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i do not doubt there is varying IQ levels based on species or in this case, race


You really, really should have some doubt.



do you think humans are some special case, and can not be like animals?
edit: we literally had multiple species of humans a tsome point in history, do you not think some of that dna has been passed down?
its confusing having to say "like animals" we really are animals, humans just have this superiority complex tbh , we shit, we eat, we mate lol, we just generally are smarter than other species
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Merci beaucoup.


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she did, but its apparently not perma


It seems a bit odd. I wonder what exactly she is trying to accomplish with such a move.


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Racism is 100% completely natural and has helped us survive since the dawn of human creation.
xenophobia is also 100% completely natural and has helped tribes/civilizations survive since the dawn of human creation/
Islamophobia is a dumb made up word but is 100% completely justified since muslims have raped en mass young british/german/swedish and European women and children for years and every time it has been covered up. just look up rotherham UK or glasgow Scotland. or all the child rapes in Sweden lately. none of it being covered. it is also 100% justified from all the constant terrorist attacks going on every week. it has gotten to the point where it is the norm now.
immigrants and minorities ( soon to be majorities ) are a problem and without doing something now. the peoples that make europe what they are will be replaced - which is the greatest injustice/genocide ever committed in human history. the countries and nations with thousands of years of rich history that countless generations build for their children. and that tens of millions of men died in ww1 and ww2 to secure their homelands/traditions/values/way of life - will all be for nothing. all that history gone. wiped from the pages of history.
if marine le pen is not elected now and if macron wins then the alternative in the near future will be alot more extreme and alot more bloody.


Racism and xenophobia are not completely natural. The trait of being wary of one's surrounding, especially the people and characteristics that are foreign to an individual, is natural and can be found in every animal, but racism and xenophobia means taking that caution, fear and uncertainty to another level. Here are the definitions of racism: 1) "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior", 2) "the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races" (https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/racism). Xenophobia: "fear or hatred of foreigners, people from different cultures, or strangers" (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/xenophobia).

Muslim is a very broad term. You cannot possibly make such a generalisation based on a person's religion. Culture and social upbringing are usually much more detrimental in attempting to understand an individual and their actions. Then again, you could try and make the claim that the 1.7 billion Muslims on the planet are all morally unacceptable human beings who thrive in the areas crime and criminality, but that would be ridiculous, don't you think?

And I honestly doubt that the news are purposely covering those stories up. All news agencies want is to make profit. Have you not noticed that whenever the perpetrator of a crime is a Muslim, it is emphasised in the title or right below it? On the other hand, if a white person commits a crime, you never see what religion they practise. That reeks heavily of fear-mongering.

Actually, never mind. I just noticed that this was completely off-topic. I deeply apologise.

Basically, the point you are trying to make is that white people are good and everyone else needs to be cleansed and eradicated in order to ensure a quiet and peaceful society where everybody prospers, huh? I am honestly not sure what to say to such a twisted notion. I would whip out the data saying that immigrants are very likely to assimilate into the society of the country they move to, especially if the government encourages such procedures by offering education and a warm welcome. But hey, if I were to do that, you would probably accuse me of using fake websites, rigged polls and the infamous buzzword we all love: fake news.

Also, here is the definition of the term genocide: "the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group" (http://www.dictionary.com/browse/genocide). I hope you don't genuinely believe that the poor white people (who are and will be a majority on planet Earth for a long time to come) are victims of Islam and minority persecution. You know, it is practically impossible for minorities to do such a thing due to their position in society.


