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ANIME STREAMING COSTS / too many channels
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ANIME STREAMING COSTS / too many channels


With Amazon Strike already getting Sword Oratoria / Is It Wrong to Try to Pick Up Girls in a Dungeon? now Atom the Beginning & Frame Arms Girl and the other channels Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu, TAN ( Crunchyroll, and Funimation - now the VRV channel ) Where does it end WTH really ! It's worst than ever

Sentai Filmworks Licenses Frame Arms Girl, Atom the Beginning Anime
Atom The Beginning to stream on Anime Strike


http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-03-30/sentai-filmworks-licenses-frame-arms-girl-atom-the-beginning-anime/.114146

HERE's a good article about AMAZON PRIME and the streaming headaches


OPINION - AMAZON'S ANIME STRIKE DOESN'T WORK / Adam Nizam via CGM



http://www.cgmagonline.com/2017/02/14/opinion-amazons-anime-strike-doesnt-work/


I feel I have the right theme going as 2 more SENTAI Shows are going to Amazon Strike



Sentai Filmworks Adds Armed Girl's Machiavellism TV Anime
Series streams on Amazon's Anime Strike on April 5


http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-03-31/sentai-filmworks-adds-armed-girl-machiavellism-tv-anime/.114173

Sentai Filmworks Licenses Sagrada Reset TV Anime
24-episode series premieres on Amazon's Anime Strike on April 5


http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-03-31/sentai-filmworks-licenses-sagrada-reset-tv-anime/.114172

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Survival of the fittest, Jerry. Situations like these don't persist forever. Sooner or later, a competitor is going to run out of steam, and I'm pretty sure it won't be the Crunchy-Funi combo. Then again, Amazon is backing Anime Strike, so that leaves Daisuki and TAN to burn out. ... Most likely TAN. That one was already pretty fragile. Sentai was foolish to jeopardize their partnership with Crunchyroll, IMO.
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rcsatcrunchyroll wrote:

Survival of the fittest, Jerry. Situations like these don't persist forever. Sooner or later, a competitor is going to run out of steam, and I'm pretty sure it won't be the Crunchy-Funi combo. Then again, Amazon is backing Anime Strike, so that leaves Daisuki and TAN to burn out. ... Most likely TAN. That one was already pretty fragile. Sentai was foolish to jeopardize their partnership with Crunchyroll, IMO.


Thanks for posting I am a older Anime Fan and TAN On Demand besides Cartoon Nerwork / Adult Swim and even the older Sci-i channel has anime before Funimation / Viz etc Then CR Hulu came along and even later Nerflix /Amazon

If anything I am more partial to TAN becuse they had way more new anime back in 2011-2012 than FUNI / CR combined

Then I WAS warching AOD (TAN )back in 2002 until FUNU took over most of the on -demand

Amazon Strike just added 2 more today Armed Girl's Machiavellism TV and Sagrada Reset ! They arent messing around

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At least Anime Strike is more worthwhile to sign up for now that Sentai is putting their most of their catalog there with a number of these titles exclusive. It figures that now that CR has sided with Funi that they are now looking elsewhere for their titles. Amazon is such a rich company that they can pay Sentai more money than anybody else can, so of course if the money is there for Sentai, they take it.
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I would have probably subscribed to Amazon Strike if it didn't require a Prime membership. There are quite a lot of different channels now. I'll be keeping Crunchyroll and maintain a rotating subscriptions of other streaming sites. Essentially, I would try to finish one streaming site's library, then drop subscription on that site. Finally, I would subscribe to the next site. Rinse and repeat.
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Going into the Spring 2017 season, I've only got 2 anime subscriptions VRV (CR/Funi) and Anime Strike (Amazon) and that will cover pretty much everything for this season (unless stuff ends up unlicensed).

Luckily I already had an Amazon Prime account and now that it seems that Amazon and Sentai are teaming up so I can cancel my TAN account.



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KEEPING IN THEME / MORE CONFUSION

RIVALS to simulcast same show / what confusing anime industry / enough already

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Deep pockets of Amazon = win for Anime.

People are just updated that they can't get literally every anime on demand cheap via one or two outlets. How would the industry get by realistically if CR got everything every season? The "fans" are fickle - one show not on CR this season? Cool just threaten cancellation and endorse piracy... I think half of those premium subbers are just paying for the convenience and not to support the industry. In their eyes less than the price of a takeaway a month is already sufficient to fund every studio and every anime and the industry to somehow prosper from such charity (oh whilst raging if said one show they wanted and little care for the others just gets 12 episodes and not 100 because that's totally normal business works...)

The model Amazon have adopted via strike is... Risky but they'll have done the maths. Let's all hope it works as again that is good for the industry - is it good for us CR subbers? Nope but then was the recent partnership between CR and Funimaton good for Funimaton and the industry? Time will tell but mostly people don't give a shit and just want all the Funi shows here and want them by yesterday. Amazon will likely pay well for exclusives, CR doesn't even like exclusives and they pay per view per show - a fantastic but flimsy model as more anime = better value yet less chance of all shows becoming a success as there only so many people will watch or even try. We hit one million subscribers yet that's paltry a number to fund all the shows realistically even if we even split what we watched and thus as ever anime relies on home dvd sales.

