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USA, Mexico, and Canada agree to renegotiate NAFTA
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Were renegotiating NAFTA and hopefully this time we don't get screwed.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/27/trump-agrees-to-renegotiate-nafta-with-canada-mexico-leaders.html


President Trump and the leaders of Mexico and Canada agreed Wednesday to renegotiate the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), the White House said Wednesday night.

"it is my privilege to bring NAFTA up to date through renegotiation," Trump said in a statement. "It is an honor to deal with both [Mexican] President [Enrique] Peña Nieto and [Canadian] Prime Minister [Justin] Trudeau, and I believe that the end result will make all three countries stronger and better."

The White House added that Trump "agreed not to terminate NAFTA at this time" and that all three leaders ""agreed to proceed swiftly, according to their required internal procedures, to enable the renegotiation" of the trade deal to "the benefit of all three countries."

Trump repeatedly railed against the two-decade-old trade agreement on the campaign trail, describing it repeatedly as a "disaster."

Earlier Wednesday, sources told Fox News that the White House had drafted a notification signaling the United States' intention to withdraw from NAFTA. The document would have given the leaders of Canada and Mexico six months' notice of the administration's decision to exit from the agreement.

On Monday, the administration announced it would slap hefty tariffs on softwood lumber being imported from Canada. Trump has also been railing against changes in Canadian milk product pricing that he says are hurting the American dairy industry.

Trump told The Associated Press in an interview last week that he plans to either renegotiate or terminate NAFTA, which he and other critics blame for wiping out U.S. manufacturing jobs because it allowed companies to move factories to Mexico to take advantage of low-wage labor.

"I am very upset with NAFTA. I think NAFTA has been a catastrophic trade deal for the United States, trading agreement for the United States. It hurts us with Canada, and it hurts us with Mexico," he said.

The Trump administration last month submitted a vague set of guidelines to Congress for renegotiating NAFTA, disappointing those who were expecting Trump to demand a major overhaul.

In an eight-page draft letter to Congress, acting U.S. Trade Representative Stephen Vaughn wrote that the administration intended to start talking with Mexico and Canada about making changes to the pact, which took effect in 1994.

The letter spelled out few details and stuck with broad principles. But it appeared to keep much of the existing agreement in place, including private tribunals that allow companies to challenge national laws on the grounds that they inhibit trade — a provision that critics say allows companies to get around environmental and labor laws.
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Ah yes. Free trade.
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What odd is that Canada and Mexico are connected to USA.. And we haven't take over those two to expand America. I understand that Mexico is unwanted country and the land are very poorly...

Was wondering if anyone thoughout the History in USA have thought about taking over Canada to expand America land.
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Time to see how much the renegotiation benefit Trump owned companies.
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qwueri wrote:
Time to see how much the renegotiation benefit Trump owned companies.


I sincerely don't think he knows what NAFTA is so this should be interesting.



SANGER: Would you pull out of Nafta?

TRUMP: If I don’t get a change, I would pull out of Nafta in a split second. Nafta is signed by Bill Clinton, perhaps the worst trade deal ever signed in the history of this country. It’s the worst trade deal ever signed in the history of this country and one of the worst trade deals ever signed anywhere in the world. Nafta is a disaster. You have to understand, I just campaigned, as you probably read, and I won all these states, and one of the reasons was because of Nafta. Because Nafta has drained manufacturing out of New York State, out of Pennsylvania, out of Ohio, out of so many different places. It’s drained. And these companies have gone to Mexico, and they’ve gone, they’ve left with the jobs. David, I have statisticians, and I know, like if I went to Pennsylvania, I say, “Give me the statistics on what is going on with respect to manufacturing.” Numbers — 45, 55, 65, I have states that are so bad. New England. Look at New England, what happened. Nafta has been a disaster for this country. And a disaster for the worker and Nafta is one of the reasons that, you know, there are people that haven’t had a wage increase 18 years in real wages. Actually, they’re lower, some are working two jobs, working much harder, then making less and they’re older. It’s supposed to work the opposite. You’re making more, you’re making more I hope.

