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Right well I think all this just proofs now is that democracy was a bad idea and only through a strong dictatorship can we have order, who's with me?

Long live the empire.


I disagree. My problem with the Scottish referendum, isn't that it would be a vote. My problem with it is that there has only just been one, and if we have one every single time something happens, nothing is ever going to get done. If the last referendum had been 10 years ago, then I would at least feel like some time had past and it was a reasonable thing to do, but it just seems to be "Something I didn't want happened so we're going to leave" which just feels childish. I'm not even convinced she has that much support anymore...
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If they vote for someone that will undo Brexit there will be riots.


Statistically Leave voters leaned more towards people in their middle age/ later years. I sincerely doubt a group of Chelsea Pensioners are going to lay waste to London if a reversal happened regardless of the shit Nigel Farage likes to spout.

The reality is that even in the unlikely event that the current Tory government doesn't retain power whoever does get in won't reverse article 50 for two reasons - one they'd likely be alienating their base and two flip flopping would do more harm than good.
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Posted 4/20/17

mo-gan wrote:


bakura wrote:

Right well I think all this just proofs now is that democracy was a bad idea and only through a strong dictatorship can we have order, who's with me?

Long live the empire.


I disagree. My problem with the Scottish referendum, isn't that it would be a vote. My problem with it is that there has only just been one, and if we have one every single time something happens, nothing is ever going to get done. If the last referendum had been 10 years ago, then I would at least feel like some time had past and it was a reasonable thing to do, but it just seems to be "Something I didn't want happened so we're going to leave" which just feels childish. I'm not even convinced she has that much support anymore...


You realise I was joking about a dictatorship right?
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You realise I was joking about a dictatorship right?


Your "joke" was based off of trying to make a point, which I wanted to clarify.
Posted 4/20/17

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I disagree. My problem with the Scottish referendum, isn't that it would be a vote. My problem with it is that there has only just been one, and if we have one every single time something happens, nothing is ever going to get done. If the last referendum had been 10 years ago, then I would at least feel like some time had past and it was a reasonable thing to do, but it just seems to be "Something I didn't want happened so we're going to leave" which just feels childish. I'm not even convinced she has that much support anymore...


I don't really understand everyone's issues with Scotland having a second referendum. The SNP did say that if something happened such as Scotland being taken out of the EU against their will then they would seek a second referendum, 68% of Scotland voted to stay in the EU. It's not childish the SNP are doing what they said they would do, also i would like to point out that the result of our first referendum only had a 10% difference and a lot of people myself included regret voting to stay as part of the UK. Also May can go fuck herself.
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I don't really understand everyone's issues with Scotland having a second referendum. The SNP did say that if something happened such as Scotland being taken out of the EU against their will then they would seek a second referendum, 68% of Scotland voted to stay in the EU. It's not childish the SNP are doing what they said they would do, also i would like to point out that the result of our first referendum only had a 10% difference and a lot of people myself included regret voting to stay as part of the UK. Also May can go fuck herself.


It's not about there being a second referendum (for me at least). The last referendum was in 2014, which is a mere 3 years ago. If every single time something happens that SNP dislikes they have a referendum, nothing is ever going to get done. If it had been 10 years ago, I'd feel like that was a reasonable position to be in, but as it is, I feel it's just too soon.
Not to mention, this was an incredibly split issue. England and Wales were both firmly to leave, but Scotland and N. Ireland were both for remain. This isn't just Scotland being "forced" out of the EU against its will, there's a lot of other places (N. Ireland [55.8%] and London [59.9%] for example) that are in a similar position but are going to try and make it work.
Finally, your "regret" about voting to remain in the UK is completely irrelevant, the "only" 10% different is quite large when you compare that to 3.8% for leaving the EU. I also think that SNP are incredibly hypocritical. I see them talking the talk about how being in the UK is all terrible and how they don't get what they want, but I don't actually see them doing anything, and economically they've put Scotland into a bad position.
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mo-gan wrote:

It's not about there being a second referendum (for me at least). The last referendum was in 2014, which is a mere 3 years ago. If every single time something happens that SNP dislikes they have a referendum, nothing is ever going to get done. If it had been 10 years ago, I'd feel like that was a reasonable position to be in, but as it is, I feel it's just too soon.
Not to mention, this was an incredibly split issue. England and Wales were both firmly to leave, but Scotland and N. Ireland were both for remain. This isn't just Scotland being "forced" out of the EU against its will, there's a lot of other places (N. Ireland [55.8%] and London [59.9%] for example) that are in a similar position but are going to try and make it work.
Finally, your "regret" about voting to remain in the UK is completely irrelevant, the "only" 10% different is quite large when you compare that to 3.8% for leaving the EU. I also think that SNP are incredibly hypocritical. I see them talking the talk about how being in the UK is all terrible and how they don't get what they want, but I don't actually see them doing anything, and economically they've put Scotland into a bad position.


Unless you live in Scotland then why do you care? If you do live in Scotland then move if you don't like it. As far as i can see no political party does anything and N. Ireland can do what they want and so can London since that really does not have anything to do with me. Also this thread isn't even about Scotland, it's about a stupid pointless election that i can no longer bring myself to care about so bye.
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Unless you live in Scotland then why do you care? If you do live in Scotland then move if you don't like it. As far as i can see no political party does anything and N. Ireland can do what they want and so can London since that really does not have anything to do with me. Also this thread isn't even about Scotland, it's about a stupid pointless election that i can no longer bring myself to care about so bye.


Following your own logic, why don't you just move out of the UK if you don't like Brexit?
If no political party does anything, then why was it just Scotland who had the worst economic growth in the UK?
"Stupid pointless election" which decides the political future of the UK seems pretty important to me, especially when it can decide what kind of deal Brexit has or even if we do leave.
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conservatives are strong shell just get more seats in parliament, god knows labours fucked it and lib dems don't really register in the debate.
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Doesn't seem like it worked out all too well for her.
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Doesn't seem like it worked out all too well for her.


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Posted 6/9/17
it was a big mistake on her part...
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MysticGon wrote:

Doesn't seem like it worked out all too well for her.


She has plan B up her sleeve. She plans to work with DUP, who are ultraconcervatives to continue her Brexit plan her way.
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if she was younger id bang her!
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MysticGon wrote:

Doesn't seem like it worked out all too well for her.


She has plan B up her sleeve. She plans to work with DUP, who are ultraconcervatives to continue her Brexit plan her way.


Her 48.9% + their 1.5% would give them the majority, yes.
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