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Is murder ever justified?
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Yes, murder can be justified (self-defence, protection and such) but it will still be murder.
You kill someone you become a murderer, you can label it self defence or justified if you feel like it but that doesn't change the fact that you're still a murderer; you took a life.
I’m not saying you should be punished, you shouldn’t, but you’re still a murderer.
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There are some people who walk this earth who do not deserve to breath the same air as me. Period. If they died, either by my hand or another, I would not be sad nor miss them.
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If the person is really evil and deserves to die.
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eclair-lumiere wrote:

If the person is really evil and deserves to die.


o.0 You're mean. Nobody deserves to die.
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Actually you are right. Good people deserve to live. Bad people deserve to be tortured. Death would be too quick.
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eclair-lumiere wrote:



Actually you are right. Good people deserve to live. Bad people deserve to be tortured. Death would be too quick.


Mieeeh, mieeeeeeeh That's mean too... I can't say I disagree completely though...
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It shouldn't be. If that is in purpose and selfish reasons.
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Only murders I commit can be justified.
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Watch Death Note, and you'll see what I believe. You can choose for yourself.
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My dad's a cop and was telling me the other day about how, in Illinois, a cop can kill a person in self defense but if anyone else does, they'll get in trouble? -_-" I think there's more to it then he let on, but based on what I know right now, I don't get why that is. A cop's life isn't necessarily more important than your average citizen's - I mean, what about the ones secretly INVOLVED in crime themselves? I think if they can do it, so should everyone else - or maybe no one should, including the cops. If they have a right to try and protect themselves that way, I think everyone else should, also. After all, cops are not always there in the heat of a crisis. Who else is going to save you?
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My dad's a cop and was telling me the other day about how, in Illinois, a cop can kill a person in self defense but if anyone else does, they'll get in trouble? -_-" I think there's more to it then he let on, but based on what I know right now, I don't get why that is. A cop's life isn't necessarily more important than your average citizen's - I mean, what about the ones secretly INVOLVED in crime themselves? I think if they can do it, so should everyone else - or maybe no one should, including the cops. If they have a right to try and protect themselves that way, I think everyone else should, also. After all, cops are not always there in the heat of a crisis. Who else is going to save you?


I always thought cop's get away with a lot more stuff than normal people do, because the other cops and law enforcement watch each other's back. Cop speeds a little while off duty? Let him off. Kill a man accidental? Not that bad. Don't want to make a big deal out of it, otherwise they would look bad.
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Lycanthrope wrote:

Yes, murder can be justified (self-defence, protection and such) but it will still be murder.
You kill someone you become a murderer, you can label it self defence or justified if you feel like it but that doesn't change the fact that you're still a murderer; you took a life.
I’m not saying you should be punished, you shouldn’t, but you’re still a murderer.


In the eyes of the law (English law at any rate), this isn't true. Murder is an unlawful taking of a life, so killing someone in self-defense is not murder as it would be allowable under the law, as long as you only use reasonable force.

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Mafouka wrote:

My dad's a cop and was telling me the other day about how, in Illinois, a cop can kill a person in self defense but if anyone else does, they'll get in trouble? -_-" I think there's more to it then he let on, but based on what I know right now, I don't get why that is. A cop's life isn't necessarily more important than your average citizen's - I mean, what about the ones secretly INVOLVED in crime themselves? I think if they can do it, so should everyone else - or maybe no one should, including the cops. If they have a right to try and protect themselves that way, I think everyone else should, also. After all, cops are not always there in the heat of a crisis. Who else is going to save you?


I always thought cop's get away with a lot more stuff than normal people do, because the other cops and law enforcement watch each other's back. Cop speeds a little while off duty? Let him off. Kill a man accidental? Not that bad. Don't want to make a big deal out of it, otherwise they would look bad.


I'm not really supposed to be saying this, but my dad speeds all the time because he knows he won't get in trouble. =_= And this is a bit more extreme - I don't think your average cop would kill someone just for the hell of it, and somehow back up his story that it was in self defense - but it COULD happen, and that's why I think it's completely unfair. I know a cop who's slashed someone's tires. Shit happens.
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To me murder can only be justified by the person itself, but he or she must be ready to face the consequences. That's all there is to it.
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If a burglar attacked me in my home I'd subdue him no questions asked, and if I kill him in the process then I don't expect to be punished. You can be sued by burglars for attacking them in self defense which is just plain fucking wrong!

I'd go vigilante if a member of my family was murdered since I don't believe in the justice system at all. Most murderers get like 10 years....what is that? 10 years of being in a cell and playing pool with other weirdos becoming even more fucked up in the head.
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