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A lot of people took me to task when I warned aout falling Disc Sales / It was saod that the Anime only sold like a 1000 ( In The Comment Link ) but worse Maga sakes were not increased

Everybody said Streaming Fees would make up losses! Not in this case



Daichi Sorayomi Ends Keijo!!!!!!!! Aquatic Sports Manga
Manga inspired 12-episode anime series in October
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FROM ANN COMMENTS


The author stright up said that the manga was canceled because the Anime didn't sell.

I'm sorry but that's just disgusting, something that the Author has so little to do with is the reason for a series ending. I'm all for canceling a show because the manga isn't selling (See Jump getting rid of it's Dancing Club manga a few months ago.) but if the anime is doing OK there's no reason to get rid of it because the anime under preformed. I don't know the actually manga sales of Keijo! but...it just sucks.

But I did appreciate that the author acknowledged that the series was quite popular in America.

The anime totally bombed in disc sales. I think it barely sold 1k per volume. The manga was a poor seller from the start and they hoped the anime would at least boost the manga sales but it got absolutely no boost at all. Even the manga only sold around 6~8k or something per volume which is abysmal, even for a Shounen Sunday series.

I'm amazed it actually lasted this long.

FROM Reddit ( Must be 18 ) A FEW

Alleged post from the author's blog (not sure if completely correct, taken from /a/):

I'm very sorry to write this but the timeline was not on my side. You see, the editor came to me last week and informed myself to increase the popularity of Keijo!!! This is not something you can do overnight. I was lost for words, as I believed we were doing fine in rankings. Today, I was informed by my editor that my manga is being removed due to the poor reception of the anime. The anime failed to make an impact, for advertising purposes, and the studio is carrying that loss because of it. It is my fault, and I am sorry. The source material should have been better and I've done a great burden. I was actually very surprised by the reception overseas. In various conversations, I was told it was greatly talked about in America. I'm glad some of you enjoyed it, but I'm sorry once again for failing. My sincerely apologies to Takahashi-san and XEBEC.

In most of the magazines it wouldn't last this long with how it actually performed but it really sounds awful to actually blame Sorayomi for it. Manga didn't sold so adapting his work was a really big risk, they took it and it didn't make money and manga didn't get a boost in sales. Happens all the time.

Also looking at how manga ended it wasn't so awfully axed, there was last boss fight and it felt like he at least got a bit of time to wrap it to the fight and have the last chapter

Well usually the magazine has a minuscule part in the production committee(the people funding the actual anime) to lower risks.

It seems the magazine took a gamble and lost and now they have losses to recoup and people to axe.

NEWS LINK / Comments

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-09-24/keijo-anime-home-video-releases-get-6-bonus-anime/.106709

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-09-24/keijo-anime-home-video-releases-get-6-bonus-anime/.106709

https://www.reddit.com/r/manga/comments/66ojhv/keijo_is_getting_axed_next_chapter_is_the_last_one/dgk1alg/

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Don't know about the manga but the show was pretty lackluster IMO, really surprised so many liked it because it wasn't anything special. If you like T&A there are better shows same with sports.
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For the record, the average sales per video volume in Japan currently stands at 873.
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. . . . . . . . . . you guys in general need to drop this "cancelled" idea.


Good media has a beginning and end. Indefinite runs are a recipe for bad writing. Let. Things. End.
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LavenderMintRose wrote:

. . . . . . . . . . you guys in general need to drop this "cancelled" idea.


Good media has a beginning and end. Indefinite runs are a recipe for bad writing. Let. Things. End.


If something gets abruptly cut short before it can reach its conclusion, then by definition it's been canceled...
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Maybe all male cast and change the name- ohh wait already done- Freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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kkmenchi wrote:

Don't know about the manga but the show was pretty lackluster IMO, really surprised so many liked it because it wasn't anything special. If you like T&A there are better shows same with sports.


But I agree the sport was dumb
The fan service was average at best EXCEPT for its much better than average butt fan service as most anime girls lack a nice booty.
The story was cheap and bad

BUT the characters were good.
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Maybe people confused it with an instructional turnip farming video.
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I have to say, the anime was better than the manga. I feel like the manga is ending cause the drawing is awful and the story is bad. Not because of the anime. If anything, the anime made it look better than it actually was.
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Didn't see the show, but considering that it was big time Tiddies and Ass....I'm actually surprised it didn't sell too well.


*shrugs* Maybe the Japanese are tired of tiddies and ass?
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Nogara-san wrote:

Didn't see the show, but considering that it was big time Tiddies and Ass....I'm actually surprised it didn't sell too well.


