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I wish people would stop confusing Ecchi and Fan-service...
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Posted 5/8/17

Toasterkat wrote:


thorlox wrote:


Toasterkat wrote:


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Fan service is material in a work of fiction or in a fictional series which is intentionally added to please the audience.


Fan service can encompass a ton of things including ecchi, but the two are not one and the same. For example, adding a ton of references, eye catches, catch phrases from a previous works that fans might appreciate can be considered fan service.

The whole notion of a series like Gundam Build Fighters can be considered fan service in a sense.


That Gundam Build Fighters ref is WIN!

But seriously, what I would like to see is people correctly labeling an Ecchi series as what it is. Rather than calling it fan-service.
Because I understand that not everyone is ok with sexualized Anime. Just calling something fan-service is way too vague.

So, the question remains: how to educate the masses?




Would it be educating the masses or reprogramming the masses? Alot of anime sites generally just shove all ecchi anime into a category called fan service and not give it a second thought while anime that could be considered fan service (Hellsing Ultimate comes to mind with the over the top blood and gore) is placed in the action category usually.


By that it sounds like reprogramming is the way to go.

I'm only on CR and a site that doesn't do genre sorting, only alphabetical. I had no clue other sites did that....


Posted 5/8/17
In my opinion, fan service is moments or extras to provide entertainment aside from the story and ecchi is something that's entire purpose is to provide sexual entertainment.
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Posted 5/8/17

lucythefangirl5689 wrote:

In my opinion, fan service is moments or extras to provide entertainment aside from the story and ecchi is something that's entire purpose is to provide sexual entertainment.



And you are correct on both counts.

Do you think it's possible to educate the people who don't understand that there's a difference?
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lalmonte04 wrote:

There is a difference, but no one really cares. Why should you?


Good question.

Because not caring about things is what's ruining my country.
And I don't want CR to end up like 4chan/b/.


Sorry to hear that. Sounds like you have problems like the rest of us, want to join the line?
Posted 5/8/17

Toasterkat wrote:


lucythefangirl5689 wrote:

In my opinion, fan service is moments or extras to provide entertainment aside from the story and ecchi is something that's entire purpose is to provide sexual entertainment.



And you are correct on both counts.

Do you think it's possible to educate the people who don't understand that there's a difference?


If people take the time to discover both sorts or have a genuine interest in anime and manga then I think they might learn eventually. If people stay uneducated or refuse to learn then I just ignore it and know what is correct in my mind.
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Posted 5/8/17

lalmonte04 wrote:


Toasterkat wrote:


lalmonte04 wrote:

There is a difference, but no one really cares. Why should you?


Good question.

Because not caring about things is what's ruining my country.
And I don't want CR to end up like 4chan/b/.


Sorry to hear that. Sounds like you have problems like the rest of us, want to join the line?


Nah. I'm gonna reach out and try to reshape whatever I can with the help of whoever will join me.

Thanks though!
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Posted 5/8/17

Toasterkat wrote:


lalmonte04 wrote:


Toasterkat wrote:


lalmonte04 wrote:

There is a difference, but no one really cares. Why should you?


Good question.

Because not caring about things is what's ruining my country.
And I don't want CR to end up like 4chan/b/.


Sorry to hear that. Sounds like you have problems like the rest of us, want to join the line?


Nah. I'm gonna reach out and try to reshape whatever I can with the help of whoever will join me.

Thanks though!


Suit yourself.

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Posted 5/10/17
it show everything of the human anatomy is all the same.
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Posted 5/11/17 , edited 5/11/17

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the meaning of fan service is different now a day

back then it's about more episodes/ova/specials.. pretty much more contents for your favorite series by providing comedy/extra storylines etc..

now ? i don't blame people for thinking they are the same..

depend on which series you are watching now a day... fan service is pretty much fap service


lol wut? there has been fan service for a long time now, not sure the whole "back in my day" thing applies, and if it does it has no relevance to this topic at all.



fap service is good way to put it


i think this is the 3-4 threads about this topic since i registered with CR

it's not easy to find my previous posts in this forums.. since it will be quicker if i can just copy and paste

as i stated.. for some series fan service = fap service

i guess this is like that time when i triggered one of the guys from ANN.. when i called the movie he mentioned as porn

i saw the movie he mentioned myself and it's pretty much porn but the guy insisted that it's not

after being triggered he called the mods on me.. his babysitters came and deleted my post

if you have a video where the actors/characters are having sex for 80% of the length of the video.. if it's not porn i don't know what is

so i'm sure i'll triggered quite a few people with this post.. but eh.. I'm not their babysitters so i could care less about sugar coating it.


anyway.. as i stated in my previous post which you quoted

fan service has changed over the years.. now a day for some series fan service = fap service


please allow me to provide the reasons why for the above statement

1st- let's go over the meaning of fan service

there's no official definition for fan service .. but can we use wiki ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_service

Fan service (ファンサービス fan sābisu?), fanservice, or service cut (サービスカット sābisu katto?),[1][2] is material in a work of fiction or in a fictional series which is intentionally added to please the audience.

"intentionally added to please the audience"


it's pretty vague if you ask me


2- back then you often get more episodes/specials/ovas that provide comedy/story/character introductions. etc..

but now a day the goal is to provide fap service


it's a trend that you will see in a lot of series now a day.. even long running series like one piece -- I think one piece is a good example since the series had been around since 1995 ?.. so it's easy to see the changes


notice how the female crew members got the fap service make over ?


Nami was 17 when she joined the straw hats and Robin was 28..













if you like the gifs i included.. check out these series..

training, sleeping and bathtime with Hanako :)

https://myanimelist.net/anime/6392/Issho_ni_Training__Training_with_Hinako
https://myanimelist.net/anime/7897/Issho_ni_Sleeping__Sleeping_with_Hinako
https://myanimelist.net/anime/9744/Issho_ni_Training_Ofuro__Bathtime_with_Hinako___Hiyoko

there will be plenty of "pleasing" in these ovas


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Posted 5/11/17
Ecchi should seriously be outlawed.
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Posted 5/11/17


Fanservice - what people want to see the most

Ecchi: semi naked girls, anything sexual

My understanding is that the majority of otakus are boys and most boys want to see naked girls or semi naked girls. That's why fanservice can be the same as ecchi because it offers what most people want to see.
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Posted 5/11/17
Aren't both terms pretty useless at this point?
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Posted 5/11/17
i'm getting turned on
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Ecchi is like when the whole show is erotic, fan-service is when only a few time the show has some sneak peaks.
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