the will accuse you of nothing x). White people make up less than 9% of the global population yet all white countries MUST be diverse and multiculteral. the term genocide of which you provided a definition for IS under the definition you posted going on in Europe right now under the name The Kalergi Plan. a deliberate "replacement of the populations of europe with a low iq mixed race population that will be easier to control for the ruling elite" - real quote from Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi.
i understand empathy and love is your reason for posting what you said but it won't matter in the coming years. either muslims take over and our people are massacred and desecrated in their own countries ( basicly south africa/rhodasia 2.0) or white europeans will cleanse europe of these foreigners. it is inevitable.
under sharia law you can't eat pork, you can't have dogs or puppies, you can't celebrate christmas/easter, you can't listen to music, you can't drink beer, can't wipe your ass with tissue but have to use your hand but you can have sex and marry children/ throw gays of off rooftops/ have sex with goats/ kill the infidels/ take sex slaves and multiple wives ( a harem) take slaves for yourself and the spoils of war. behead people for denying that islam is the one true religion. this is what the quran says you can do. you really want these people pouring into europe? along with the subsaharan africans with an iq below 70 which is classes as the pinnacle of being mentally retarded?
but yes you are right it is off topic.

i hope le pen wins.



The Low IQ Mixed Race plan seems to be highly specious understanding of many things, both on its understanding of IQ (or rather, the lack of our understanding of IQ) and how it ties into racial genetics over cultural environmental ones.

If anything, it is entirely left up to chance, and would likely be incredibly slow and last many life times for significant breeding.

It is easy to blame genetics, but that is what baseline thinkers do, and generally people who have not looked too much into the science, especially concern racial trends.

In honesty, I suspect it is an unfounded conspiracy theory.

there are different species of animals, and the IQ varies among them - though we are animals too lol-
there are also, and have been different species of humans, which undoubtly had varying IQs, which bred and mixed, remnants of some of those species can probably, more than likely be still found in dna today, i do not doubt there is varying IQ levels based on species or in this case, race
example: dogs, there are many breeds of dogs, and some dogs have higher IQ's
edit again: do not get me wrong, im not saying ___ race is better, all im pointing out is that varying IQ is not a myth and can be true


Races and species are hardly related concepts, even those closer to us. They are not usually treated as such, other than a passing footnote not to confuse one or the other. Race is treated more as a social phenomenon, species as a differing branch of study.

You have to consider this. IQ differences may be apparent in test studies, but the question relies on what is causing the difference. Genetics is not entirely blameless, but incredibly exaggerated, and considering the nature of measuring IQ, almost worthless, and considering the realm. Racial genetics is even more difficult to consider on a large scale, and far more subjected to bias.

We do not even give dogs IQ tests. They are dogs, not humans. Most of the research into innate intelligence and IQ is for the benefit of doctors and careworkers who work with the intellectually disabled.
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Posted 4/24/17

redokami wrote:


runec wrote:


redokami wrote:
i do not doubt there is varying IQ levels based on species or in this case, race


You really, really should have some doubt.



do you think humans are some special case, and can not be like animals?
edit: we literally had multiple species of humans a tsome point in history, do you not think some of that dna has been passed down?
its confusing having to say "like animals" we really are animals, humans just have this superiority complex tbh , we shit, we eat, we mate lol, we just generally are smarter than other species


No, but he does think comparing animal speciation to clines within a species is stupid and that's because it is.
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Le Pen is France's last hope. Germany and the EU is killing France with their horrible policies.



I hope the French don't surrender to Germany a second time in under a century.
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redokami wrote:
do you think humans are some special case, and can not be like animals?
edit: we literally had multiple species of humans a tsome point in history, do you not think some of that dna has been passed down?


Of course it has. It's been scientifically proven it has. But unless you're suggesting we somehow try to quantify intelligence by Denisovan or Neanderthal DNA you're barking up the wrong tree. And even if you want to bark up that tree you're going to have a hard time trying to prove that the remnant 1-4% or so of DNA left in the average person's genome is having any affect on their intelligence.



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I think a great deal of this forgets about that of how genetics are spread, how they are expressed in response to the environment such as epigenetic influences, and simply the environment the one ways raised in.


Indeed, there are so so many factors at work. From epigentics to simple childhood nutrition.



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Then, there is the theory that the mass immigration is to bred out nearly pure whites for a more easily corraled populace due to Intelligence Quotient, which is hardly a useful measure anyway, unless he was referring to an amorphous definition of innate intelligence.


Which makes no sense whatsoever as from a genetic standpoint a larger pool with more variation actually makes for stronger genetic outcomes in subsequent generations.

