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Terror in Europe and what's (not) been done about it
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Might not have had a license but him not having access to one makes the whole initial try harder as it involves stealing or using The black market.

Sure a criminal will still get what they want but making it harder for them is good






Does getting things from the black market or stealing, really make it harder for them to get? Stealing a car is far easier than going out and buying one I'm pretty sure. Tons of them are just sitting out there waiting to be stolen! Actually have to work to go buy one. Same for guns, though less so in countries where they are so called banned. People will still get them, and I doubt with much hassle if they have the money. Kind of like drugs here. Pot before it was basically legalized everywhere, was still smoked by whoever wanted it. Half of my coworkers at taco bell smoked it, which was long before it wasn't a crime to do so.They got their hands on pot and other drugs easily enough, couldn't just go to walgreens or walmart to get...
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likenew wrote:




Might not have had a license but him not having access to one makes the whole initial try harder as it involves stealing or using The black market.

Sure a criminal will still get what they want but making it harder for them is good


Does getting things from the black market or stealing, really make it harder for them to get? Stealing a car is far easier than going out and buying one I'm pretty sure. Tons of them are just sitting out there waiting to be stolen! Actually have to work to go buy one. Same for guns, though less so in countries where they are so called banned. People will still get them, and I doubt with much hassle if they have the money. Kind of like drugs here. Pot before it was basically legalized everywhere, was still smoked by whoever wanted it. Half of my coworkers at taco bell smoked it, which was long before it wasn't a crime to do so.They got their hands on pot and other drugs easily enough, couldn't just go to walgreens or walmart to get...


Well yeah unless you know how to steal a car (unless they keys are in it) good luck you will need to do a lot of research

Guns are hard to come by to steal when people take care of them so they need to resort to black market.

The issue here is some people take bad care of their property even so some people shouldn't have access to those things legally.

If I wanted to steal a gun I wouldn't be able to in a million years everyone here keeps their guns locked up in safes.
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ImDivinity wrote:

jeez mate you still here apologizing to muslims for killing innocent Europeans and feeling bad about poor immigrants???
if you hate your own people so bad just go over to africa or the middle east and see how tolerant and peace loving all these poor immigrants you love so much really are.


I don't know that I would describe a 2 month old conversation with words like "still" but I'm also mot "apologising to muslims" or "hating my own people" so I'll just let you try to live out whatever fantasy justifies your hatred of people different than you.
Posted 5/23/17


So the terror threat in Britain has been raised to 'critical', meaning an attack is imminent. I wonder if maybe now they will, idk, take a peek at other extremists on their watchlists?

Here's hoping
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/manchester-bombing-critical-terrorist-threat-theresa-may-upgrades-from-severe-latest-news-a7752336.html


https://www.mi5.gov.uk/threat-levels

Stay safe bongs
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Hungary did an awesome job, they have border fences with barbed wire and electrical fences. And the border guards make sure the so called "refugees" don't try to invade. If other European countries did the same thing as Hungary, it would be awesome.
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Diversity + Proximity = War.

In the end the Europeans, British and Americans will all be forced to choose between submitting without question to Sharia Law or deporting ALL the muslims (including those born in their countries) back to their homelands.

These terrorists attacks are just the opening salvo's of the hot stages of the Islamic conquest of Europe.
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TheZaphod wrote:
In the end the Europeans, British and Americans will all be forced to choose between submitting without question to Sharia Law or deporting ALL the muslims (including those born in their countries) back to their homelands.

These terrorists attacks are just the opening salvo's of the hot stages of the Islamic conquest of Europe.


Only a fool would genuinely believe that so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume trolling?



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I like how governments always warn you after the attack happens.


It's really not that helpful when most the time after a terrorist attack, mass shooting, etc the media can take a look at the suspect for 24 hours and come up with enough of a social media footprint for any random person on the street to look at and say "Wow, okay, how was this person not under surveillance or in a psyche ward?"

Google knows what you've had for breakfast every day for the last 6 months and Facebook probably knows your pet name for your own genitals. But we can't harness that technology to figure out that a dude with a 400 page Facebook manifest and an Daesh flag for his Twitter avatar might be worth keeping an eye on?

It seems profoundly weird that we have more sophisticated tech for tracking someone's latte preferences than we do figuring out who's radicalized or bought body armour the day after posting a manifesto.

I mean, at this point all we need to do to defeat ISIS is get someone to convince them they can make some extra money by serving banner ads on their websites. We would know where they all live, who their entire social circle is and what kind of porn they like by the end of the week.

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This also won't be the last time we have a terror attack it is becoming all to common..
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MysticGon wrote:

I like how governments always warn you after the attack happens.


They are like the local police, who will come after the crime/act/attack has been done. The rise of domestic terrorists didn't make thing any easier

This is the world we live in. We, the people, have to be vigilant. If you see something say something !!

Safety and security will start with you..

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MysteryMiss wrote:

This also won't be the last time we have a terror attack it is becoming all to common..


It really isn't. It just seems that way because we live in a world of 24/7 screeching ratings bait media. Fear sells. Economically and politically.

This isn't even remotely close to the historical peaks of terrorism in Europe.
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runec wrote:


MysteryMiss wrote:

This also won't be the last time we have a terror attack it is becoming all to common..


It really isn't. It just seems that way because we live in a world of 24/7 screeching ratings bait media. Fear sells. Economically and politically.

This isn't even remotely close to the historical peaks of terrorism in Europe.


Oh my god, someone else actually brought this up for once. Yes, muslim terrorism is a massive problem but there have been many other such problems in the past and none warranted discriminatory and dehumanizing conduct some critics of the UK's policy advocate for. I mean I'm pretty damn sure Irish terrorism did just as much, if not more, of a number on the UK as islamic terrorism. You may also notice the Irish were not blanketly booted from the UK, too.
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There was much more aggressive action against the IRA than against ISIS in Europe now. Even though so many are known to various intelligence services and come from high risk areas that have been allowed to fester.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2013/11/21/ira-british-army_n_4314960.html
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SSDD, same shit, different day.
Move along folks, it's the same old song and dance, nothing new to see here.
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