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MOAB sounds like a cookie.
Can I eat this MOAB?


I don't think so...
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You leftists.... I remember when you guys were crying that Trump was a Nationalist and an isolationist, because he was running on "America won't get involved in any other country's problems. America will stop being the world's police. America first.

You guys were saying, "Hey! Then the terrorists and rogue states will run rampant." You berated America for leaving the world to its own devices.

Crunchyroll's forum search tool sucks ass, or I would have looked up those posts and posted links to them.

Now Trump orders a missile attack in Syria, and a bomb attack in Afghanistan against ISIS, and you berate the U.S. as thugs and bullies, accusing the U.S. for being warmongers.... attacking everyone around us....




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They should have been dropping these things by the thousands 10 years ago.

For those of you saying this is scary..... why? Yes bombs are scary... but the people we intend them for are even scarier.
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Afghanistan is a hell hole, I hope they bomp the whole place up.
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Americans get blamed if we act or do not act, so we make the best choice we can with the information available at the time. We didn't ask for this war but we have choices on how we conduct it. If you leave ours and our allies alone, we generally leave you alone.

Freedom is messy, and often dangerous. But the only alternative is tyranny.
Brown, E. William. Perilous Waif (Alice Long Book 1) (p. 145). Kindle Edition.


"In war, our successes and our failures will define the course of human history. If we lose this war, then that history may very well come to an end. When this war demands sacrifices, remember that the price of victory is always paid in blood. Sometimes it's ours, sometimes it's theirs, but the price is always blood." Bloom, A.D. (2014-12-02).
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I think what you meant to say was, "If you do what we want then, we generally leave you alone".
We have a distinct pattern of behavior.


No, many countries have opposed us, but not killed or hurt us, we generally leave them alone.


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Jamming777 wrote:

Americans get blamed if we act or do not act, so we make the best choice we can with the information available at the time. We didn't ask for this war but we have choices on how we conduct it. If you leave ours and our allies alone, we generally leave you alone.


Funny you should say that lol

We started the wars with several middle east countries including Afghanistan. Now once again, we are picking a fight with a country we had no issue with called Syria. And people wonder why the middle east hates us so much. Afghanistan is run by the taliban who cannot even properly run the country. Why we keep engaging in battles that have no meaning is the real question.

Not so fast, Afghanistan started the war with us by supporting El Qaida's 9-11, we disengaged from Afghanistan after the Soviets left 1989 and Najibullah's government fell in 1992. The Taliban seized Kabul in 1996 and established the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan. Clinton did not engage in Afghanistan at all. Even though the Taliban was accused by the Physicians for Human Rights (PHR), "no other regime in the world has methodically and violently forced half of its population into virtual house arrest, prohibiting them on pain of physical punishment from showing their faces, seeking medical care without a male escort, or attending school." We left them alone until that fateful day in September 2001. Do not try to rewrite history it only works in Anime.

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I heard about this earlier today. Is there any footage of the MOAB wrecking their sh!t? 'Cause I wanna see it.
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Finally!


KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — The attack on a tunnel complex in remote eastern Afghanistan with the largest non-nuclear weapon ever used in combat by the U.S. military left 36 Islamic State group fighters dead and no civilian casualties, Afghanistan officials said Friday.

The Ministry of Defense said in a statement that several IS caves and ammunition caches were destroyed by the giant bomb, which terrified villagers on both sides of the Afghanistan-Pakistan border with its "earsplitting blast."

The U.S. military headquarters in Kabul said the bomb was dropped at about 7:30 p.m. local time Thursday on a tunnel complex in Nangarhar province, where the Afghan affiliate of the Islamic State group has been operating. The target was close to the Pakistani border.

"I want a hundred times more bombings on this group," said Hakim Khan, 50, a resident of Achin district, the site of the blast.

The U.S. estimates 600 to 800 IS fighters are present in Afghanistan, mostly in Nangarhar. The U.S. has concentrated heavily on combatting them while also supporting Afghan forces battling the Taliban. President Donald Trump called Thursday's operation a "very, very successful mission."


