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Since there is a lot of political discussion related to Trump and some of those debaters are Trump's core supporters, I should provide a background of the rural activists that is the core supporters of Trump. The rural communities in United States has form activist groups for local rural interest in response to poverty and government negate from the globalization of the economy. The jobs in the rural communities had become very scare and those that are available are low-paying and seasonal. Many rural residents do not have the money to move out of their community which trap them in poverty. The rural activists are the core members of the social conservative faction that control the Republican Party during the year of 2016. The rural residents live in remote communities which prevent them from forming a cohesive political organization for decades but they now seem to manage enough political organization.

The US rural activists do not understand the importance of the intellectual work due to their highly individualistic worldview which contrasts with the East Asian collectivist worldview. Office work is needed to coordinate the workers and ensure harmonious relation between members of society especially when there is too little resource for each people. Globalization has resulted in increased economic integration which make independent living more undesirable.

This individualistic worldview prevent them from understanding how Capitalism turn against them. Capitalism do not work like it does in the past where the low population density allows enough resource for the independent living by every European Americans; the population growth from immigration has resulted in low resource per people so an official government is needed to make better management of limited resource.

The rural people blame the political elites in the metropolitan cities for the joblessness and perceived negate of their community. They should know that the poverty and joblessness is due to the conspiracy of the invisible hand, which expand its influence into the global scale, and not due to a single government conspiracy. The metropolitan has an economic dependency on the rural communities for raw materials but the raw materials can be obtained from the third world where there is weak legal protection of both environment and human right.

The rural activists claim that resource goes from the rural to the metropolitan and that the authority goes from the metropolitan to the rural. They should know that this unequal political relation is due to Capitalism where the government can only gain its power from the economic elites and not to the losers of the global economy. The Native American communities in the native reserve and the third world suffer more devastation from the globalization of the economy than the US rural communities; the US rural people should be glad that they do not suffer to the same extent as the Native Americans nor the third world citizen and that they do not drop toward the third world living standard.
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...SHAM-POOOO!! (bashes face-first into telephone pole)
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The Question is, how many pills can i take before my brain goes supernova?
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sinoakayumi wrote:
The US rural activists do not understand the importance of the intellectual work due to their highly individualistic worldview which contrasts with the East Asian collectivist worldview.


Too many divergent threads, though some of what you say does make some sense. But this statement is charged, hyperbolic, and unfounded. Have you been to rural America? People might not trust "experts" about this or that thing, but I've never encountered anyone who doesn't think positively of getting a college education. People understand that education brings job opportunities - and creates jobs for the community. Further, rural America is where I (a Chinese person) grew up - as did many of my fellow Ph. D. students in physics. And my family is lower middle-class.

Further, your statement contradicts the story I get from my fellow graduate students studying abroad from China: they say students who go into academia are criticized and shunned by their families for choosing non-lucrative careers - indeed, that people there are now obsessed with money and don't care for intellectual pursuits for their own sake. I don't know how prevalent that is, but I believe my friends when they say it's a thing that happens. From my own knowledge this doesn't seem surprising, but I wouldn't go from that to saying that, because some don't like academia for its own sake, Chinese people "do not understand the importance of [...] intellectual work." Because that would be an unfair overreach.
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Posted 3/26/17
What was the saying?

It pays to be insane, but the sane keep on working.

Everywhere you look people are either on the floor, or trapped with no escape . In a way I look at this as something to remind myself; that even if I'm working on anything in my life, as long as I can do it for myself, others will soon follow.

As long as we can consider doing something for the sake of others....... who gets paid for that? I thought life was about direction, not absolution. Maybe we forget sometimes, that the opposite way around is no different than the other, it only makes an impact when both can collide for good.
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Your insinuations and assumptions make it difficult to respond civilly, though my opinion is strongly in line to what auroraloose has said; I question your seeming disdain. Also, the struggles of others do not negate issues faced by another. Constantly asserting "someone has it worse, so don't complain" has an unfortunate trend of instilling stagnancy after a while. Nothing would get done, should we constantly entertain contests of who's most miserable. Plenty of things need worked on and it's got to start somewhere. With everyone wanting first dibs, it seems like many would rather fight than take turns.
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We are perfectly fine.

Politically, the same struggle has been happening ever since the last major change in genetic evolution that can be known as fall of babel. Another way to perceive this through the babbling that occurs after we are left attempting to understand wtf just happened, is catch up to your new state of consciousness in a constantly evolving you as reality.

