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Yup, they put poison in our food and water to mess us up. GMO food modifies your DNA and messes you up, too.



GMO food messes up your dna no less then normal food.
Do you even know how GMO's work?


This is the reason the organic foods industry exists, because studies indicate that GMO's have an effect on humans, even though it was the food, and not the humans that was dosed with GMO.

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/04/08/10-scientific-studies-proving-gmos-can-be-harmful-to-human-health/


2. DNA From Genetically Modified Crops Can Be Transferred Into Humans Who Eat Them

In a new study published in the peer reviewed Public Library of Science (PLOS), researchersemphasize that there is sufficient evidence that meal-derived DNA fragments carry complete genes that can enter into the human circulation system through an unknown mechanism.(2)

In one of the blood samples the relative concentration of plant DNA is higher than the human DNA. The study was based on the analysis of over 1000 human samples from four independent studies. PLOS is an open access, well respected peer-reviewed scientific journal that covers primary research from disciplines within science and medicine. It’s great to see this study published in it, confirming what many have been suspected for years.


“Our bloodstream is considered to be an environment well separated from the outside world and the digestive tract. According to the standard paradigm large macromolecules consumed with food cannot pass directly to the circulatory system. During digestion proteins and DNA are thought to be degraded into small constituents, amino acids and nucleic acids, respectively, and then absorbed by a complex active process and distributed to various parts of the body through the circulation system. Here, based on the analysis of over 1000 human samples from four independent studies, we report evidence that meal-derived DNA fragments which are large enough to carry complete genes can avoid degradation and through an unknown mechanism enter the human circulation system. In one of the blood samples the relative concentration of plant DNA is higher than the human DNA. The plant DNA concentration shows a surprisingly precise log-normal distribution in the plasma samples while non-plasma (cord blood) control sample was found to be free of plant DNA.” (2)


This still doesn’t mean that GMOs can enter into our cells, but given the fact GMOs have been linked to cancer (later in this article) it is safe to assume it is indeed a possibility. The bottom line is that we don’t know, and this study demonstrates another cause for concern.


The mere fact that GMO DNA is entering the blood stream - undigested, when non-GMO DNA is significantly degraded before entering the blood stream is quite significant. AND they don't know how this is happening. That is a major problem.
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DeadlyOats wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


MasterBismuth33 wrote:

Yup, they put poison in our food and water to mess us up. GMO food modifies your DNA and messes you up, too.



GMO food messes up your dna no less then normal food.
Do you even know how GMO's work?


This is the reason the organic foods industry exists, because studies indicate that GMO's have an effect on humans, even though it was the food, and not the humans that was dosed with GMO.

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/04/08/10-scientific-studies-proving-gmos-can-be-harmful-to-human-health/


2. DNA From Genetically Modified Crops Can Be Transferred Into Humans Who Eat Them

In a new study published in the peer reviewed Public Library of Science (PLOS), researchersemphasize that there is sufficient evidence that meal-derived DNA fragments carry complete genes that can enter into the human circulation system through an unknown mechanism.(2)

In one of the blood samples the relative concentration of plant DNA is higher than the human DNA. The study was based on the analysis of over 1000 human samples from four independent studies. PLOS is an open access, well respected peer-reviewed scientific journal that covers primary research from disciplines within science and medicine. It’s great to see this study published in it, confirming what many have been suspected for years.


“Our bloodstream is considered to be an environment well separated from the outside world and the digestive tract. According to the standard paradigm large macromolecules consumed with food cannot pass directly to the circulatory system. During digestion proteins and DNA are thought to be degraded into small constituents, amino acids and nucleic acids, respectively, and then absorbed by a complex active process and distributed to various parts of the body through the circulation system. Here, based on the analysis of over 1000 human samples from four independent studies, we report evidence that meal-derived DNA fragments which are large enough to carry complete genes can avoid degradation and through an unknown mechanism enter the human circulation system. In one of the blood samples the relative concentration of plant DNA is higher than the human DNA. The plant DNA concentration shows a surprisingly precise log-normal distribution in the plasma samples while non-plasma (cord blood) control sample was found to be free of plant DNA.” (2)


This still doesn’t mean that GMOs can enter into our cells, but given the fact GMOs have been linked to cancer (later in this article) it is safe to assume it is indeed a possibility. The bottom line is that we don’t know, and this study demonstrates another cause for concern.


The mere fact that GMO DNA is entering the blood stream - undigested, when non-GMO DNA is significantly degraded before entering the blood stream is quite significant. AND they don't know how this is happening. That is a major problem.



organic food industries exist because people are Scared for no reason.
GMO's can be harmful to human health yes "CAN" but in most cases are not.

