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Post Reply WTF France. Macron, French Presidential Candidates, is married to his high school teacher
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As you may not know France is having their presidential elections soon. Le Pen is running against Macron.



Well Macron has one of the most fucked up PUBLIC back stories I have read of politicians.


Macron is married to Brigitte Trogneux, 24 years his senior,[100] who was his teacher in La Providence High School in Amiens.[101][102] They first met when he was a 15-year-old student in her class, and she was 39. She was his 40 year old married teacher with 3 kids, one of which was Macron's same age and was in the same class too. They were officially a couple only after he turned 17.[103][104] His parents initially attempted to separate the couple by sending him away to Paris to finish the final year of his schooling, as they felt his youth made this relationship inappropriate,[6][104] but the couple stayed together after he graduated, and were eventually married in 2007. His best man was the late Henry Hermand (1924–2016), a businessman who loaned €550,000 to Macron for the purchase of his first apartment in Paris as he was Inspector of Finances. Hermand also let Macron use some of his offices on the Avenue des Champs Élysées in Paris for his movement En Marche!.[105][106] Macron and Trogneux live with her three children from a previous marriage.[9] He's now a step grandfather of 7 at the age of 39.


I wonder how his "wife" isn't in jail from all of this. Something really messed up is/was going on there. Is this allowed in French laws?
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Just googled it and it looks like the age of consent in France is 15.It seems in most european countries, the consent law is 14 to 16.Whether thats too young or not is up for debate, though personaly,i do think it's too young.
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Still trying to figure out if op is Russian or not. Kappa.
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ronin99 wrote:

Just googled it and it looks like the age of consent in France is 15.It seems in most european countries, the consent law is 14 to 16.Whether thats too young or not is up for debate, though,personaly,i do think it's too young.


I think its way too young when you factor in someone being old enough to be your mother. If they were at least around the same age it wouldn't be as big of a deal... But her child was as old as him @[email protected]


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Still trying to figure out if op is Russian or not. Kappa.


Oh no am found out. Must drink cyanide pill with voda *chug chug chug chug*..... *waits a bit*.... Blayt cyanide pill wasn't strong enough *chugs vodka*.
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Well, let us be honest, pedophile has become slang for anyone fucking another who is under 18. The medical consensus defines it as being attracted to typical children prepubescent, while most 15 year old clearly developed some traits characteristic of a grown man. The law appears to be against sexual intercourse anyway, which they may or may not have done. It is also possible that Macron is enamored with her philosophy and has aligned himself solely due to her influence; I cannot say for sure, I do not know. None of us do. I just think if there is anything disturbing about this, it is cross between fucking your mentor and being her protege.

I think it is a bit young and creepy judged by what is possible, but a great deal of my legal concern is about the work ethic at schools, if anything else. I am not too sure if applying statutory rape here, if it did happen. I do think teachers and students are a special case, similar to a boss and his subordinates. One should be out of school; sexual activity and such by a teacher there will greatly interfere with that dynamic.
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The age of consent is 15 in France. From an ethical standpoint, its inappropriate and unacceptable for a teacher to be in a relationship with a student, but as far as legality goes what they did was completely fine (and I suspect French sexual norms are a bit looser than they are here anyway). Plus this is common knowledge about Macron and nobody in France really cared enough over it to not vote for him. That should be a good indication that isn't as controversial to the French as you're making it out to be.

If you think its creepy then whatever, we're all entitled to our opinion. As far as the French see it though, its a complete non-story and non-issue at this point. In the grand scheme of things the outrage of us foreigners doesn't really matter.
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Yeah, the fucking your mentor/guardian thing reminds me of Kazami Yuuji from Grisaia. They want to push him as a subversion to Gary Stus, but this is enormously undermined by the volume of girls he fucks, and WHO. Yeah, a teenage stoic James Bond. How exhilarating.
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What the fuck?

Come now France think about it.
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Just to be certain, we do not know a great deal of things about their relationship, or so I assume. I do not think it would be terribly effective to consider our conjecture truth without additional insight.


