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Post Reply first round off french election done, next round on may 7th
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who do you think will win?
I hope le pen wins, I don't like the sound of macron tbh, plus he was part of the socialist party, and as we know socialism doesn't work
he also supports the same open door immigration policy that merkel supports, and we see how well that is working too
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Here are some things I would recommend you to look up:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Macron

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France)

Back to topic: I am obviously against the racist, xenophobic, Islamophobic policies that are the main aspects of Marine Le Pen's presidential campaign. While I appreciate it that she is questioning the efficiency of the European Union, the previously mentioned notions are a big turn-off. Using minorities and immigrants as scapegoats is a tactic often applied by candidates that base their politics on populism.
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Meh. LePen seems to have gotten more support lately and she's at least a more competent politician than the other nationalist who was recently elected but her policies don't seem like they would work all that well for France. Besides, she has been trying for so long with so little success and her dad also tried the same thing with the same result so I doubt we'll see much of a turnaround here.
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I second this wholeheartedly even though I know it won't happen. Also LePen apparently dropped out as leader for the Front National, not quite leader material, is she?
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French? Where is it? Is it the capital of France?
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I second this wholeheartedly even though I know it won't happen. Also LePen apparently dropped out as leader for the Front National, not quite leader material, is she?


I haven't heard of anything like that. Do you mind sharing the source?
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Nalaniel wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:

I second this wholeheartedly even though I know it won't happen. Also LePen apparently dropped out as leader for the Front National, not quite leader material, is she?


I haven't heard of anything like that. Do you mind sharing the source?


she did, but its apparently not perma
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redokami wrote:
who do you think will win?
I hope le pen wins, I don't like the sound of macron tbh, plus he was part of the socialist party, and as we know socialism doesn't work
he also supports the same open door immigration policy that merkel supports, and we see how well that is working too


Its a another centerist vs another racist far right populist.

Also, socialism works in literally every western democracy, you guys are the only ones that pretend to be allergic while not recognizing its already an integral part of your country.

Germany's "open door" policy is humanitarian in nature. Just in case you forget we're in the midst possibly the worst humanitarian crisis in modern history and you're launching missiles into it.

As for how Merkel's "open door" policy is working out; Of the notable terror attacks Germany has suffered, all 5 attackers entered Germany prior to Merkel's policy.
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Nalaniel wrote:


octorockandroll wrote:

I second this wholeheartedly even though I know it won't happen. Also LePen apparently dropped out as leader for the Front National, not quite leader material, is she?


I haven't heard of anything like that. Do you mind sharing the source?


http://www.lalibre.be/actu/france/marine-le-pen-au-jt-de-france-2-ce-soir-je-me-mets-en-conge-de-la-presidence-du-fn-video-58fe491fcd70e805130d82a1
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Nalaniel wrote:

Here are some things I would recommend you to look up:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Macron

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France)

Back to topic: I am obviously against the racist, xenophobic, Islamophobic policies that are the main aspects of Marine Le Pen's presidential campaign. While I appreciate it that she is questioning the efficiency of the European Union, the previously mentioned notions are a big turn-off. Using minorities and immigrants as scapegoats is a tactic often applied by candidates that base their politics on populism.


Racism is 100% completely natural and has helped us survive since the dawn of human creation.
xenophobia is also 100% completely natural and has helped tribes/civilizations survive since the dawn of human creation/
Islamophobia is a dumb made up word but is 100% completely justified since muslims have raped en mass young british/german/swedish and European women and children for years and every time it has been covered up. just look up rotherham UK or glasgow Scotland. or all the child rapes in Sweden lately. none of it being covered. it is also 100% justified from all the constant terrorist attacks going on every week. it has gotten to the point where it is the norm now.
immigrants and minorities ( soon to be majorities ) are a problem and without doing something now. the peoples that make europe what they are will be replaced - which is the greatest injustice/genocide ever committed in human history. the countries and nations with thousands of years of rich history that countless generations build for their children. and that tens of millions of men died in ww1 and ww2 to secure their homelands/traditions/values/way of life - will all be for nothing. all that history gone. wiped from the pages of history.
if marine le pen is not elected now and if macron wins then the alternative in the near future will be alot more extreme and alot more bloody.
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Nalaniel wrote:

Here are some things I would recommend you to look up:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Macron

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_Party_(France)

Back to topic: I am obviously against the racist, xenophobic, Islamophobic policies that are the main aspects of Marine Le Pen's presidential campaign. While I appreciate it that she is questioning the efficiency of the European Union, the previously mentioned notions are a big turn-off. Using minorities and immigrants as scapegoats is a tactic often applied by candidates that base their politics on populism.