Organic food is just not sustainable and will never be the majority market plus GMO food can be alot healthier.

Still no reason for alarm and we should continue using GMO's we need to if we want to sustain life anyhow.
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yeah, read the description of the video.

that shit is a bunch of pseudoscience and has next to no credibility. those are the guys who are more likely to get you killed than to heal you.


I don't think you even watched the video... She does seem a bit animated when she talks, but she wasn't saying anything about healing foods. She was talking about an industry consortium that is pushing their agenda to make their standards into law, and that their standards which permit harmful, or potentially harmful GMOs, chemicals, and other products to be in our food, to be legal for human consumption while at the same time, over time take away our choices of foods that don't have these things in them.

I've seen evidence of this with our own government making a big push to consumers to buy foods that are products containing or made with GMOs. Government dismisses any nutritional benefits of eating organic foods, and actively pushes GMOs.

I don't know if our government will go as far as she states, and actually make natural foods illegal, but I do see the government pushing to legitimize GMOs to the point of making it difficult or impossible for consumers to ultimately know what they are eating.
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DeadlyOats wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


MasterBismuth33 wrote:

Yup, they put poison in our food and water to mess us up. GMO food modifies your DNA and messes you up, too.



GMO food messes up your dna no less then normal food.
Do you even know how GMO's work?


This is the reason the organic foods industry exists, because studies indicate that GMO's have an effect on humans, even though it was the food, and not the humans that was dosed with GMO.

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2014/04/08/10-scientific-studies-proving-gmos-can-be-harmful-to-human-health/


2. DNA From Genetically Modified Crops Can Be Transferred Into Humans Who Eat Them

In a new study published in the peer reviewed Public Library of Science (PLOS), researchersemphasize that there is sufficient evidence that meal-derived DNA fragments carry complete genes that can enter into the human circulation system through an unknown mechanism.(2)

In one of the blood samples the relative concentration of plant DNA is higher than the human DNA. The study was based on the analysis of over 1000 human samples from four independent studies. PLOS is an open access, well respected peer-reviewed scientific journal that covers primary research from disciplines within science and medicine. It’s great to see this study published in it, confirming what many have been suspected for years.


“Our bloodstream is considered to be an environment well separated from the outside world and the digestive tract. According to the standard paradigm large macromolecules consumed with food cannot pass directly to the circulatory system. During digestion proteins and DNA are thought to be degraded into small constituents, amino acids and nucleic acids, respectively, and then absorbed by a complex active process and distributed to various parts of the body through the circulation system. Here, based on the analysis of over 1000 human samples from four independent studies, we report evidence that meal-derived DNA fragments which are large enough to carry complete genes can avoid degradation and through an unknown mechanism enter the human circulation system. In one of the blood samples the relative concentration of plant DNA is higher than the human DNA. The plant DNA concentration shows a surprisingly precise log-normal distribution in the plasma samples while non-plasma (cord blood) control sample was found to be free of plant DNA.” (2)


This still doesn’t mean that GMOs can enter into our cells, but given the fact GMOs have been linked to cancer (later in this article) it is safe to assume it is indeed a possibility. The bottom line is that we don’t know, and this study demonstrates another cause for concern.


The mere fact that GMO DNA is entering the blood stream - undigested, when non-GMO DNA is significantly degraded before entering the blood stream is quite significant. AND they don't know how this is happening. That is a major problem.


Wait. We're becoming plant/animal hybrids? Awesome.
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Ryulightorb wrote:

organic food industries exist because people are Scared for no reason.
GMO's can be harmful to human health yes "CAN" but in most cases are not.

Organic food is just not sustainable and will never be the majority market plus GMO food can be alot healthier.

Still no reason for alarm and we should continue using GMO's we need to if we want to sustain life anyhow.


I can't agree with you. We all grew up being told to eat healthy because we are what we eat. We don't want to eat GMO's or other chemicals found in our food because... we are what we eat....

There is HUGE money put in pushing the "benefits" of big agra's GMO's. Big Agra has lobbyists that get government to see things their way. Organic Food industry can barely get a word in edgewise, and individual people don't have the ear of government the way Big Agra does.

So, I tend to think that government studies are tilted towards the ones that throw the most money at the politicians...
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Wait. We're becoming plant/animal hybrids? Awesome.


The study shows that the GMO DNA is being found in our blood stream without having been digested. It does not say that the DNA is entering our cells. There needs to be more studies to learn if that is happening, is what the study says.
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I can't agree with you. We all grew up being told to eat healthy because we are what we eat. We don't want to eat GMO's or other chemicals found in our food because... we are what we eat....