Politics derive from humanity deriving from soul and the further you go in understanding the way words got to this point the more you heal and understanding all possibilities that have been made to catch up to your always present way while still being able to talk about this.

We are all the same and this is what is happening right now.

Humanity has been confronting itself for decades now of prophecies coming true but not as individuals are choosing to decide for themselves all that is. Political struggles between east and west differs from the beginning of those that sought to rule everyone and those that sought to free themselves. Socialism comes from those that accept rule and liberty comes by those that are attempting to understand another version of rule that can be more sensitive. Humans on this planet are deciding from all they have heard or their own choices. There is about to be another fall and rise of collective change.

After the first yoke of words taking hold upon those that became this planet, we reset and continually reset in a spiritual fall until nothing is left to reset.

East is east but really only because some individuals got stuck on perceivable bloodlines as being the determining everything about who's the best. We're all the best, perception is the individual's choice. Collectively, we have been making more possibilities just by being here, contributing to everything, way before blood is. While blood relates to involvement with more individuals, individuals don't have to have blood to be. Humanity's perception is stuck on denial in controlling your death, defining ourselves is the foundation to making this possible. Self-choosing your definition is the only way to not misunderstand death.

The way we work is simple, for all that is possible we can do instantly all. Anything you're working on is in the process of becoming forever known as a moment of perfectual release of your own pursuits in a way that consciously stimulates all of us in the way that has always been happening plus all new ways we've made.

Get stuck on group thought and thinking that activists that band together are controlling everything or the unifying decision that overcomes the trend of collapsing institutions. Any moment of bias forces us to become denser in physicality as well as thinking. Masses of humans are now recognizing extreme prejudice of others that forces them to reflect and decide for themselves. More/another babylon is falling, as a whole planet.

Going to be fun as we all decide more. Once we make those decisions we've been denying are in our control, everything is already the next upgrade/form of collective and individual reality.
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You would have to be a complete idiot to support Trump at this point. This is coming from someone who is republican also.
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Cardamom_Ginger wrote:

Your insinuations and assumptions make it difficult to respond civilly, though my opinion is strongly in line to what auroraloose has said; I question your seeming disdain.


Well, Auroraloose said she was also Chinese, but actually living in this country--
And therefore a little more directly qualified to question Sinoakayumi's latest attempt to hold up Mao's Little Red Book and sing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mtMI_huRtY while trying to make us think she understood the "true meanings" of anime, Trump, US economic/political news headlines, or whatever she tries to download from the Western Internet as a cheap nonsensical topic tie-in to preach on our forum street corner THIS week.

(Y'know, I try to be internationally tolerant, so I don't really like the idea of just tossing off Warcraft and Transformer-movie jokes as a cheap dismissive Sinophobic knee-jerk default gag, in the same way we always toss off Jerry Lewis jokes about France, David Hasselhoff jokes about Germany or Yahoo Serious jokes about Australia...
But boyyy, does China keep asking for 'em--And in Sino's case, begging for them. LOUDLY. )
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sinoakayumi wrote:
The rural people blame the political elites in the metropolitan cities for the joblessness and perceived negate of their community. They should know that the poverty and joblessness is due to the conspiracy of the invisible hand, which expand its influence into the global scale, and not due to a single government conspiracy. The metropolitan has an economic dependency on the rural communities for raw materials but the raw materials can be obtained from the third world where there is weak legal protection of both environment and human right.


I think it's common knowledge among the "rural people" that they have an undeveloped economy but are forced to play by the rules of a developed country, which makes it impossible to compete for investment on the international stage. Immigration is terrible for them, trade agreements are terrible for them, environmental regulations are terrible for them, poverty and death rate is rising. If the Trump agenda fails, they'll just revolt, probably. It's "bad", in a sense, that they were given hope, because now they expect something. Even I would find it ridiculous if they didn't get something to pacify them.
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Posted 3/26/17

Ejanss


I was referring to what appears to be a personal bias against rural Americans, and a want of stereotyping them. I'm not sure about the nature of this discussion you started with me, though, since it doesn't appear to be directly related to my quote.
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Well, unlike your previous pro-communism thread(s?) you were actually readable and made sense for an entire paragraph. Good job, OP! Baby steps!
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Balzack wrote:
Well, unlike your previous pro-communism thread(s?) you were actually readable and made sense for an entire paragraph. Good job, OP! Baby steps!


I don't know. This one was more readable but I still walked away wondering if it was me or the OP that was high. >.>

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Even as an extreme leftist, this makes no sense to me. The arrogance of the assumptions made in this post is simply staggering.
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Oh, it's this guy / girl again. No surprise here.
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