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Posted 3/21/17

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They seem to be reference to different movements in general, which unfortunately, is the byproduct of how these slogans were used, and for what purpose. They are not simply a case of a German taking pride in their beer or an Asian taking pride in their monorails, but racial movements and slogans (Which the wikipedia article about white pride is about, the movement). A generalization of sorts. Marcus Garvey is a far cry from Richard Spencer after all. To ignore these generalization is to ignore history.

I could very well say "We Should Make America Great Again", and I could genuinely not be a Trump Supporter, but that would be fair grounds to assume that I am a Trump Supporter because of recent history, because most people who do say this now are Trump supporters. You're looking at words, Wikipedia is looking at the phrase.

Ignoring history for semantics does not work. It ignores the semantic of the phrase itself.

The concept of having pride in a heritage for Caucasians is not inclusive of the term "White Pride" or its movement. Pride movements often mobilized because of perceived discrimination. Hence why LGBT Pride and Black Pride are more thrown around than Asian Pride and White Pride.


You are encouraging racism by clinging to the past. Here let me show you:

Black scholarships are a great thing and help... etc. They are considered to be a good thing. Same with minority scholarships. They openly discriminate against certain people but its ok because ???????.

http://blackstudents.blacknews.com/

Someone made a white scholarship, this has happened a few times, and OUTRAGE!!!! RACISM! NAZI!! WHITE SUPREMACIST!

http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=2674267

Do you notice how one group of people gets treated differently than another group of people? Do you not see the actual racism happening and progressing into the future? It's being accepted as normal.

Honestly I don't care if you have race, hair color, political view, dog lover, etc scholarships but all must be accepted or none must be accepted.


I am not clinging to the past, but acknowledging it. I think racial pride is stupid, but that does not mean I will ignore the historical connotations these terms carry. Perhaps 15 years from now, these words will be indicative of ugly, angry, and racist anti-movements. Time has happened so slowly that one might not notice it, but change is happening.

Though funny you mention it, I dislike these scholarships and how colleges do quotas, mainly because I believe that a lot of discrimination is being done to promote diversity, at the cost of white students. Public Universities should not consider race, but merits. Privates are different, and something more akin to a business of sorts. I think they are free to use voluntary quotas, but this mirrors my viewpoint on how businesses should be use race as a factor, but that it should not be mandated like affirmative action is.

I honestly do not care about these private scholarships, but I do not know the legality. I think it should be open to the academically well off and needy, but I would not enforce it on them. Their money can go to whoever they want, and I think it within their right to do so.

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"AZN pride"

God oh God no
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"AZN pride"

God oh God no


My thoughts exactly. Did people just life it off the internet?
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Posted 3/21/17

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Like it or not, that's the reality. Caucasian "heritage/culture" is diversified into our plethora of cultures by geographical locations. In the United States, we celebrate our own culture by celebrating the country that "we" founded. Just like most countries have various celebrations of their culture and heritage as a whole.


Then why not say


"Japanese" (Asians) do not necessarily have culture or heritage to call its own

Because by your logic you should approve of that statement.
Even then saying 'culture' doesn't exist is just dancing to the cultural marxist tune
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hWYgPDVX_8


The same could apply to Asians, because not all Asians are Japanese. Nor Chinese. Nor Laotian. National Ethnicity is a lot more specific than "race" or continental origins.


The temples of Ankgor Wat are different than those devoted to Shintoism in Japan.

In a sense, most people here celebrate their Americanism and their national ethnicity. It is not one or the other.


Asians do have a culture of focusing on the group and not on the individual as well as the importance of tradition. Europeans Have a culture of focusing on the individual and not the group as well as fuck tradition.

Ankgor wat was made by ALIENS!!! I had to...
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Like I said - Caucasians generally do not have a "unified culture".


Western culture.

Its hard to see it because its the dominant culture in the world, but yeah I'd say western culture is a unifying, white culture built and maintained by whites.