There is HUGE money put in pushing the "benefits" of big agra's GMO's. Big Agra has lobbyists that get government to see things their way. Organic Food industry can barely get a word in edgewise, and individual people don't have the ear of government the way Big Agra does.

So, I tend to think that government studies are tilted towards the ones that throw the most money at the politicians...



You can't agree with me but science can and that's all that matters to me.
We are what we eat yes but gmo's don't mean chemicals...if you know how GMO's even work.

It's not all about money even if you would like to believe it is.
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Grows my own vegetables shops for organic.. and yes GMOs are dangerous some cause cancer over a period of time.
avoid cereal it pumped with bad things.
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GMOs can be harmful, but they may not be, from what I can tell. Other than that, the conspiracy that the Government Elites are trying to turn the population to be more malleable by spoon feeding us GMOs to make us more stupid does not appear to have a great deal of evidence, other then the presence of GMOs that may be capable of this on a larger scale.

OT: Ibris I believe mainly eat fish, while humans are omnivorous. They may also be more susceptible per gram, but I am not sure.


looking at the rise in riots the past 3 years id say there is evidence
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

GMOs can be harmful, but they may not be, from what I can tell. Other than that, the conspiracy that the Government Elites are trying to turn the population to be more malleable by spoon feeding us GMOs to make us more stupid does not appear to have a great deal of evidence, other then the presence of GMOs that may be capable of this on a larger scale.

OT: Ibris I believe mainly eat fish, while humans are omnivorous. They may also be more susceptible per gram, but I am not sure.


looking at the rise in riots the past 3 years id say there is evidence


Stupidity? Perhaps, but I doubt people as a whole are becoming more malleable to the interest of the elite when they engage in rioting due to GMOs.
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Oh dear they've spread.

I could explain how 207 scientific societies and national agencies have endorsed GMO and the countless studies that prove it is safe, how the genetic modification of GMO food is done in a wide variety of ways apart from "pumping them full of chemicals", how "it has toxins in it" is hilarious as oxygen (yes the element) is toxic as is pretty much EVERYTHING in appropriate quantities, I could also explain the psychological appeal of conspiracy theories and why so many people believe them and generally go back and forth on this till global warming kills us all but I'm not going to as it is a massive waste of my time and effort.

Now if this turns into anti-vaxxer land as well then I'm going to pretend this thread never existed.
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PeripheralVisionary wrote:

GMOs can be harmful, but they may not be, from what I can tell. Other than that, the conspiracy that the Government Elites are trying to turn the population to be more malleable by spoon feeding us GMOs to make us more stupid does not appear to have a great deal of evidence, other then the presence of GMOs that may be capable of this on a larger scale.

OT: Ibris I believe mainly eat fish, while humans are omnivorous. They may also be more susceptible per gram, but I am not sure.


looking at the rise in riots the past 3 years id say there is evidence


What... there's literally no evidence whatsoever that GMO consumption leads to more riots, none. You literally just made this up out of thin air. A rise in riots (if that's even true, and not just your anecdotal experience) can be caused by a trillion different things. This is just fear mongering.
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Oh dear they've spread.

I could explain how 207 scientific societies and national agencies have endorsed GMO and the countless studies that prove it is safe, how the genetic modification of GMO food is done in a wide variety of ways apart from "pumping them full of chemicals", how "it has toxins in it" is hilarious as oxygen (yes the element) is toxic as is pretty much EVERYTHING in appropriate quantities, I could also explain the psychological appeal of conspiracy theories and why so many people believe them and generally go back and forth on this till global warming kills us all but I'm not going to as it is a massive waste of my time and effort.

Now if this turns into anti-vaxxer land as well then I'm going to pretend this thread never existed.


You can't reason with some people ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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MasterBismuth33 wrote:


Ryulightorb wrote:


MasterBismuth33 wrote:

Yup, they put poison in our food and water to mess us up. GMO food modifies your DNA and messes you up, too.



GMO food messes up your dna no less then normal food.
Do you even know how GMO's work?


No, I do know and you don't. Do some research before you make yourself look stupid. Look what the government elites do to our food and water and environment to kill us slowly and to makes us dumb.


Anyone who makes a accusation likes this but refuses to provide evidence and instead says "Look it up." has zero credibility.
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The study shows that the GMO DNA is being found in our blood stream without having been digested. It does not say that the DNA is entering our cells. There needs to be more studies to learn if that is happening, is what the study says.


Okay, but why does it matter? Foreign DNA entering the bloodstream is far from unheard of (transfusions/transplants) and I am aware of nothing stating that this matters in any way. The headline may sound scary but in reality it is just a mildly interesting piece of information, not a vast condemnation of GMOs.
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