I hope the anime bubble doesn't burst again... Competition being fierce ironically will help avoid this, at the loss of our convenience.
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Deep pockets of Amazon = win for Anime.

People are just updated that they can't get literally every anime on demand cheap via one or two outlets. How would the industry get by realistically if CR got everything every season? The "fans" are fickle - one show not on CR this season? Cool just threaten cancellation and endorse piracy... I think half of those premium subbers are just paying for the convenience and not to support the industry. In their eyes less than the price of a takeaway a month is already sufficient to fund every studio and every anime and the industry to somehow prosper from such charity (oh whilst raging if said one show they wanted and little care for the others just gets 12 episodes and not 100 because that's totally normal business works...)

The model Amazon have adopted via strike is... Risky but they'll have done the maths. Let's all hope it works as again that is good for the industry - is it good for us CR subbers? Nope but then was the recent partnership between CR and Funimaton good for Funimaton and the industry? Time will tell but mostly people don't give a shit and just want all the Funi shows here and want them by yesterday. Amazon will likely pay well for exclusives, CR doesn't even like exclusives and they pay per view per show - a fantastic but flimsy model as more anime = better value yet less chance of all shows becoming a success as there only so many people will watch or even try. We hit one million subscribers yet that's paltry a number to fund all the shows realistically even if we even split what we watched and thus as ever anime relies on home dvd sales.

I hope the anime bubble doesn't burst again... Competition being fierce ironically will help avoid this, at the loss of our convenience.


Anime Strike is $160 a year if you don't have prime.
That's nearly three times the price of CR, Funi, or Netflix (lowest price).

You don't just triple the price of something that isn't coffee without pissing people off.
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LokiLB wrote:Anime Strike is $160 a year if you don't have prime.
That's nearly three times the price of CR, Funi, or Netflix (lowest price).

You don't just triple the price of something that isn't coffee without pissing people off.


source?
that can't be right. Prime is $100 / year (with no discounts), so regular prime users with Amazon Strike pay a total of $160 / year
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source?
that can't be right. Prime is $100 / year (with no discounts), so regular prime users with Amazon Strike pay a total of $160 / year

Source for what? You've agreed with the pricing for Prime + Anime Strike, so that apparently isn't it.

In contrast, 12 month subscriptions (rather than paying each month) are $59.95 for CR and $59.99 for Funimation. Triple either of those would be just shy of $180 per year, so "nearly three times the price" is something I can't contest in comparison for CR or Funimation. (It does not, however apply for Netflix, which has only monthly subscriptions, and would be around $120 per year).

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Source for what?


the guy claimed that if you don't have prime (you don't pay $100 / year for prime), the cost of Amazon Strike is the same as those who have prime + Amazon Strike, meaning you would have to pay the same as those who have prime, while only being able to use Amazon Strike.

edit: reading again, i think i misread what he said. haha

the claim is a bit unfair though, since you get Prime benefits in addition to anime strike.
many people choose to pay $100 / year for Prime because they find same day / 2 day shipping to be well worth the cost.
(in addition to other perks like Prime Music)
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I hope that this move means that Amazon intends to spend more on quality. I tried to check out the Lyrical Nanoha series on the Canadian version of Amazon Prime, and it was riddled with errors:

- The subtitles were poorly timed to dialog and animation cuts
- Subtitles aren't available at all for Nanoha A's or StrikerS at all. It's all in Japanese with no subs whatsoever. I emailed them and they said that they'd look into it, but subs still aren't available about a month later.
- Subtitles are available on Prime UK, which I was able to access through a VPN. The quality of the translation of A's was quite poor. In certain places, it looks as though the output of an automatic translation service was used verbatim in the subtitles, even though the translation was clearly grammatically incorrect and the program had indicated that the translation was dubious by putting "??" at the end of the text. Yeah.
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TheAncientOne wrote:


namealreadytaken wrote:

source?
that can't be right. Prime is $100 / year (with no discounts), so regular prime users with Amazon Strike pay a total of $160 / year

Source for what? You've agreed with the pricing for Prime + Anime Strike, so that apparently isn't it.

In contrast, 12 month subscriptions (rather than paying each month) are $59.95 for CR and $59.99 for Funimation. Triple either of those would be just shy of $180 per year, so "nearly three times the price" is something I can't contest in comparison for CR or Funimation. (It does not, however apply for Netflix, which has only monthly subscriptions, and would be around $120 per year).



I was a bit off for Netflix (https://www.netflix.com/getstarted?locale=en-IN) going from memory. The lowest tier is more like $100 a year.
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- Subtitles aren't available at all for Nanoha A's or StrikerS at all. It's all in Japanese with no subs whatsoever. I emailed them and they said that they'd look into it, but subs still aren't available about a month later.

When I viewed the first episode of StrikerS on Amazon Strike via my web browser, I had to turn on closed captioning to obtain the English language text. I haven't yet tried it on my Roku to see how it works there.

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