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Post Reply Real Martial Artist vs Pro Football Player! Who would win?
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Posted 4/19/17 , edited 4/19/17
Anyone that has definable moves for fighting will always lose to someone that is simply aware enough to not predefine anything.

Just like tai chi dudes, before it became so common it was just individuals doing their thing and sometimes they fought. Now tai chi is a bunch of flashy moves in media with very little being taught philosophically as a foundation for all being done. While the earliest dudes wouldn't have had any rhetoric, everything is them and they easily were able to make energy out of nothing. Flashy moves are all about getting your opponent to fall for something lame instead of being aware enough to avoid the stupidity or just end it, more awareness more energy.
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So, are we talking a "One knee equals three feet" type football player or the "Thug Life" football player who would pull out a pistol and cap your ass?
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JanusCascade wrote:

Professional Football player would make excellent Target Practice for Martial Artist, Why? Because Football players have high Stamina and allow Martial Artist to complete a combo attack on him!

I vote for Martial Artist to Win. Because they know the pressure point of the Human body (where to hit them at). While Professional Football player just bump them or thinking that lifting all that weight is sufficent to take on any Street Fighters, They're sorely mistaken.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yQhSV6Qz3U

Can you imagine Kung Fu Guy taking on 15 Professional Football player? :p


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWxlZ52O0rI
This video has a 600 lb Sumo vs a 169 lb MMA. The MMA wins. You may find the video interesting. Also, sumo fighters have a fuck ton of muscle.

All you gotta do is dance around them until they are tired and worn down. Just like how water beats rock with time.
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Dark_Alma wrote:


JanusCascade wrote:

Professional Football player would make excellent Target Practice for Martial Artist, Why? Because Football players have high Stamina and allow Martial Artist to complete a combo attack on him!

I vote for Martial Artist to Win. Because they know the pressure point of the Human body (where to hit them at). While Professional Football player just bump them or thinking that lifting all that weight is sufficent to take on any Street Fighters, They're sorely mistaken.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yQhSV6Qz3U

Can you imagine Kung Fu Guy taking on 15 Professional Football player? :p


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWxlZ52O0rI
This video has a 600 lb Sumo vs a 169 lb MMA. The MMA wins. You may find the video interesting. Also, sumo fighters have a fuck ton of muscle.

All you gotta do is dance around them until they are tired and worn down. Just like how water beats rock with time.



Martial Artist can use this method up against Sumo! :p



Anyway, yea with all that weight and making them going after you will worn them out quickly! That fat guy probably luck out if he got any win by overconfidence fighter who thought they can withstand his punch, He probably can knock them out with one punch.
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runec wrote:

"Martial artist" is such a broad category.

However, size doesn't protect your head or legs and once you're on the ground it does little for you. If we're talking any of the forms of martial arts that are designed to do serious damage they can overwhelm an untrained opponent with surprising ease. Regardless of size.

No one with any sort of training or combat experience is just going wade in to a straight contest of strength with a larger opponent.


I remember back in high school I got into a fight with someone about 75 pounds heavier than I. I was a purple belt in Judo (good enough for this) and I absolutely stomped his ass. Got him to the ground then it was my game.

Now when it comes to BJJ, fuck that. My friend is 25 lbs lighter than me and he can still stomp my ass. He is a red belt in BJJ. God it tilts me...
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Dark_Alma wrote:
I remember back in high school I got into a fight with someone about 75 pounds heavier than I. I was a purple belt in Judo (good enough for this) and I absolutely stomped his ass. Got him to the ground then it was my game.

Now when it comes to BJJ, fuck that. My friend is 25 lbs lighter than me and he can still stomp my ass. He is a red belt in BJJ. God it tilts me...


Yep. There's a reason BJJ is such a backbone of MMA. Once you're on the ground you're just as punchable and maimable as anyone else.

People without any real fight experience or training don't typically know what to do once they're on the ground.
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so trained fighter vs trained athlete in a fight

fight..

fighter...

if the fighter loses to that he isnt fit to be called that

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runec wrote:


Dark_Alma wrote:
I remember back in high school I got into a fight with someone about 75 pounds heavier than I. I was a purple belt in Judo (good enough for this) and I absolutely stomped his ass. Got him to the ground then it was my game.

Now when it comes to BJJ, fuck that. My friend is 25 lbs lighter than me and he can still stomp my ass. He is a red belt in BJJ. God it tilts me...


Yep. There's a reason BJJ is such a backbone of MMA. Once you're on the ground you're just as punchable and maimable as anyone else.

People without any real fight experience or training don't typically know what to do once they're on the ground.


I mean, I last a long time on the ground... He just kinda beats my face up till I tap. The sad thing is... Judo is about flips... or getting people onto the ground. So I win easily till I get him to the ground...

Maybe I should just throw him, then run away, throw him again till he says "FUCK YOU! STOP THROWING ME" He will then be tilted enough I could win?

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It really depends on who the martial artist is. Like your average joe martial artist on the street probably could not take on your average NFL player simply because they are freak athletes. If you take similar sized people then the person who is most trained in combat will most likely win in combat. Football does not train you to fight but to play football, but the athleticism that football requires can also not be underestimated. I would probably think the average UFC fighter would beat any NFL player.
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Dark_Alma wrote:
Maybe I should just throw him, then run away, throw him again till he says "FUCK YOU! STOP THROWING ME" He will then be tilted enough I could win?


Hey, it worked in Street Fighter II.

You could also crouch and kick him in the shins every time he comes near you.


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This guy Brock Lesnar when he was on Juice could take on Gronk or Von Miller I think?
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Dark_Alma wrote:
Maybe I should just throw him, then run away, throw him again till he says "FUCK YOU! STOP THROWING ME" He will then be tilted enough I could win?


Hey, it worked in Street Fighter II.

You could also crouch and kick him in the shins every time he comes near you.




I like the way you think! Video games = real life as far as I am concerned! I shall become the strongest street fighter! Hurrah!
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Are we talking about football where people kick the ball or that rugby looking version of football?
Sorry I had to ask
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scoobydew wrote:

This guy Brock Lesnar when he was on Juice could take on Gronk or Von Miller I think?




Yes, I suppose he might have a shot.
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dwadewade wrote:
I would probably think the average UFC fighter would beat any NFL player.


Hau'oli Kikaha

http://pac-12.com/article/2014/07/24/judo-mixed-martial-arts-assist-washingtons-hauoli-kikaha-gridiron

He'd probably have a good shot at pulling it off.
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