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Le Pen is France's last hope. Germany and the EU is killing France with their horrible policies.



I hope the French don't surrender to Germany a second time in under a century.


she looks like a armored mercy from overwatch in this pic lol
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Back when I was in school, if you used wikipedia as a citation the professor would laugh at you, but that's beside the point.
You shouldn't be trusting people that give money and armaments to terrorists, or people that spy on you under the guise of 'its for your own safety citizen'. Or in the case of European 'IC', trust people that let known extremists roam free to commit terror attacks while they kick in the doors of people who criticize Islam and arrest them.
I mean, come on.
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Back when I was in school, if you used wikipedia as a citation the professor would laugh at you, but that's beside the point.
You shouldn't be trusting people that give money and armaments to terrorists, or people that spy on you under the guise of 'its for your own safety citizen'. Or in the case of European 'IC', trust people that let known extremists roam free to commit terror attacks while they kick in the doors of people who criticize Islam and arrest them.
I mean, come on.


Because your sources are to be more credible. The school craze against Wikipedia died a long time, mainly because said teacher had not idea what Wikipedia is aside from those news snippets.

Of course, it holds true today, but damning its credibility is hardly as useful as it was back then, especially on an internet forum.
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who do you think will win?
I hope le pen wins, I don't like the sound of macron tbh, plus he was part of the socialist party, and as we know socialism doesn't work
he also supports the same open door immigration policy that merkel supports, and we see how well that is working too


Its a another centerist vs another racist far right populist.

Also, socialism works in literally every western democracy, you guys are the only ones that pretend to be allergic while not recognizing its already an integral part of your country.

Germany's "open door" policy is humanitarian in nature. Just in case you forget we're in the midst possibly the worst humanitarian crisis in modern history and you're launching missiles into it.

As for how Merkel's "open door" policy is working out; Of the notable terror attacks Germany has suffered, all 5 attackers entered Germany prior to Merkel's policy.


You mean another nutjob liberal vs a nationalist.

Its not very humanitarian to the people of its nation. They are forcing violence and a culture war upon their own people.

And crime rates have skyrocketed. They fail to prosecute because they are a poor refugee and allow them to live by a different set of standards.
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Le Pen does not appear to be too extreme. I do not know her views on issues. She did kick her father out of the party for being too extreme and uncompromising, and tried to reform the party to be more centrist.

Whether or not it is enough remains to be seen.

Macron is taking a similar approach and remade a party that is more transpartisan in nature than his previous affiliation with the French Socialist party.
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Back when I was in school, if you used wikipedia as a citation the professor would laugh at you, but that's beside the point.


Feel free to click on the sources.



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You mean another nutjob liberal vs a nationalist.


Macron is a centerist. Neither the traditional liberals nor conservatives made it to the run off.

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Rujikin wrote:
You mean another nutjob liberal vs a nationalist.


Macron is a centerist. Neither the traditional liberals nor conservatives made it to the run off.



Come on man, you should know by now that everyone who doesn't agree with DeadlyOats, I mean Boxer, I mean MysteryMiss, I mean Rujikin is an extreme liberal antifa supporting terrorist
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Come on man, you should know by now that everyone who doesn't agree with DeadlyOats, I mean Boxer, I mean MysteryMiss, I mean Rujikin is an extreme liberal antifa supporting terrorist :P


Ah, yes, of course. My apologies.

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Rujikin wrote:

Le Pen is France's last hope. Germany and the EU is killing France with their horrible policies.


I hope the French don't surrender to Germany a second time in under a century.


I'm not sure how good an idea it is to juxtapose anyone with Jean de Arc, considering how her campaign ended.
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Rujikin wrote:

Le Pen is France's last hope. Germany and the EU is killing France with their horrible policies.


I hope the French don't surrender to Germany a second time in under a century.


I'm not sure how good an idea it is to juxtapose anyone with Jean de Arc, considering how her campaign ended.


I mean I agree with you but how is that more of an inappropriate comparison than comparing adopting similar policies as another country to WWII?
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