a way that feels cheap, lazy and insulting. Although it's still better than the Hollywood one probably will be.


I never excused the films problems and I'm well aware that Solid State Society rehashes some ideas from the original film, but that's really irrelevant since they are separate iterations to begin with. And the comparison works, since your post is evidence in that regard, in fact the comparison to Aliens as a sequel to Alien is far more apt than pointing at a separate continuity which is tonally different like Arise from the rest of the franchise, especially when talking about SAC and Solid State Society.

Again, I'm well aware that the puppet master and puppeteer are extremely similar in that, and while its not an original idea, it is however new to that continuity regardless of it being new to the franchise. And the children aspect isn't really that odd when you consider that most people want to leave a legacy, an impact, and leaving something for a child is one way to do that. The IIRC, wives as possessions was a discussion between Togusa and Aramki (and I don't have the time to look at the moment) but the franchise does usually have a dialogue on a topic for a variety of reasons. Morals, equality, and the human condition are things the franchise deals with. Again I never excused the issues with the film's narrative, but there it's hard to deny that consider that the franchise has three different continuities that some rehashing or character derivations are going to happen.

All in all, you're not wrong but I think you need to look at the story in Solid State Society in regards to the continuity it's in. Otherwise you're going to get upset regardless of the franchise if it runs for any length of time, when rehashes of topics, themes, or even plots occur.
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