HABERMAN: What kind of change could you make in terms of Nafta without fully withdrawing from it? How could you?

TRUMP: You’ve got to be fair to the country. Everyone is leaving. Carrier just announced they’re leaving. Ford is building a massive plant. So I have a friend who builds plants and then I have to go. I have a friend who builds plants, that’s what he does, he’s the biggest in the world, he builds plants like automobile plants, computer plants, that’s all he does. He doesn’t build apartments, he doesn’t build office space, he builds plants. I said to him the other day, “How are you doing?” He goes, “Unbelievable.” Oh, great, that’s good, thinking about the United States, right, because he’s based in the United States. So I said, “Good, so the country is doing well.” He said, “No, no, not our country, you’ve got to see what I’m doing in Mexico.” He said: “The business there is unbelievable, the new plants we are building. People moving from the United States.” That’s what he does. One-story plants. You understand?


I'm not sure which part I like more. The part where he just quite literally gives numbers with zero context as if it means anything. Or the story about The Friend Who Just Builds Plants(tm).

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What odd is that Canada and Mexico are connected to USA.. And we haven't take over those two to expand America. I understand that Mexico is unwanted country and the land are very poorly...

Was wondering if anyone thoughout the History in USA have thought about taking over Canada to expand America land.


In the war of 1812 we had two objectives. Take the Midwest And try taking over Canada. The Canada part didn't go too well but we got the Midwest.

Also I don't want the braindead liberals of Canada. Did you see the cuck of a prime minister they have? The guy said that if ISIS attacks Canada they will do nothing.
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Also I don't want the braindead liberals of Canada. Did you see the cuck of a prime minister they have? The guy said that if ISIS attacks Canada they will do nothing.


...you know we've been helping you bomb them, right? That we're on the ground in Iraq with you, right? That we're even in Mosul, right?





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Rujikin wrote:


JanusCascade wrote:

What odd is that Canada and Mexico are connected to USA.. And we haven't take over those two to expand America. I understand that Mexico is unwanted country and the land are very poorly...

Was wondering if anyone thoughout the History in USA have thought about taking over Canada to expand America land.


In the war of 1812 we had two objectives. Take the Midwest And try taking over Canada. The Canada part didn't go too well but we got the Midwest.

Also I don't want the braindead liberals of Canada. Did you see the cuck of a prime minister they have? The guy said that if ISIS attacks Canada they will do nothing.


Why the fuck do you people have to make me defend Trudeau? I don't like Trudeau, I don't want Trudeau, but you people make the most idiotic off-base fabrications about him so of course I'm gonna call your ass out on it. My only hope is that nobody in an important position believes your moronic lies.
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Well good and besides, a lot of countries have already been trading and interacting with each other for centuries (without India, the Portuguese wouldn't be able to have spices for their bland food and that's why everybody has to trade).
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Does Canada make anything? I've never seen anything "Made in Canada." Nor have I seen anything, "Imported from Canada." What do you guys do up there, anyway?
Posted 4/27/17 , edited 4/27/17
Wrigley's chewing gum plant closed in Toronto looks like we got it back in Georgia.
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Why the fuck do you people have to make me defend Trudeau? I don't like Trudeau, I don't want Trudeau, but you people make the most idiotic off-base fabrications about him so of course I'm gonna call your ass out on it. My only hope is that nobody in an important position believes your moronic lies.

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Does Canada make anything? I've never seen anything "Made in Canada." Nor have I seen anything, "Imported from Canada." What do you guys do up there, anyway?


Yeah, it's not like El Presidente Naranja has had any interaction with Canadian products such as pipping oil, putting tariffs on lumber, or complaining about Canadian dairy prices.
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negotiate wha Germans make the best brew!
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Just imagine buying a skid of 16 Ft 2x4 lumber, but paying double

I knew it was coming, but now people building homes are fuck ed.

They don't care anymore. What's the meaning of doing all of this when it would not decrease deficit. This is just trying to see how much we can put up with until someone finally breaks.
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