Racism is 100% completely natural and has helped us survive since the dawn of human creation.
xenophobia is also 100% completely natural and has helped tribes/civilizations survive since the dawn of human creation/
Islamophobia is a dumb made up word but is 100% completely justified since muslims have raped en mass young british/german/swedish and European women and children for years and every time it has been covered up. just look up rotherham UK or glasgow Scotland. or all the child rapes in Sweden lately. none of it being covered. it is also 100% justified from all the constant terrorist attacks going on every week. it has gotten to the point where it is the norm now.
immigrants and minorities ( soon to be majorities ) are a problem and without doing something now. the peoples that make europe what they are will be replaced - which is the greatest injustice/genocide ever committed in human history. the countries and nations with thousands of years of rich history that countless generations build for their children. and that tens of millions of men died in ww1 and ww2 to secure their homelands/traditions/values/way of life - will all be for nothing. all that history gone. wiped from the pages of history.
if marine le pen is not elected now and if macron wins then the alternative in the near future will be alot more extreme and alot more bloody.


most people will think this sounds extreme and un real, but its true a native population cant survive if their birthrate is below the sustainable level ONTOP of having a HUGE en masse of immigration into the country, yes there has always been immigration but never at this level, Europe will never be the same again after this, ....if we should even call it Europe a few decades from now
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Merci beaucoup.


redokami wrote:

she did, but its apparently not perma


It seems a bit odd. I wonder what exactly she is trying to accomplish with such a move.


ImDivinity wrote:

Racism is 100% completely natural and has helped us survive since the dawn of human creation.
xenophobia is also 100% completely natural and has helped tribes/civilizations survive since the dawn of human creation/
Islamophobia is a dumb made up word but is 100% completely justified since muslims have raped en mass young british/german/swedish and European women and children for years and every time it has been covered up. just look up rotherham UK or glasgow Scotland. or all the child rapes in Sweden lately. none of it being covered. it is also 100% justified from all the constant terrorist attacks going on every week. it has gotten to the point where it is the norm now.
immigrants and minorities ( soon to be majorities ) are a problem and without doing something now. the peoples that make europe what they are will be replaced - which is the greatest injustice/genocide ever committed in human history. the countries and nations with thousands of years of rich history that countless generations build for their children. and that tens of millions of men died in ww1 and ww2 to secure their homelands/traditions/values/way of life - will all be for nothing. all that history gone. wiped from the pages of history.
if marine le pen is not elected now and if macron wins then the alternative in the near future will be alot more extreme and alot more bloody.


Racism and xenophobia are not completely natural. The trait of being wary of one's surrounding, especially the people and characteristics that are foreign to an individual, is natural and can be found in every animal, but racism and xenophobia means taking that caution, fear and uncertainty to another level. Here are the definitions of racism: 1) "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior", 2) "the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races" (https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/racism). Xenophobia: "fear or hatred of foreigners, people from different cultures, or strangers" (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/xenophobia). What I am trying to say is that basic knowledge (or just tiny bits of knowledge) of a religion, culture, race, etc. is required to be racist or xenophobic, but that refutes your point that it is a natural thing. You don't know from the beginning that some things are "bad" -- you learn it.

Muslim is a very broad term. You cannot possibly make such a generalisation based on a person's religion. Culture and social upbringing are usually much more detrimental in attempting to understand an individual and their actions. Then again, you could try and make the claim that the 1.7 billion Muslims on the planet are all morally unacceptable human beings who thrive in the areas crime and criminality, but that would be ridiculous, don't you think?

And I honestly doubt that the news are purposely covering those stories up. All news agencies want is to make profit. Have you not noticed that whenever the perpetrator of a crime is a Muslim, it is emphasised in the title or right below it? On the other hand, if a white person commits a crime, you never see what religion they practise. That reeks heavily of fear-mongering.

Actually, never mind. I just noticed that this was completely off-topic. I deeply apologise.

Basically, the point you are trying to make is that white people are good and everyone else needs to be cleansed and eradicated in order to ensure a quiet and peaceful society where everybody prospers, huh? I am honestly not sure what to say to such a twisted notion. I would whip out the data saying that immigrants are very likely to assimilate into the society of the country they move to, especially if the government encourages such procedures by offering education and a warm welcome. But hey, if I were to do that, you would probably accuse me of using fake websites, rigged polls and the infamous buzzword we all love: fake news.

Also, here is the definition of the term genocide: "the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group" (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/genocide). I hope you don't genuinely believe that the poor white people (who are and will be a majority on planet Earth for a long time to come) are victims of Islam and minority persecution. You know, it is practically impossible for minorities to do such a thing due to their position in society.
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Rooting for Marine Epipen.
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Rooting for Marine Epipen.

gotta get rid of this long lasting allergic reaction called the EU

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I will make a wager:

Most Trump supporters on the forums will want Le Pen to win.
Most who voted anything other than Trump will want anyone else to win.

Lets see if I am right!
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