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I wish people would stop confusing Ecchi and Fan-service...
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Is it possible to detail the difference without sounding like a pedantic prick?
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the meaning of fan service is different now a day

back then it's about more episodes/ova/specials.. pretty much more contents for your favorite series by providing comedy/extra storylines etc..

now ? i don't blame people for thinking they are the same..

depend on which series you are watching now a day... fan service is pretty much fap service
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I just wish people would stop being so uptight over any of it. Recently I saw a review video on youtube of the game "Senran Kagura". The reviewer, who seemed to like the game, nevertheless spent a huge amount of time apologizing to the viewers for the game's apparent "fan service". He was like; "This game has tons of fan service, but uhh, I promise I don't care about any of that. It's a fun game really it is. You can skip over the sexy parts so it's ok for you to play this game... etc etc" Sheesh, just get over it I say. It is not as if the end of the world is coming up the road or anything. If a person is not OK with depictions of male and female forms that are not west-washed then surely they can just ignore them without feeling if they have to awkwardly denounce them for whatever reason. Let sleeping dogs lie and bouncing boobs bounce.
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you started a thread with the title "I wish people would stop confusing Ecchi and Fan-service... "

and then asking others to "detail the difference" ?

you can't tell the difference either or something ?

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AnimeAddictANN69 wrote:

the meaning of fan service is different now a day

back then it's about more episodes/ova/specials.. pretty much more contents for your favorite series by providing comedy/extra storylines etc..

now ? i don't blame people for thinking they are the same..

depend on which series you are watching now a day... fan service is pretty much fap service


lol wut? there has been fan service for a long time now, not sure the whole "back in my day" thing applies, and if it does it has no relevance to this topic at all.
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Does it matter.
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dulun18 wrote:

you started a thread with the title "I wish people would stop confusing Ecchi and Fan-service... "

and then asking others to "detail the difference" ?

you can't tell the difference either or something ?



No, I asked if it's possible to detail (i.E. Explain ) the difference between the two without making myself look like a pedantic prick. Because I do know the difference and would like to get some other people to understand it.
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It's not even hard to explain. ecchi is a genre and fan-service isn't. you can have fan-service in anything
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Toasterkat wrote:


dulun18 wrote:

you started a thread with the title "I wish people would stop confusing Ecchi and Fan-service... "

and then asking others to "detail the difference" ?

you can't tell the difference either or something ?



No, I asked if it's possible to detail (i.E. Explain ) the difference between the two without making myself look like a pedantic prick. Because I do know the difference and would like to get some other people to understand it.



you made a statement without explaining your view to back up that statement.. so how to you get other people to understand it ?

so what is the difference between ecchi and fan service to you then ?



TheAngryLittleAlchemist wrote:


AnimeAddictANN69 wrote:

the meaning of fan service is different now a day

back then it's about more episodes/ova/specials.. pretty much more contents for your favorite series by providing comedy/extra storylines etc..

now ? i don't blame people for thinking they are the same..

depend on which series you are watching now a day... fan service is pretty much fap service


lol wut? there has been fan service for a long time now, not sure the whole "back in my day" thing applies, and if it does it has no relevance to this topic at all.



fap service is good way to put it
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HateKillingCamels wrote:

Does it matter.


Good question.

I feel like giving other people the wrong idea about a series is not good.

For instance: Highschool DxD is NOT fan-servicey. It's blatantly Ecchi. Calling it fan-service could make someone think it's less sexualized than it is.

But maybe I'm the only one who cares.
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Toasterkat wrote:

Good question.

I feel like giving other people the wrong idea about a series is not good.

For instance: Highschool DxD is NOT fan-servicey. It's blatantly Ecchi. Calling it fan-service could make someone think it's less sexualized than it is.

But maybe I'm the only one who cares.


Oh right, I thought you were on the other side of the argument.
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Toasterkat wrote:

Is it possible to detail the difference without sounding like a pedantic prick?


Fanservice doesn't serve the story or the character. Thus, FAN service. We showed you these panties because fans would like to see them, not because it was necessary so we could tell the story. We gave this character huge breasts because fans prefer them, not because it's important to her character.

Consider Ryoka in Occultic Nine. There is absolutely no plot justification for her to have breasts bigger than her head, and they do not significantly impact her personality or her relationships. She just has an enormous rack for no good reason.

But then compare Blair in Soul Eater. This character's entire purpose in the anime is to be so over-the-top sexual that she distracts Soul and annoys Maka, even though she's not even human. Her large breasts are directly relevant to the story, and because she's actually a cat who takes human form through magic, those large breasts... along with her insistent nudity... specifically identify that she is actively trying to be sexual. It's not an accident. She's doing it on purpose. So she ticks both boxes, "serves the story" and "important to the character."

Then we can turn to Sekirei, where you can't go thirty seconds without seeing panties. Later in the series, Tsukuyumi will acquire the nickname "Miss Pantyflash" and it will become a defining element of the character, but that doesn't explain why so many scenes in the early episodes needed this element.

But go to Chu-Bra, which is of all things a series about little girls' underwear, and there's not a single appearance of panties that doesn't have specific relevance to the story. Which still leaves the rather disturbing question of why I am watching a show about little girls' underwear in the first place, but at least it's not overtly creepy... like, idk, the availability of an Eromanga Sensei hug pillow so you can pretend you're sleeping with a ten year old girl. I can't think of a single explanation for that which isn't creepy.

The key is to draw a line and say "THOSE people are PERVERTS." That's what it's really about - a shared judgment of people we can all agree are bad and wrong.
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HateKillingCamels wrote:


Toasterkat wrote:

Good question.

I feel like giving other people the wrong idea about a series is not good.

For instance: Highschool DxD is NOT fan-servicey. It's blatantly Ecchi. Calling it fan-service could make someone think it's less sexualized than it is.

But maybe I'm the only one who cares.


Oh right, I thought you were on the other side of the argument.


What exactly is "the other side of the argument "?
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TheAngryLittleAlchemist wrote:

It's not even hard to explain. ecchi is a genre and fan-service isn't. you can have fan-service in anything


Well said.
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Isn't all about the same thing? bouncing jugs?

I really don't care if it doesn't get in the way of the story.
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