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I feel like there are different types of immortality. Anyone else feel the same?


For example: Ivan is a superhuman being that is also immortal. But it turns out that Ivan can only live to be a million years old then afterwards he dies.

Is Ivan immortal or simply something else entirely?


What do you think?


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Well, the word says its own meaning:

Im-mortal

Im: Expressing negation.
Mortal: Subject to death.

Which means it is not mortal, so it he dies even after a gazillion of years, he is not truly immortal but mortal.
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Oh yeah, there are definitely different types of "immortality."

In the case of Ivan, it sounds like he specifically is invulnerable, meaning he couldn't be injured and, by extension, killed, but he could still be affected by the effects of telomere depletion due to cell division, which would result in death by aging.
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qualeshia3 wrote:

I feel like there are different types of immortality. Anyone else feel the same?



There are certainly different definitions of "mortal," so duh. If "mortal" might mean several different things, then clearly "not mortal" might mean at least as many different things.

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mortal.

Immortality means you can't die.
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i've always consider immortal to generally mean ether you can't die or it would be very hard for you to die not simply for example elves are often called immortal but most only have longer life spans then humans but usually can die jsut as easily by for example stabbed falling maybe a bit more resistant to disease or poison but usually not immune i would call what elves have close to eternal youth or something then immortal assuming they don't have a set life span like for example most types only live on average at most a few hundred years rarely going past 1000 though some don't have a set life span then they might be able to claim to have eternal youth or something
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dragonlord1234 wrote:

i've always consider immortal to generally mean ether you can't die or it would be very hard for you to die not simply for example elves are often called immortal but most only have longer life spans then humans but usually can die jsut as easily by for example stabbed falling maybe a bit more resistant to disease or poison but usually not immune i would call what elves have close to eternal youth or something then immortal assuming they don't have a set life span like for example most types only live on average at most a few hundred years rarely going past 1000 though some don't have a set life span then they might be able to claim to have eternal youth or something


So what do you consider someone like Ivan?
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I'd still consider him mortal. He just lives longer than everybody else around him.
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He has longevity but is not immortal.
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Maybe he is invulnerable during his million years so he can't be killed (during that time), but he's not immortal because eventually he will die.
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I think we need a thread to thoroughly explain what immortality is. And why it's not ideal for a human being to be immortal also.
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anfex wrote:

Well, the word says its own meaning:

Im-mortal

Im: Expressing negation.
Mortal: Subject to death.

Which means it is not mortal, so it he dies even after a gazillion of years, he is not truly immortal but mortal.


Immortals can die
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Posted 4/26/17 , edited 4/26/17

descloud wrote:

I think we need a thread to thoroughly explain what immortality is. And why it's not ideal for a human being to be immortal also.


It not being ideal is highly subjective on the front regarding ones self.

Society and immortality is well neither positive or negative there are good arguments for both sides.

I'm all for Human immortality (funny as its my life goal) so I may be more biased towards the positives.
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Kira0309 wrote:

mortal.

Immortality means you can't die.


Immortals can die depending on the type



Edit how does one multi quote on phone rather not post 3 posts in a row bleh
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Ryulightorb wrote:


descloud wrote:

I think we need a thread to thoroughly explain what immortality is. And why it's not ideal for a human being to be immortal also.


It not being ideal is highly subjective on the front regarding ones self.

Society and immortality is well neither positive or negative there are good arguments for both sides.

I'm all for Human immortality (funny as its my life goal) so I may be more biased towards the positives.


Well you are entitled to your life goals and such.

But we really NEED a thread on explaining immortality because it's appalling how many don't understand what it means. Or for some reason, forget there are multiple forms of it.
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