*shrugs* Maybe the Japanese are tired of tiddies and ass?

My guess:
1. No male self-insert. If you look at the most popular successful ecchi anime, it's also has a harem tag. I've rarely seen popular ecchi series without male lead beside Queen's Blade and Ikkitousen

2. There's just too MANY ecchi series. Just look at anime this season. There must be at least 3-4 ecchi series. So male otaku can be selective. It's not true ecchi anime is always successful.
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tsuruhami wrote:
My guess:
1. No male self-insert. If you look at the most popular successful ecchi anime, it's also has a harem tag. I've rarely seen popular ecchi series without male lead beside Queen's Blade and Ikkitousen

2. There's just too MANY ecchi series. Just look at anime this season. There must be at least 3-4 ecchi series. So male otaku can be selective. It's not true ecchi anime is always successful.


I just think the concept of the show was too odd/silly and niche to find a big enough audience in Japan's market. The focus was on a made up sport with physics defying T&A. The ecchi nature of it was more comedic in nature than meant to arouse.

As to your points:

1. While a decent number of the popular (most viewed) ecchi anime have the harem tag, not all do (See MAL link: https://myanimelist.net/anime/genre/9/Ecchi). So, this can't really explain why in and of itself, though it could be a possible reason why some may have not liked it as much.

2. This simply isn't true on a season per season basis, at least. Most seasons have one, maybe two or three if ecchi fans are lucky, shows that have a primary focus on the ecchiness. Sure, some have the ecchi tag but most don't make it a primary focus of the show. It is just used as added fanservice or comedy a lot of the time. If you look at any anime chart site (I use live chart: https://www.livechart.me/spring-2017/tv) you will notice only 4 shows out of 66 have the ecchi tag this season. That's roughly 6% of the season, hardly too MANY (unless you think even one existing is too many...). On top of that, the only show of those 4 that actually uses it as its primary selling point this season is Sin: Nanatsu No Taizai/Seven Mortal Sins. If anything, I'd argue there are too FEW ecchi anime series for fans of the genre as a primary focus.
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I just think the concept of the show was too odd/silly and niche to find a big enough audience in Japan's market. The focus was on a made up sport with physics defying T&A. The ecchi nature of it was more comedic in nature than meant to arouse.

As to your points:

1. While a decent number of the popular (most viewed) ecchi anime have the harem tag, not all do (See MAL link: https://myanimelist.net/anime/genre/9/Ecchi). So, this can't really explain why in and of itself, though it could be a possible reason why some may have not liked it as much.

2. This simply isn't true on a season per season basis, at least. Most seasons have one, maybe two or three if ecchi fans are lucky, shows that have a primary focus on the ecchiness. Sure, some have the ecchi tag but most don't make it a primary focus of the show. It is just used as added fanservice or comedy a lot of the time. If you look at any anime chart site (I use live chart: https://www.livechart.me/spring-2017/tv) you will notice only 4 shows out of 66 have the ecchi tag this season. That's roughly 6% of the season, hardly too MANY (unless you think even one existing is too many...). On top of that, the only show of those 4 that actually uses it as its primary selling point this season is Sin: Nanatsu No Taizai/Seven Mortal Sins. If anything, I'd argue there are too FEW ecchi anime series for fans of the genre as a primary focus.


1. Well... the link you give is the most popular / viewed ecchi anime in western fandom (MAL). Plus most of them is ecchi-harem.

2. Some series do have ecchi, but it's not tagged as such in MAL. In DanMachi you can see Hestia's breasts and butt shots. Don't forget bath scene. but there's no ecchi tag in MAL. Plus just because ecchi is not the main focus, it doesn't mean that the ecchi is not there like Shokugeki no Souma and High School of The Dead. If you want anime that uses lewdness as the main theme and contain 90% naked women, then hentai is the right place for you pal
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LavenderMintRose wrote:

. . . . . . . . . . you guys in general need to drop this "cancelled" idea.


Good media has a beginning and end. Indefinite runs are a recipe for bad writing. Let. Things. End.


Thank you!

Though the best of both worlds would be if the anime reflected the manga perfectly without making up its own endings like Akame ga Kill, FMA and Claymore.
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Regardless of that sad excuse from the editor, I gave a look to the manga after the anime ended but it got repetitive fast. While the concept was fun for the length of the anime; I don't think it's something you can use for a 100+ chapters successful manga.
I feel bad for the author and hope he can come up with another, more interesting, series.
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