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Checking on youtube about this theme,
and seen how marvel comics(not the film)
have been going with this direction in most of their story.
making femenist more stronger, alway giving the last word to the female hero,
making social comentary, on today topic or theme, those kind things.


With fanservice, moe, and other hentai stuff in anime
theres lot em can swallow to say something about it.

confessing here i Love Keijo(yuri on ice is to hype) and seen my fair
of well ye grew in the 90's ye know(i m curing myself).
But will say that i m a hipocrite cause i wrote n critisize a certain anime that was stupid
n offensive to other gender. But do not regret it.
hey i respect anybody n everybody for their opinion, but when it is over saturated
let just say a comedian cant get to the punch line
so does it exist, are there outer, are you one?

and like always
thank for been awesome

P.S. april 5th mi hero 2nd
nice.
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Posted 3/31/17 , edited 4/3/17
Please speak English.

In any case, I am not sure, nor do I really care about the public political wranglings in the backwoods of anime studios. Trying to see if an East Asian media has anything similar to an overwhelmingly Western movement is dumb. I do not think you should so uncomfortable to be paranoid about it.
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cabron so it does, here hoping
i dont star a he said/she said discussion.

And i m dyslexic, words dont come easy
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Anime has always had strong women characters and they are not shamed into making them. Anime is such a fantastic medium where all kinds of characters can be portrayed. When it's a $150 million blockbuster they kind of have to focus group that shit so no one gets offended. Creation by committee.


juanasilo wrote:

cabron so it does, here hoping
i dont star a he said/she said discussion.

And i m dyslexic, words dont come easy


Don't mind him, he's just a jerk.
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Posted 3/31/17 , edited 3/31/17

juanasilo wrote:

cabron so it does, here hoping
i dont star a he said/she said discussion.

And i m dyslexic, words dont come easy


The irony is that I too made a mistake in that post. I am not the smartest person. Perhaps we should both work on our mistakes.


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Anime has always had strong women characters and they are not shamed into making them. Anime is such a fantastic medium where all kinds of characters can be portrayed. When it's a $150 million blockbuster they kind of have to focus group that shit so no one gets offended. Creation by committee.


juanasilo wrote:

cabron so it does, here hoping
i dont star a he said/she said discussion.

And i m dyslexic, words dont come easy


Don't mind him, he's just a jerk.


I resent that.
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juanasilo wrote:

cabron so it does, here hoping
i dont star a he said/she said discussion.

And i m dyslexic, words dont come easy


The irony is that I too made a mistake in that post. I am not the smartest person. Perhaps we should both work on our mistakes.


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juanasilo wrote:


Checking on youtube about this theme,
and seen how marvel comics(not the film)
have been going with this direction in most of their story.
making femenist more stronger, alway giving the last word to the female hero,
making social comentary, on today topic or theme, those kind things.


I don't see how that's a bad thing...?


juanasilo wrote:
With fanservice, moe, and other hentai stuff in anime
theres lot em can swallow to say something about it.

confessing here i Love Keijo(yuri on ice is to hype) and seen my fair
of well ye grew in the 90's ye know(i m curing myself).
But will say that i m a hipocrite cause i wrote n critisize a certain anime that was stupid
n offensive to other gender. But do not regret it.
hey i respect anybody n everybody for their opinion, but when it is over saturated
let just say a comedian cant get to the punch line
so does it exist, are there outer, are you one?



Sexism in anime does bother me sometimes, I'll admit that, as well as the latent homophobia.
Still, I don't see myself as a "social justice warrior" (the term is rather ridiculous, in my opinion). To use your examples: I found Yuri on Ice to be very refreshing because it finally offered a realsitic (for anime standards) depiction of a homosexual romance. However, I also enjoyed Keijo quite a bit because of its over-the-top hilarity (and no, I didn't think it was offensive). Both shows just worked. To me, that's a very important aspect.
What gets to me is exaggerated T&A character design in shows that aren't about that at all (for example, the newer designs in One Piece) because it just seems kind of silly. I still enjoy One Piece a lot, and am more bothered by the slow pacing than the character designs, yet I do think it could be a little better on that end. That doesn't mean I'm going to go out on the street and demand more realistic proportions on anime characters. To me, it's a matter of personal taste and opinion.
I'm much more concerned by sexism (and racism) in more mainstream media and, for lack of a better term, in the real world, but that's another story.