I also want a hundred more bombings lmao

36 dead, 564-764 more to go!! we need to kill them all. But why aren't other countries helping? and if they know where ISIS is, why did it take so long???

I'm praying for the USA army and navy and everyone involved over there. This is good news but at the same time I feel sad for our men in ISIS territory. I hope this ends soon so they can come back home!!


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Posted 4/14/17 , edited 4/14/17
No innocent dead? That is good.

Civilian casualties are unavoidable in nearly any war. Just as soldiers are sent to fight and die, we must be willing to bear the burden of some consequences, whether they be continued ISIS inspired attacks on our soil from a lack of inaction or whatever.
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No innocent dead? That is good.

Civilian casualties are unavoidable in nearly any war. Just as soldiers are sent to fight and die, we must be willing to bear the burden of some consequences, whether they be continued ISIS inspired attacks on our soil from a lack of inaction or whatever.


You know it's said if you stop to think that scientific advancement made it thus: civilian casualties inevitable. Before the mid 1800's there were specific battlefields where armies fought. That was the norm. Actually, I remember my US history teacher talking about how it was the Civil War in the USA that really gave war a bad name. He said that prior to the advent of firearms, land wars often had spectators lining up on the sides of battles to watch the armies fight. It's that old adage about how a knight in full armor rarely was killed -- only just wounded and had to stop fighting. It's the combination of firearms --scientific advancement -- and guerilla / urban warfare that made civilian casualties inevitable. I suppose it all depends on the war and battle, to some degree. Normandy did not have many civilian casualties.
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They should have been dropping these things by the thousands 10 years ago.

For those of you saying this is scary..... why? Yes bombs are scary... but the people we intend them for are even scarier.


we should never have dropped these bombs :/
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Afghanistan is a hell hole, I hope they bomp the whole place up.


yeah cause fuck innocent lives amirite
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appletongamer wrote:

They should have been dropping these things by the thousands 10 years ago.

For those of you saying this is scary..... why? Yes bombs are scary... but the people we intend them for are even scarier.


we should never have dropped these bombs :/


Yes "we" should have, and have done so. Any nation fighting against their enemies can't keep going soft on them, putting down more firepower on your enemy and obliterating them is how groups like ISIS needs to be dealt with.
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

No innocent dead? That is good.

Civilian casualties are unavoidable in nearly any war. Just as soldiers are sent to fight and die, we must be willing to bear the burden of some consequences, whether they be continued ISIS inspired attacks on our soil from a lack of inaction or whatever.


You know it's said if you stop to think that scientific advancement made it thus: civilian casualties inevitable. Before the mid 1800's there were specific battlefields where armies fought. That was the norm. Actually, I remember my US history teacher talking about how it was the Civil War in the USA that really gave war a bad name. He said that prior to the advent of firearms, land wars often had spectators lining up on the sides of battles to watch the armies fight. It's that old adage about how a knight in full armor rarely was killed -- only just wounded and had to stop fighting. It's the combination of firearms --scientific advancement -- and guerilla / urban warfare that made civilian casualties inevitable. I suppose it all depends on the war and battle, to some degree. Normandy did not have many civilian casualties.


Well, yes, I suppose if you were desperate to blame everything, to include the very horror of war itself, on the US, it might seem that way to you. You would, however, be laughably wrong.

