First  Prev  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  10  11  Next  Last
Post Reply Terror in Europe and what's (not) been done about it
21545 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
Offline
Posted 3/23/17
Causes of death you should be scared about:
Drunk driving (~10k per year)
Choking on cabbage (~5k per year)
Struck by lightning (~50 per year)

Causes of death you shouldn't be scared about:
Terrorism by non white people (~25 per year) *


* Terrorist deaths by white perpentrators are categorized as victims of mass shootings. In such cases it is obvious the religion and race of the perpentrator has nothing to do with the shooting incident. As the judge in the Dylan Roof case correctly pointed out, Roof did what he did because he was a very disturbed individual, and his actions in no way reflects his community. Whereas we all know all muslims are terroists and they all want to destroy America and freedom, although some, I assume, some, are good people.
Posted 3/23/17 , edited 3/23/17

SandyNewt wrote:



Maybe it's best to prevent some people from being able to legally obtain ways to kill others easily be it gun, car or knife depending on the severity of the danger they seem willing to go to. Heavy machinery is a very dangerous thing that's why you have various different licenses guns should be handled the same along with knives and swords. It's not so much to take freedom away from them as it is to compromise part of their freedom to protect others around them sure they'll use illegal means before that argument arises and there is no real way to combat that effectively but there is no need to make it easy for people who have shown the consideration to kill people particularly on mass to carry it out if you have evidence to show they intend to do these things why shouldn't some of the rights be removed from them and some rights doesn't mean torturing them is acceptable innocents should be protected but it can't turn in to a witch hunt either sure it will be very hard to do but careful steps should be taken not to make normal peoples lives hard and condemn average people who aren't actually contemplating slaughtering people. I'm not saying I have the answers I just couldn't not say anything after you said " If you're going to do away with the Bill of Rights, you may as well just have them locked up and water boarded in an off shore prison." because to me that's quite a jump to make in my opinion... sorry if I caused offence but it's better regretting the things you said than the things you never in my opinion leading to this lengthy message.


I don't believe the driver of the Nice, France truck had a license to drive it, or a license for the gun he had, though I don't think it caused any deaths. Nor did the Christmas Market attacker, who used a small caliber pistol and a knife to hijack the truck he used in his attack.
The only way to keep someone from stealing a truck or other vehicle, or to keep them from making/buying a gun is to have them locked up, dead or not in your country in the first place.

17430 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
22 / M
Offline
Posted 3/23/17

Amyas_Leigh wrote:


SandyNewt wrote:



Maybe it's best to prevent some people from being able to legally obtain ways to kill others easily be it gun, car or knife depending on the severity of the danger they seem willing to go to. Heavy machinery is a very dangerous thing that's why you have various different licenses guns should be handled the same along with knives and swords. It's not so much to take freedom away from them as it is to compromise part of their freedom to protect others around them sure they'll use illegal means before that argument arises and there is no real way to combat that effectively but there is no need to make it easy for people who have shown the consideration to kill people particularly on mass to carry it out if you have evidence to show they intend to do these things why shouldn't some of the rights be removed from them and some rights doesn't mean torturing them is acceptable innocents should be protected but it can't turn in to a witch hunt either sure it will be very hard to do but careful steps should be taken not to make normal peoples lives hard and condemn average people who aren't actually contemplating slaughtering people. I'm not saying I have the answers I just couldn't not say anything after you said " If you're going to do away with the Bill of Rights, you may as well just have them locked up and water boarded in an off shore prison." because to me that's quite a jump to make in my opinion... sorry if I caused offence but it's better regretting the things you said than the things you never in my opinion leading to this lengthy message.


I don't believe the driver of the Nice, France truck had a license to drive it, or a license for the gun he had, though I don't think it caused any deaths. Nor did the Christmas Market attacker, who used a small caliber pistol and a knife to hijack the truck he used in his attack.
The only way to keep someone from stealing a truck or other vehicle, or to keep them from making/buying a gun is to have them locked up, dead or not in your country in the first place.



As I said before the argument of illegal means arises you can't really combat it. Some people who show intent on mass loss of life are born and raised in the country it happens in all you can really do is notice when they are contemplating it (which is easier said than done) and try to prevent it happening.
Posted 3/23/17

goodman528 wrote:

Causes of death you should be scared about:
Drunk driving (~10k per year)
Choking on cabbage (~5k per year)
Struck by lightning (~50 per year)

Causes of death you shouldn't be scared about:
Terrorism by non white people (~25 per year) *


* Terrorist deaths by white perpentrators are categorized as victims of mass shootings. In such cases it is obvious the religion and race of the perpentrator has nothing to do with the shooting incident. As the judge in the Dylan Roof case correctly pointed out, Roof did what he did because he was a very disturbed individual, and his actions in no way reflects his community..


That's in the US right?
We should want to keep it that way and not import it.
http://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/

"You're more likely to die from X that means you should increase your chance to die from Y what are you a bigot?"

I don't think I've seen a terror attack by a white person not get called a 'terror attack'. Dylan Roof was a terrorist. That anti abortion 'warrior for the babies' guy was a terrorist. They were because it was politically motivated. Also it can be a terror attack and a mass shooting at the same time.


although some, I assume, some, are good people.