Because the West is overwhelmingly white, and whites were responsible for all of modern western culture. I consider Western to be huge. The concept of freedom and civil liberties might not have arisen if blacks did not greatly contribute to their own racial movements, or the acceptance of other groups, which were often propelled by those minorities, if we are getting into the idea of "western" tolerance. This all depends on how far you want to go back, with the last 100 years showing huge improvements, but it is pretty vague, considering that westerners are not limited to white folks, nor is it a complete melting pot anymore than Eastern culture at this point. (Maybe more so for westerners)


In any case, the last tagline seems to border on the "no true scotsman's fallacy". I disagree with your definition of western culture. Whose to say the Blacks or Gays or Asians or Hispanics are not contributing or maintaining it, or rather changing it, especially in the face of widespread acceptance and tolerance?

In any case, having different cultural heritages does not mean you do not contribute to that of a large section of Society that compromises half a hemisphere, encompassing many nations and many different people.



The concept of freedom and civil liberties came from greek and roman philosophers which was revived by the renaissance and put into practice by the founding of America. Learn your history ffs.
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I'm gonna be honest here. I am NOT and never will be proud of being African-American or just American. I'm barely even proud to be human half the time and I am not proud of myself. I guess I don't have any pride in myself.


You should have pride in yourself. It took millions of years of evolution to create you. Your family survived life itself to arrive where you are now. You should try feeling pride in being an American it's a really great feeling. You can do anything you want you just have to have confidence and be willing to not have instant success.

Idk if you are Trump supporter or not but we have a 24/7 America FUCK YEAH party going on over at the_donald: https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/
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qualeshia3 wrote:

I'm gonna be honest here. I am NOT and never will be proud of being African-American or just American. I'm barely even proud to be human half the time and I am not proud of myself. I guess I don't have any pride in myself.


You should have pride in yourself. It took millions of years of evolution to create you. Your family survived life itself to arrive where you are now. You should try feeling pride in being an American it's a really great feeling. You can do anything you want you just have to have confidence and be willing to not have instant success.

Idk if you are Trump supporter or not but we have a 24/7 America FUCK YEAH party going on over at the_donald: https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/


I am not quite sure. I would say confidence begins with your abilities, your accomplishment ending with pride. Hence why racial pride is stupid. I just turned out to be born a Vietnamese. It is not something to be ashamed of when idiots like Tila Tequila do atrociously stupid things, but the temples of Angkor Wat, or Pho, I do not see why I should be proud. I like those things, but just as it is nonsensical to be ashamed of whose one's fathers and forefathers were, or the lesser aspects of one's culture, I do not see any sense in being proud of them.
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When you beat a game on hard mode, you get to take pride in it and brag about it.

When you beat a game on easy mode, you can make a post like the OP, and we will pat your head and give you an internet cookie.

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When you beat a game on hard mode, you get to take pride in it and brag about it.

When you beat a game on easy mode, you can make a post like the OP, and we will pat your head and give you an internet cookie.



I do not think you should be so condescending, unless you want to get banned or warned like previous offenses. If you are stressed out, I recommend Gabriel Dropout. Satania is the best waifu.
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goodman528 wrote:

When you beat a game on hard mode, you get to take pride in it and brag about it.

When you beat a game on easy mode, you can make a post like the OP, and we will pat your head and give you an internet cookie.



I do not think you should be so condescending, unless you want to get banned or warned like previous offenses. If you are stressed out, I recommend Gabriel Dropout. Satania is the best waifu.



Did you get trigger? Do you think OP will get triggered? Should I have issued a trigger warning first? My bad, I didn't realize free speech was already dead.
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Well, white people weren't ever really oppressed, they were always the oppressors. So really, there's no real reason for a white person to chant "I'm proud of being white!" because there's not really a reason not to be. Thats the same reason why there's no "white history month", because white history is well... all year round. Its not that white people should be ashamed of their history, but maybe instead of chanting "I'm white and I'm proud!" maybe you should be supporting the other races and respecting them and applauding them for being able to accept themselves and their history. Let them have their moment... they never had it in the past.
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Well, white people weren't ever really oppressed, they were always the oppressors. So really, there's no real reason for a white person to chant "I'm proud of being white!" because there's not really a reason not to be. Thats the same reason why there's no "white history month", because white history is well... all year round. Its not that white people should be ashamed of their history, but maybe instead of chanting "I'm white and I'm proud!" maybe you should be supporting the other races and respecting them and applauding them for being able to accept themselves and their history. Let them have their moment... they never had it in the past.


Inb4 someone has a soliloquy about how white people are oppressed right now because some randy said we sucked on tumblr.
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