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Bruh what do you expect it's florida
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Bruh what do you expect it's florida


true but even for flor-duh this is pretty low
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The kid assaulted a teacher. He's going to have an adult body capable of doing some real damage in a few years, better to teach him there are consequences for actions now rather than after he's put someone in the hospital.
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The kid assaulted a teacher. He's going to have an adult body capable of doing some real damage in a few years, better to teach him there are consequences for actions now rather than after he's put someone in the hospital.


He has autism this is not going to teach him a damn thing do you even have the slightest clue of what autism is? Clearly you don't or you would not have posted something so ignorant
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I am not sure if autism is a valid excuse in this situation, once we get the middle school thing going.

But yeah, the original incident was in October 2016, and they decided arrest him now? Why?
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I am not sure if autism is a valid excuse in this situation, once we get the middle school thing going.

But yeah, the original incident was in October 2016, and they decided arrest him now? Why?


Something about the warrant or whatever took that long to process, according to the article I read about it yesterday.


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Uh, just saying "they have autism" is an incredibly flimsy argument. There are many forms of autism - so making them all sound like they're under one 'cannot take responsibility' umbrella is very thoughtless.
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Posted 4/21/17 , edited 4/21/17

Amyas_Leigh wrote:

The kid assaulted a teacher. He's going to have an adult body capable of doing some real damage in a few years, better to teach him there are consequences for actions now rather than after he's put someone in the hospital.


That's not how you teach someone with autism and it's not the supposed reasoning for the arrest/action anyway.


"In this case, we are not seeking to give him a criminal record or anything of that nature," Albright said about John. "The goal is to get the Department of Juvenile Justice and the state of Florida to provide some additional assistance and counseling for him."



"I pressed charges in order to get the ball rolling to get his mother to realize he needs additional help. I think it is now understood the additional help is needed," the paraprofessional wrote about John in a copy of the request to drop charges


What would be worse, letting an autistic child grow up without the help he needs or giving him a bit of a one time scare?

If you watch the full video the mother took, it's very obvious that she is also playing things up, which doesn't help the child stay calm. And that video also shows a little bit of how disruptive he is.

The police are quiet about what is happening, though. If there was more clarity about what was going on and what could happen (the state of Florida possibly helping with care for the child and his autism), maybe things wouldn't be so dramatic.

I don't know the legalities, but maybe this was the easiest way to get the kid some real help. Maybe it was the only way for this case. Maybe all of it was unnecessary. Maybe the paraprofessional just wanted to start shit. Maybe they actually wanted the kid to get help, but the mother refused. Judging by the way she handles the situation, she seems that she would be too stubborn to admit that her child needs some more care. What's more important, helping a child that needs help or letting a mother mother her own child? I personally care more for the child.

It's not like I know the entire situation, I'm not going to pretend that I do. Everyone else can, though. They're all very good at it.


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Uh, just saying "they have autism" is an incredibly flimsy argument. There are many forms of autism - so making them all sound like they're under one 'cannot take responsibility' umbrella is very thoughtless.


Also this
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I'm sure they are not going to throw him in prison, beat or execute him. Maybe he'll actually get the extra help he apparently needs. You can't go around hitting people. Maybe he will learn his lesson before something worse happens in the future. If people are to live in society they need to follow the rules of society, or be place somewhere that they can't harm themselves or others. The did wait too long to make an arrest though. He has probably forgotten all about it by now.
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Posted 4/21/17 , edited 4/21/17

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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

I am not sure if autism is a valid excuse in this situation, once we get the middle school thing going.

But yeah, the original incident was in October 2016, and they decided arrest him now? Why?


Something about the warrant or whatever took that long to process, according to the article I read about it yesterday.




Apparently, it is to provide him help, which should have already been available, but the arrest may have also been because of obtrusive parenting. If any has ever heard of Chris-chan (An internet star, so to speak), then I suppose I see their point in desperate measures. A great deal of getting help depends on parental consent. If the parent does nothing for the child, they won't learn.

*Shudders at the thought of Chris Chan*

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Canada is also not immune to this situation; I once read a story during 2012 where some Neo-Nazi principle were encouraging some form of 'black racism' against an autistic white student. I do not know the exact causes of the misbehavior of the autistic student in Florida. However, the autistic student from Canada was suffering from weakly emotional breakdown from constant harassment and assaults which lead him to develop some form of complex post-traumatic stress disorder (CPTSD). The emotional breakdown and CPTSD did result in disruptive behaviors but the principle hide the cause of the disruptive behaviors and make false report which indirectly imply that the autistic was behaving 'out of enjoyment'.
When the parents learn of this, they try to change school but the Neo-Nazi principle stop them by saying that it was "too late". The director board of education of that school make up many lies to stop the parent from reporting to the police which end with the "you can no longer report to the police because it is too late". To worsen the situation, the parents are of Christian faith so they cannot understand how CPTSD could lead to disruptive behaviors and subject their autistic child to intensive spanking, death threat, and humiliation for his misbehavior.
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*Shudders at the thought of Chris Chan*


I was unaware of this. Now that I have read through it I wish I could somehow unknow it.

What a sad, fucked up saga that is.


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Welcome to the modern world pal.
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This is horrible. It makes me infuriated.

When you are on the autistic spectrum, it's extremely difficult to process and withstand physical sensations, and it's hard enough trying to force yourself to allow people you know to touch you. It's can be unbearable to handle strangers touching you. OF COURSE HE HAD AN ANXIETY ATTACK. Of course he lashed out physically, probably the only way he knew how!

It's perfectly understandable that he was violent because of what the "professional handler" did. The handler should have known better and understood what dealing with a child with autism entails.

Yes, it would be in the mother's best interest to get her son into a behavior therapy course to help him learn coping mechanisms.

But the child shouldn't be punished for trying to protect himself in the only way he knew how.

And arresting a child with such issues will only leave the child traumatized and in a worse situation.

Source: this was my life growing up.
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