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I wish people would stop confusing Ecchi and Fan-service...
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Anytime you put something in that you believe your fans want, it's fanservice. This includes everything from references to other works, cameos, someone finally punching the prick of the series that really needed to be punched, etc. That is all fanservice. If your fanbase wants nudity where it normally would not be or where it adds nothing to the story (think brief shower scenes that provide nothing but showing a character in the shower), that is fanservice. Sexual content or nudity can be a natural part of a series without it being considered fanservice.

Ecchi on the other hand is a genre where sex/nudity and other sexually implicit and explicit content is one of if not the main focus. Take the recently added High School DxD. The MC going out of his way to see/touch every girl rack, or showing a fight scene where every girl is nude is not really fanservice. It's a matter of course in an ecchi. Even shows like this have fanservice. Every commercial break spread is fanservice. Having a character be involved for a long time and finally showing them naked when viewers would be screaming for it could also be considered fanservice.

To sum up (TLDR), placing something in solely because the fans would want it, not because it adds anything, is Fanservice. Ecchi on the other hand is a genre where sexually implicit and explicit content is a focus.

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Posted 5/7/17 , edited 5/8/17
'Ecchi' just means 'sexy' or 'pervy'. It doesn't have to be it's own stand-alone genre.

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Posted 5/7/17 , edited 5/8/17

YayForKittens wrote:

'Ecchi' just means 'sexy' or 'pervy'. It doesn't have to be it's own stand-alone genre.



Actually "ecchi" is the romanji for the adopted pronunciation of "H", taken from Hentai which means "perverse".


While you are partially correct, in Japan both Hentai Anime and Ecchi Anime are distinct genres.
But still, ecchi elements CAN be present in anything.
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AnimeAddictANN69 wrote:

the meaning of fan service is different now a day

back then it's about more episodes/ova/specials.. pretty much more contents for your favorite series by providing comedy/extra storylines etc..

now ? i don't blame people for thinking they are the same..

depend on which series you are watching now a day... fan service is pretty much fap service

I don't think that's totally right, either.
In many Neon Genesis Evangelion previews Misato used to promise the next episode would have plenty of "service, service!", though as I recall it was never very good and that was in 1995.
Heck, boob jiggling is sometimes called "Gainaxing," after Gainax gained a reputation for doing it in 1989.


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Toasterkat wrote:

Actually "ecchi" is the romanji for the adopted pronunciation of "H", taken from Hentai which means "perverse".


It's also a pun: ecchi is only a little perverse.

You know. Just the tip.

And language evolution like that is why I love the Japanese.
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What we typically call "hentai" in the West is actually called "H" or sometimes "ecchi" in Japan.
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anfex wrote:

Isn't all about the same thing? bouncing jugs?

I really don't care if it doesn't get in the way of the story.


whatcha sayin, bouncing jugs always get in the way
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Sogno- wrote:


anfex wrote:

Isn't all about the same thing? bouncing jugs?

I really don't care if it doesn't get in the way of the story.


whatcha sayin, bouncing jugs always get in the way


Sorry, is that a question?

If it is then no, what I tried to say was that I don't care if there are scenes with bouncing jugs as long as these scenes don't distract you from the story.

I know that in English we don't use Double Negative like in other languages. Also, I think that I should had used the conjunction "as long as" to make it more clear, right?.
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anfex wrote:


Sogno- wrote:


anfex wrote:

Isn't all about the same thing? bouncing jugs?

I really don't care if it doesn't get in the way of the story.


whatcha sayin, bouncing jugs always get in the way


Sorry, is that a question?

If it is then no, what I tried to say was that I don't care if there are scenes with bouncing jugs as long as these scenes don't distract you from the story.

I know that in English we don't use Double Negative like in other languages. Also, I think that I should had used the conjunction "as long as" to make it more clear, right?.


all im sayin is big boobs always get in the way in real life too
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Fan service is material in a work of fiction or in a fictional series which is intentionally added to please the audience.


Fan service can encompass a ton of things including ecchi, but the two are not one and the same. For example, adding a ton of references, eye catches, catch phrases from a previous works that fans might appreciate can be considered fan service.

The whole notion of a series like Gundam Build Fighters can be considered fan service in a sense.
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Sogno- wrote:



all im sayin is big boobs always get in the way in real life too


I know that it can be sometimes really hard to say no to boobs, even impossible, because they are so tempting with their round shape, color and smooth skin, but you should be strong, you are better than them, you should not let them control you but instead, you should be the one who controls them.

I suggest you that you visit a Boobaholic Anonymous group in your city. This is what I did years ago, and since then, my life have changed for better.

Remember, the first step is Acceptance.


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5085trunks wrote:

Fan service is material in a work of fiction or in a fictional series which is intentionally added to please the audience.


Fan service can encompass a ton of things including ecchi, but the two are not one and the same. For example, adding a ton of references, eye catches, catch phrases from a previous works that fans might appreciate can be considered fan service.

The whole notion of a series like Gundam Build Fighters can be considered fan service in a sense.


That Gundam Build Fighters ref is WIN!

But seriously, what I would like to see is people correctly labeling an Ecchi series as what it is. Rather than calling it fan-service.
Because I understand that not everyone is ok with sexualized Anime. Just calling something fan-service is way too vague.

So, the question remains: how to educate the masses?
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Toasterkat wrote:


5085trunks wrote:

Fan service is material in a work of fiction or in a fictional series which is intentionally added to please the audience.


Fan service can encompass a ton of things including ecchi, but the two are not one and the same. For example, adding a ton of references, eye catches, catch phrases from a previous works that fans might appreciate can be considered fan service.

The whole notion of a series like Gundam Build Fighters can be considered fan service in a sense.


That Gundam Build Fighters ref is WIN!

But seriously, what I would like to see is people correctly labeling an Ecchi series as what it is. Rather than calling it fan-service.
Because I understand that not everyone is ok with sexualized Anime. Just calling something fan-service is way too vague.

So, the question remains: how to educate the masses?




Would it be educating the masses or reprogramming the masses? Alot of anime sites generally just shove all ecchi anime into a category called fan service and not give it a second thought while anime that could be considered fan service (Hellsing Ultimate comes to mind with the over the top blood and gore) is placed in the action category usually.
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thorlox wrote:


Toasterkat wrote:


5085trunks wrote:

Fan service is material in a work of fiction or in a fictional series which is intentionally added to please the audience.


Fan service can encompass a ton of things including ecchi, but the two are not one and the same. For example, adding a ton of references, eye catches, catch phrases from a previous works that fans might appreciate can be considered fan service.

The whole notion of a series like Gundam Build Fighters can be considered fan service in a sense.


That Gundam Build Fighters ref is WIN!

But seriously, what I would like to see is people correctly labeling an Ecchi series as what it is. Rather than calling it fan-service.
Because I understand that not everyone is ok with sexualized Anime. Just calling something fan-service is way too vague.

So, the question remains: how to educate the masses?




Would it be educating the masses or reprogramming the masses? Alot of anime sites generally just shove all ecchi anime into a category called fan service and not give it a second thought while anime that could be considered fan service (Hellsing Ultimate comes to mind with the over the top blood and gore) is placed in the action category usually.


By that it sounds like reprogramming is the way to go.

I'm only on CR and a site that doesn't do genre sorting, only alphabetical. I had no clue other sites did that....
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Have you actually seen anime these days? Now there isn't a difference. Fan-Service anime is almost Hentai now.
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