Napoleonic wars were horrid affairs. Rennaisance wars were horrid affairs. Medieval wars were horrid affairs. Civilian casualties were always a factor, and unlike in modern (1940s onward) warfare where civilian casualties were a result of warfare expanding to include targeting of munitions production centers and industrial bases, in the earlier wars, civilian casualties were *intentional slaughter*. In the 30 years' war 1618-1648, catholic and protestant europe slaughtered each other with such abandon that they killed the same proportion of the population as was killed in WW2. And that's not counting the deaths from disease and starvation resulting from the armies foraging/ plundering the land barren, which killed millions more. For most of the early and high medieval periods, it was considered standard etiquitte that a sieging army was permitted to kill every man woman and child in a town that refused to surrender and had to be taken by storming. While casualties among knights were low, this was simply because they were wealthy, therefore a) well armored (unlike the peasants that made the bulk of medieval european armies in the early and high medieval), and b) if captured alive, could be ransomed for quite a bit of cash (again, unlike the peasants, whose ransom was worthless and were therefore simply killed). Lest you think this was a purely european thing, mind that the Japanese slaughtered almost 30% of the population of Korea (including the women and children) in the Imjin war of 1592-1598, that Tamerlane built monuments of skulls of slaughtered towns, and that Mohammed himself killed entire tribes to a man for opposing his rule. Not even going to start in on the mongols or huns.

But, sure, war was awesome until, you know, America.
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Posted 4/14/17 , edited 4/14/17

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appletongamer wrote:

They should have been dropping these things by the thousands 10 years ago.

For those of you saying this is scary..... why? Yes bombs are scary... but the people we intend them for are even scarier.


we should never have dropped these bombs :/


Yes "we" should have, and have done so. Any nation fighting against their enemies can't keep going soft on them, putting down more firepower on your enemy and obliterating them is how groups like ISIS needs to be dealt with.


So short sighted if you think that.... Dropping bombs doesn't solve it if anything it strengthens them if you cannot cut the source the bombing is just adding fuel to the fire.

Now ISIS will just grow more...if your going to attack them go full on otherwise you are just creating more reason for them to fight and more people willing to fight due to lost loved ones etc.

I highly disagree with the actions here there are other choices that would function better but then again the US military isn't known for thinking first then attacking you guys just seem to bomb everyone as if it solves problems.

Oh well what's done is done but unless America is willing to use more then one bomb and eliminate every last ISIS member around the globe then this was a bad decision in my opinion.
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Finally!


KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) — The attack on a tunnel complex in remote eastern Afghanistan with the largest non-nuclear weapon ever used in combat by the U.S. military left 36 Islamic State group fighters dead and no civilian casualties, Afghanistan officials said Friday.

The Ministry of Defense said in a statement that several IS caves and ammunition caches were destroyed by the giant bomb, which terrified villagers on both sides of the Afghanistan-Pakistan border with its "earsplitting blast."

The U.S. military headquarters in Kabul said the bomb was dropped at about 7:30 p.m. local time Thursday on a tunnel complex in Nangarhar province, where the Afghan affiliate of the Islamic State group has been operating. The target was close to the Pakistani border.

"I want a hundred times more bombings on this group," said Hakim Khan, 50, a resident of Achin district, the site of the blast.

The U.S. estimates 600 to 800 IS fighters are present in Afghanistan, mostly in Nangarhar. The U.S. has concentrated heavily on combatting them while also supporting Afghan forces battling the Taliban. President Donald Trump called Thursday's operation a "very, very successful mission."


I also want a hundred more bombings lmao

36 dead, 564-764 more to go!! we need to kill them all. But why aren't other countries helping? and if they know where ISIS is, why did it take so long???

I'm praying for the USA army and navy and everyone involved over there. This is good news but at the same time I feel sad for our men in ISIS territory. I hope this ends soon so they can come back home!!




There is a reason other countries aren't helping I hope my country does not bomb them personally if America wants to fuel a bigger war and create more martyrs then that's their choice but don't expect other countries to follow suit.

There are way more then 764 ISIS members...each death feeds the anger and fires of war in the remaining members and encourages them to deal more harm and to brainwash more people.

I'm not saying they shouldn't be killed but we should be smarter then just bombing their bases then again there isn't much more we can do...with terrorists like these it's a lose lose situation you can only reduce casualties you can never defeat them because people die but an idea doesn't and the deaths of those following an idea fuel those who believe in that idea.

After this attack I expect ISIS attacks will start becoming much more dramatic and public then they are now (if that's even possible) but I could be wrong let's see I guess
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