Got me there
21545 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
Offline
Posted 3/23/17 , edited 3/24/17

Amyas_Leigh wrote:


goodman528 wrote:

Causes of death you should be scared about:
Drunk driving (~10k per year)
Choking on cabbage (~5k per year)
Struck by lightning (~50 per year)

Causes of death you shouldn't be scared about:
Terrorism by non white people (~25 per year) *


* Terrorist deaths by white perpentrators are categorized as victims of mass shootings. In such cases it is obvious the religion and race of the perpentrator has nothing to do with the shooting incident. As the judge in the Dylan Roof case correctly pointed out, Roof did what he did because he was a very disturbed individual, and his actions in no way reflects his community..


That's in the US right?
We should want to keep it that way and not import it.
http://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/

"You're more likely to die from X that means you should increase your chance to die from Y what are you a bigot?"

I don't think I've seen a terror attack by a white person not get called a 'terror attack'. Dylan Roof was a terrorist. That anti abortion 'warrior for the babies' guy was a terrorist. They were because it was politically motivated. Also it can be a terror attack and a mass shooting at the same time.


although some, I assume, some, are good people.


Got me there



In case the logic was lost on you. It is this:

If you want to reduce your risk of death, you should focus your time and efforts on causes of death that are the most likely. On the risk of death scale, Terrorism by non-white people in white majority countries (i.e. not including mass shootings comitted by white perpetrators), as a cause of death, it is neglegible.

For people who do not understand abstract concepts like this. The easiest way to explain this is: Compare your health insurance cost vs your life insurance cost when you buy life insurance that ONLY covers acts of terrorism. Which costs more?
17430 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
22 / M
Offline
Posted 3/23/17

goodman528 wrote:

Causes of death you should be scared about:
Drunk driving (~10k per year)
Choking on cabbage (~5k per year)
Struck by lightning (~50 per year)

Causes of death you shouldn't be scared about:
Terrorism by non white people (~25 per year) *


* Terrorist deaths by white perpentrators are categorized as victims of mass shootings. In such cases it is obvious the religion and race of the perpentrator has nothing to do with the shooting incident. As the judge in the Dylan Roof case correctly pointed out, Roof did what he did because he was a very disturbed individual, and his actions in no way reflects his community. Whereas we all know all muslims are terroists and they all want to destroy America and freedom, although some, I assume, some, are good people.


White people have been considered terrorists though the IRA have had members as well as other groups charge and convicted of terrorism.
Posted 3/23/17

goodman528 wrote:






If you want to reduce your risk of death,


What if I just want to reduce the number of islamic terror attacks?
21545 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
Offline
Posted 3/23/17

Amyas_Leigh wrote:


goodman528 wrote:






If you want to reduce your risk of death,


What if I just want to reduce the number of islamic terror attacks?



Then you got to ask yourself why do you want to waste your energy on such a small risk when you could be spending your energy on mitigating much more dangerous risks.

Maybe you own millions of $ of shares in Haliburton or ArmaLite, in which case fair enough. Otherwise, what the fk are you doing?
Posted 3/23/17

goodman528 wrote:
Then you got to ask yourself why do you want to waste your energy on such a small risk




The risk will only grow if EU immigration policies remain the same and people like Mama Merkel carry so much clout.



21545 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
Offline
Posted 3/23/17 , edited 3/24/17

Amyas_Leigh wrote:


goodman528 wrote:
Then you got to ask yourself why do you want to waste your energy on such a small risk




The risk will only grow if EU immigration policies remain the same and people like Mama Merkel carry so much clout.






There are 2 types of people who oppose immigration:

Type 1: Wealthy property owners who are afraid the influx of poor non-white people into the area will negatively affect property prices in the area. This is rational and justifiable, because white / non-white is a very good visual indicator of wealth, and rich people will always want to live with other rich people and get as far away from poor people as possible.

Type 2: People who don't understand the concept of risk, and don't understand economics.

Which type are you?
Posted 3/23/17 , edited 3/23/17

goodman528 wrote:

and definitely too stupid to understand economics.



A nation does not have to rely on an infinite amount of foreign, low wage, low skill workers to survive.
Maybe if you want to support the 1% and their wealth, then replacing the native population doesn't matter.
Posted 3/23/17
I think not enough is being done sure there will always be some [nut case]
but what is wrong with being preventative.
Posted 3/23/17 , edited 3/23/17

octorockandroll wrote:

So it's number 2, eh Boxer?



Saying 'there are only two kinds of people against immigration' is a false statement. I'm sure most people have varying reasons for being pro or anti immigration.


11419 cr points
Send Message: Send PM GB Post
20 / M / Winnipeg, MB.
Offline
Posted 3/23/17

Amyas_Leigh wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:

So it's number 2, eh Boxer?



Saying 'there are only two kinds of people against immigration' is a false statement. I'm sure most people have varying reasons for being pro or anti immigration.




I'm not saying I agree with Goodman's generalization, but I do agree that from what I've seen of your posts you seem to fit into the latter category.
First  Prev  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  10  11  Next  Last
You must be logged in to post.