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Is murder ever justified?
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Posted 7/12/07

chilli123 wrote:

not even in self defence? or to defend a loved one? maybe the word 'murder' is too strong but it is legal now, well in london to kill someone in self defence if they are intruding on your property posing a threat.

I think thats the only time it is justified.........I mean you can't get arrested for someone threatening to kill you and you killing them first right,but if you can avoid killing them and just hurt them or whatever then that would be your best bet.
Posted 7/12/07
Murder is never ok to commit..with that said...it happens...get he fuck over it


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Deidara and maybe Kyocool have joined the fight! RAWR. >:3.. But I'm going to go, I've been on waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too long. (This is so you don't direct stuff at me and expect an immediate answer lol.) But even if the law says you can, doesn't mean it's right to do.
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^^ I didn't finish because I was saying an example. I did say "I think," didn't I?

Try to stop murder for all you want because it won't happen.
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@Hokie:

Yeah, that's true. There's a girl at my school who sleeps with all sorts of guys. (I know this isn't gossip because she's told me herself and tried to get with me) Then she gets molested (or so she says) and freaks out. My foot. She doesn't care she just wants drama. Would’ve slept with the guy if he had just asked anyway…
Posted 7/12/07

aznrice2k4 wrote:

^^ I didn't finish because I was saying an example. I did say "I think," didn't I?

Try to stop murder for all you want because it won't happen.



Hoepfully no one said they can stop murder...but not being able to stop it doesnt mean its right

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@Az:
Alright, this is getting nowhere. You’re being a narrow-minded child. *Sigh* I wash my hands of this. Goodbye.
@Trevor: He's talking to me. I said murder can't be stopped but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try.
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HokiePokie wrote:


abel89 wrote:


HokiePokie wrote:





if I catch somebody breaking into my house, and I don't why they there, I'm gonna take my pistol and aim it at his head, and ask him what is he doing in my house, and if I don't like the anwser, he better pray to his god that I forgot to load that pistol, and I wouldn't get in any trouble for it, this is the south, you don't sneak onto another man's property and NOT, expect to leave in the coroner's van

once my grandfather beat a man to death for doing just that, and he didn't get in any trouble, he didn't even have to go to the police station


I agree on you pointing at his head. But you should also warn him to get out too, if you're going to ask his motive... but your grandfather was overreacting. Even if the law protects him, I find it wrong to kill someone for just breaking into your house. True you can beat them up... badly.. but never kill them. What the hell are you thinking? They're still a person and if you want to try to look like "the man" you can go ahead and kill the dude for just breaking into your house (yes, I said JUST breaking into your house), just know you were the one being the ass hat, even if he was the one to break in.


Yeah, but I'd be the alive ass hat, people these days are crazy, they'll kill you for catchin' them break into your house, I once knew a kid who killed an 80 year old woman for catching him, so my grandfather didn't overreact,

Back to people being crazy these days, the only solution to that is, be crazier than the motherfucker who's out for you or your stuff, my family has a reputation for being able to "out crazy" anybody, (that includes me)

That buglar I'd kill would be the last to ever break into my house, because the word on the street would be, "homeboy killed a dude just for breaking into his house"


So you kill someone just to get the "tough guy" message going around just so people don't go try to take your cash (even though it's probably already a low chance?) That's even worse of a reason to kill someone. You can threaten to shoot them to get out of your house, but kill them right away without warning? Seriously wrong. And if you want people to not rob your house, DON'T LIVE IN A BAD NEIGHBORHOOD.


No, to get the "crazy" message out, people will challenge a tough guy, no one would dare challenge a crazy person, besides it's better than hunting them down afterward, like my dad did once, and if someone is in my home in the middle of the night for no apperant reason, I'll just assume the worst, that he's out to kill my family in their sleep, because common sense would tell him to sneak in when we're out somewhere else
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Did u see MTV's what that show called where they have juvinelle kids plead their cases on tv... in one episode they had a case where a girl with a knife stabbed a girl in the back multiple times and a third party (her sister) came to her rescue and f***ed up the attacker, and the sister and the erson who got attacked both recieved punishment while the attacker got NOTHING is that FAIR???? In Indiana where the case took place, a third party can intervine and kill if necessary the attacker attacking a person.... so i dont get how the girls lost their case, while the attacker got charged with NOTHING

If my friend or family member is getting attacked by some1 u kick their @s$, and ask questions later...
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Posted 7/12/07

chilli123 wrote:

what about in revenge?


hmm it doesnt matter its still murder. :/

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kyocool wrote:


aznrice2k4 wrote:

^^ I didn't finish because I was saying an example. I did say "I think," didn't I?

Try to stop murder for all you want because it won't happen.



Hoepfully no one said they can stop murder...but not being able to stop it doesnt mean its right

Trevor (OP)



Yes, they only thing we can do is to prevent it. But as humans, we have our limits.

@Seraph, No, it's not being narrow-minded because it's reality. Sure, it would be nice, but it's certainly not possible.
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hmm maybe we should use the PreCogs more ;p
Posted 7/12/07

abel89 wrote:
no one would dare challenge a crazy person,



Lulz are you serious!?!?! 99% of the time people who deem themselves "Crazy" are really just rambling beliggerant attention whores
..thats nothing to be fearful of


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Posted 7/12/07
How about self defense and in the process you accidentally kill the person... that should be pretty justified if I say so my self.
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Posted 7/12/07

kyocool wrote:


abel89 wrote:
no one would dare challenge a crazy person,



Lulz are you serious!?!?! 99% of the time people who deem themselves "Crazy" are really just rambling beliggerant attention whores
..thats nothing to be fearful of


Trevor (OP)


I don't deem myself crazy to prove it, I stay quiet and introvert until someone fucks with me and goes too far, then I go off letting years of suppressed rage on that person's ass
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