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Have you never seen a Hayao Miyazaki film?
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Every medium has social commentary. Anime is no different ( and you could even say especially anime in many cases ). The difference is its social commentary on Japanese culture so it drifts over our heads in the west. I mean, Akira is uniquely Japanese social commentary. But to the west its a cool sci-fi where that one guy gets all bloated at the end. -.-

As for Marvel comics, this isn't new territory there either. Comics have always reflected cultural and social issues of the times. Though perhaps not always intentionally.

As for the question of "social justice warriors" existing in this medium; SJW as a pejorative term is a fairly recent addition to the online cultural lexicon having been hijacked and essentially troll weaponized in that whole Gamergate mess a few years back. I honestly still can't take anyone who uses the term seriously given it's original meanings and how fast it was flipped by the troll brigade.
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I don't exactly understand what this post is saying, but a good of rule thumb is:

If you're asking if x type of person is in a huge group, which would be the anime industry(?) in this case, the answer is yes.
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the penetration is limited, since to be profitable in such a niche market requires catering to your niche. If a moral busybody comes in to lecture a creator, they aren't buying it, so they don't care. Likewise this is a boon to said to these busybodies. If they actually start putting money down they would find they can get the creators to cater to them, without taking away all the cool things everyone else has.

The vast number of anime made and the diverse spectrum of professions that are on the Production Committee system make it so no one group is always in power.
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But yes I agree that some of this "SJW" standards or ways of thinking have been changing some medias today, from movies to other things.

Like the issues surrounding the "New Ghost Busters!" (although... yes there are some good and negative things about it)
and say things like "We need a strong female character"...
But in the end they give a main hero that is female but lacks anything "strong or supportive" about her.

At least in some cases when they "just change things up" in a bad way.
To things like "we should move away from how we did things before" which could be great, but more often then not hitting more issues then they could handle and forgetting characters before maybe had more meaning then what they would believe.
(this all is a bit more to movies about comic's or more fantasy like stuff)

like Superman!
Gives you SuperWomen!

Catwomen
oh...
and so on.
Posted 4/3/17
Funny this came up
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/marvel-comic-book-sales-falling-vp-diversity-women-a7662771.html
*unsolicited opinions on israel intensifies*

As for anime, be worried about SJWs coming for it. There is a huge push for Japan to destroy their cultural identity in favor of multikulti 'progressiveness'. I don't think our beloved japanese cartoons will survive should the worst happen, at least not as we know them.


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juanasilo wrote:


Checking on youtube about this theme,
and seen how marvel comics(not the film)
have been going with this direction in most of their story.
making femenist more stronger, alway giving the last word to the female hero,
making social comentary, on today topic or theme, those kind things.


With fanservice, moe, and other hentai stuff in anime
theres lot em can swallow to say something about it.

confessing here i Love Keijo(yuri on ice is to hype) and seen my fair
of well ye grew in the 90's ye know(i m curing myself).
But will say that i m a hipocrite cause i wrote n critisize a certain anime that was stupid
n offensive to other gender. But do not regret it.
hey i respect anybody n everybody for their opinion, but when it is over saturated
let just say a comedian cant get to the punch line
so does it exist, are there outer, are you one?

and like always
thank for been awesome

P.S. april 5th mi hero 2nd
nice.


SJW's don't even exist in the comic world either! The CREATORS of those comics, you know, the people who OWN THESE CHARACTERS, expressed their rights as Americans, to change things up a little! Kids are throwing little tantrums, shouting about how the SJWs are taking over the world!

Look at Ms. Marvel. She's always been a girl, but holy shit, they made another Ms. Marvel who is Pakistani.

When Marvel did this, did the world explode? Did all the past Marvel comics suddenly vanish? Did the movies suddenly start to suck? The answer to all these questions is no. SJWs haven't taken over the world, Marvel is trying something new, and that's it.

Seriously, the people who cry 'SJW' are more annoying than the people they are raging against.
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Funny this came up
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/marvel-comic-book-sales-falling-vp-diversity-women-a7662771.html
*unsolicited opinions on israel intensifies*

As for anime, be worried about SJWs coming for it. There is a huge push for Japan to destroy their cultural identity in favor of multikulti 'progressiveness'. I don't think our beloved japanese cartoons will survive should the worst happen, at least not as we know them.




See? You're full of shit.

You're throwing around these 'fake worries', and crap like that, pretending their is some dark force looming in the shadows, waiting to attack anything we love! LOL!

You're just some conspiracy nut telling everyone to beware the looming SJW menace!
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