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i cant help but think that despite the older art-style the original series has the better production and style.
i find that ultimate plays to gag and spectacle a bit much, and the animation seems... cheap, or perhaps overdone.
i'm interested in seeing what other people think of the differences.
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TBH I don't agree with anything you said. It'd be like saying FMA had better animation than FMA: Brotherhood. At least that's how I view it.
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Hellsing is a story about an invincible, gun-toting vampire slaying his own kind, members of a militant splinter faction of the Catholic Church, and Nazis for his own amusement in slow, torturous ways. He does this alongside a busty, leggy blonde partner in a police girl outfit (complete with miniskirt) whose weapon of choice is a BFG about twice as long as she is tall. One of the main antagonists is an Irish Catholic priest who openly longs to reopen the Crusades, shrugs off getting shot like he's being bitten by flies, and uses bayonets as throwing daggers. If you look at the manga, there's a little bonus miniseries that runs across multiple volumes depicting the exploits of two female assassins for the Catholic Church killing the undead, Communists, and all sorts of other things, one of whom does so dressed as a nun (habit and all) while wielding a freaking katana. Did I mention she's also a berserker who goes into manic frenzies when provoked?

The spectacle is the point of Hellsing. That's the product.

That's why I like Ultimate so much better, because it has all the gruesome spectacle and dark comedy that people who loved the manga expected with the first release. It has its priorities straight, and it delivers fights between exactly the people we always wanted to see fighting in animation. Incognito's got nothing on Millennium.
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I agree. Firstly I think that the original show Alucard isn't seen at the potential he could be but in Hellsing: Ultimate I believe that is when they nailed the character and also the increased art production due to the times when the actual animation was made is a bonus. Secondly, Alucard is a great character in my opinion and is great in both seasons.
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Posted 4/28/17
He is a great character overall but was improved so much more in the second season.
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Ultimate had 3 different studios work on the OVAs the quality started to go a bit down hill near the end.

I do a agree at the tv series has a great overall style to it thought the story was lacking.. and the soundtrack is great.

If I rember correctly I think 5-8 were worked on my MADHOUSE.
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BlueOni wrote:

Hellsing is a story about an invincible, gun-toting vampire slaying his own kind, members of a militant splinter faction of the Catholic Church, and Nazis for his own amusement in slow, torturous ways. He does this alongside a busty, leggy blonde partner in a police girl outfit (complete with miniskirt) whose weapon of choice is a BFG about twice as long as she is tall. One of the main antagonists is an Irish Catholic priest who openly longs to reopen the Crusades, shrugs off getting shot like he's being bitten by flies, and uses bayonets as throwing daggers. If you look at the manga, there's a little bonus miniseries that runs across multiple volumes depicting the exploits of two female assassins for the Catholic Church killing the undead, Communists, and all sorts of other things, one of whom does so dressed as a nun (habit and all) while wielding a freaking katana. Did I mention she's also a berserker who goes into manic frenzies when provoked?

The spectacle is the point of Hellsing. That's the product.

That's why I like Ultimate so much better, because it has all the gruesome spectacle and dark comedy that people who loved the manga expected with the first release. It has its priorities straight, and it delivers fights between exactly the people we always wanted to see fighting in animation. Incognito's got nothing on Millennium.


I also appreciate Hellsing Ultimate more because it actually has much stronger character bits towards the end. Alucard in Ultimate is a much more interesting character particularly during his final fight with Anderson. Alucard in the original anime was a bit more one note, whereas in Ultimate they expand on his ultimate motivations. Alucard is the ultimate vampire, the ultimate monster and he's been one long enough to realize that's not something to be proud of. There's a reason he actually genuinely admires humanity, or at least it's best examples. There's a great speech where Integra recalls her father telling her that for all their bluster he'd come to the realization that monsters were basically just whining spoiled children or something of the sort. Alucard I think realizes this as well in the series which is why he gets so upset
. In spite of how powerful he is, Alucard sees himself as a wretch and a weakling who became a vampire as the easy way out of the hardships of his life. He rejected his physical weakness as a human, but forgot that the entire beauty of the human spirit lies in persevering in spite of that weakness. It gives him a sort of nuance beyond just being the ultra badass vampire with guns. In many ways Alucard is the sort of petulant child who couldn't deal with his own human frailty in the way Sir Hellsing had described, and who know recognizes that. It gives the story's final chapters a suprising amount of downright beautiful and emotional moments for someone who might be watching expecting the exploitative ultraviolence and gore Kouta Hirano is known for.
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That's all very true. I suppose in trying to boil the series down to its essence I ended up actually boiling some of that essence away. A big part of what kept me coming was Seras' struggle to cope with her newfound circumstances and desperation to hold on to even small vestiges of her lost humanity. Even if the ultraviolence seems to have been the big draw, I was selling the series short by saying that's what it's all about.
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Posted 4/28/17
My brother and I aren't exactly huge Hellsing fans, but we used to get more hyped up about the TV series from 2001 than we did with Ultimate. Some DBZ fanboy said that the 2001 TV series was mediocre and I agree [mostly].
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Posted 4/28/17
In my humble opinion despite Hellsing being 15 years old the animation and story still hold up well compared to CGI crap released last couple years. When animation was hand drawn and studios had bigger budgets some good old days well back to my rocking chair and get off my lawn
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