Edit: I do feel a bit obligated to say this after watching Renai Bounkun Episode 2 and thought "Hmmm, having a student as a future imouto would be pretty sexy". I do ship those two (The student and teacher in Renai Bounkun), I admit.
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Just to be certain, we do not know a great deal of things about their relationship, or so I assume. I do not think it would be terribly effective to consider our conjecture truth without additional insight.


Edit: I do feel a bit obligated to say this after watching Renai Bounkun Episode 2 and thought "Hmmm, having a student as a future imouto would be pretty sexy". I do ship those two (The student and teacher in Renai Bounkun), I admit.


Though this would be the equivalent of sleeping with your buddies mom who is married... And now your that buddies dad.
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Wow.... What are the latest polls like?
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Wow.... What are the latest polls like?


She's gaining on him but she's still like 20 points behind. Hopefully their polls are as reliable as the one's proclaiming assured victory Hillary-sama.
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Wow.... What are the latest polls like?


Idk. I've stopped looking at them. The polls have been consistently wrong lately. Some machine that predicted both Brexit and Trump is predicting Le Pen based on the energy behind the candidates. I'm just waiting till Monday as I can't do anything anyways.
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Just to be certain, we do not know a great deal of things about their relationship, or so I assume. I do not think it would be terribly effective to consider our conjecture truth without additional insight.


Edit: I do feel a bit obligated to say this after watching Renai Bounkun Episode 2 and thought "Hmmm, having a student as a future imouto would be pretty sexy". I do ship those two (The student and teacher in Renai Bounkun), I admit.


Though this would be the equivalent of sleeping with your buddies mom who is married... And now your that buddies dad.


I cannot really care too much about age, although I do think that the teacher student thing should happen after school, with a certain age minimum, which I am more flexible about. I mean, a great deal of accusations at public schools has been their apparent role as "indoctrination" facilities, but on the microscopic level of that concerning an individual student and an individual teacher, it seems horribly imbalanced because students are learning, and they there to learn from these people, who should be notably clear of noticeable bias, and once you introduce sexual contact in the equation, it undermines the ideal teacher student dynamic as a whole. It is not potentially harmful just due to age, but mostly because this in situations like these, they started as students, and could potentially be molded in ways that would be tantamount to the Pamela Smart case. For a politician like Macron, this can be extremely concerning, I suppose.

But I do not know if this is the case. I do not believe anyone of us knows the nature of their relationship. I cringe whenever I see someone obsessed over a celebrity and theorized about things that are both trivial to us but personal to them. If a reporters want to ask this, I believe it would be fine, but I see no issue in raising a ruckus when the problem can be said to may not even exist as we know it.

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Rujikin wrote:

They were officially a couple only after he turned 17.





PeripheralVisionary wrote:

Well, let us be honest, pedophile has become slang for anyone fucking another who is under 18. The medical consensus defines it as being attracted to typical children prepubescent, while most 15 year old clearly developed some traits characteristic of a grown man. The law appears to be against sexual intercourse anyway, which they may or may not have done. It is also possible that Macron is enamored with her philosophy and has aligned himself solely due to her influence; I cannot say for sure, I do not know. None of us do. I just think if there is anything disturbing about this, it is cross between fucking your mentor and being her protege.

I think it is a bit young and creepy judged by what is possible, but a great deal of my legal concern is about the work ethic at schools, if anything else. I am not too sure if applying statutory rape here, if it did happen. I do think teachers and students are a special case, similar to a boss and his subordinates. One should be out of school; sexual activity and such by a teacher there will greatly interfere with that dynamic.


This. I've edited the misleading title. Also, while they may have met when he was 15 we don't really know when the relationship developed into the "couple" relationship that was "official" after he was 17.

Sure, some relationships between teachers and their teenage students may not be the greatest idea, or even age gaps of that much when one person is a teen, regardless of whether they have a teacher/student relationship. But I don't think they are necessarily the sick or depraved or otherwise unsavory thing that folks imply when they slap the demonizing "pedophile" word on adults in such situations.

Since Macron and his wife are still together this many years later and nothing in the summary in the opening post suggests there's been any particular trauma, I don't even know why this little tale of how they met is worth bringing up.
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