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Have anybody seen Dear white people
is great and very innovative show,
that see racist in more modern take.
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juanasilo wrote:

Have anybody seen Dear white people
is great and very innovative show,
that see racist in more modern take.


Nope Boycotting Netflix because of that.
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just give it i see.
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Martin Luther King Jr is probably rolling in his grave





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Good to see America respecting its history

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Honestly lots black people in the US feel way too entitled nowadays. Some are even more privileged than the white people they call privileged. Also I say LOTS not all, what I'm saying already is pretty bad but not trying to say ALL black people.


Except this isn't even remotely true. Part of the reason is because people like you that do not know what they are talking about, trying to spew incorrect garbage. Unless incredibly famous, rich Blacks are also discriminated against, which shows that even climbing the economic ladder is not enough to appease racist people. Sorry to say, but if you are in this thread saying things like the guy that posted this, then you are flat out being racist based on your idiotic beliefs or straight out ignorance.

I read the OP link and unfortunately, it gives no good amount of detail on the group that is hosting this. There is a difference between creating a ceremony based on bringing your race into it and excluding other races from participating in said ceremony. Because there is no information on this, I can not come to a conclusion on what they are doing and just so you all are aware, there are plenty of white groups that do and have done the same thing and many universities with the stature of Harvard (which tend to be liberal leaning) are not going to stand for it knowing systemic racism exist.

You all do come across as racist or just plain idiotic when you don't even try to understand what people mean when they say "racism". Anyone and everyone can be racist, but only a "ruling party" can actual commit institutional racism and that is where the harm of racism comes from. It isn't majority vs minority, it is those in power vs those that aren't. Examples being Iraq during Saddam and even Syria where the minority controlled government and discriminated against the majority.

Personally, I wouldn't give a care that some random Asian is racist other than the fact at keeping that racist in line and doesn't act on said racism to discriminate. I do, however, care when that random Asian is in power and a startlingly high percentage of them are racist. It means they can control discrimination and be the judge, jury, and executioner on those that commit racist crimes, which tends to mean they will back their own race (police in U.S anyone?) and let them go with light sentences or even entirely despite overwhelming evidence.

You all can keep trying to dismiss it, but U.S is still a very racist nation, it hasn't been that long ago since slavery or segregation, to act like it has disappeared is silly and to act like Whites are somehow disadvantaged now is incredibly stupid when they hold the majority of the power from local police to the highest offices. They blame job losses on immigrants (a very racist belief) when most of the job losses is easily attributed to technological advancement for example, people like this is very easy to manipulate with racially charged motivation for ignorant beliefs.

You all can carry on with your ignorance now though.


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If you are going to Harvard, you are likely a success story already. It makes the whole thing seem ridiculous when one has already had the means to pay for it in the first place, and various other circumstances that plague most of the black community but not them for the most part.


Just want to let you know that, that isn't how Harvard or even many of the Ivy League universities work. Many of the people who go there are not financially successful, they are academically successful and they are given even more attention when they manage to do so against all the odds and have a strong portfolio. That is because these colleges make most of their money from the government and Alumni donations.

Felt like I needed to tell you this, so you don't get the false idea that everyone going there (especially minorities) are financially well off and have not experienced the same amount issues those in poverty face.

That same guy just said that rich Blacks got to where they are by working on themselves while those that claim racism exist are on welfare. That ignores the high amount of rich and famous Blacks that have told the public about their fight with racism. Just because some is able to climb that mountain does not mean all could or should.

My last paragraph isn't directed at you so much.
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In my life experiences as a minority (not black), 99.99% of people don't really care about your race, but if they do it's just because they want to know you a little better.

Heck, the only times I ever experienced racism was from a black girl in middle school and a bully in middle school who I beat the crap out of anyways.

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You all can keep trying to dismiss it, but U.S is still a very racist nation, it hasn't been that long ago since slavery or segregation, to act like it has disappeared is silly and to act like Whites are somehow disadvantaged now is incredibly stupid when they hold the majority of the power from local police to the highest offices. They blame job losses on immigrants (a very racist belief) when most of the job losses is easily attributed to technological advancement for example, people like this is very easy to manipulate with racially charged motivation for ignorant beliefs.


You would have a point if, oh I don't know, every white person in government was part of a white people advancement party.

Even if white people hold a majority of power, so what? A majority of people in office are right-handed, but that doesn't mean that right handed people can't be disadvantaged in some way.

If anything, people nowdays perpetuate racism by constantly talking about race. People shouldn't be worrying about how their race gives them advantages or disadvantages. People shouldn't be worrying over stuff they don't have any control over.



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TarNaru33 wrote:

You all can keep trying to dismiss it, but U.S is still a very racist nation, it hasn't been that long ago since slavery or segregation, to act like it has disappeared is silly and to act like Whites are somehow disadvantaged now is incredibly stupid when they hold the majority of the power from local police to the highest offices. They blame job losses on immigrants (a very racist belief) when most of the job losses is easily attributed to technological advancement for example, people like this is very easy to manipulate with racially charged motivation for ignorant beliefs.


You would have a point if, oh I don't know, every white person in government was part of a white people advancement party.

Even if white people hold a majority of power, so what? A majority of people in office are right-handed, but that doesn't mean that right handed people can't be disadvantaged in some way.

If anything, people nowdays perpetuate racism by constantly talking about race. People shouldn't be worrying about how their race gives them advantages or disadvantages. People shouldn't be worrying over stuff they don't have any control over.






You really don't see how much discretion a ruling party can have on what they do? Even after I gave 2 examples of what a ruling part can do? Even though there are countless examples throughout history that shown what a racist ruling party have done? That isn't something you can argue against, that is a cold hard fact and is the literal definition of institutional racism. If you have racist people in power and those who aren't racist are unwilling to stop them, then it will fester and become an institutional issue. Again this isn't an opinion, that is how it works. You don't need everyone to be racist, you only need a substantial amount of them with the rest being apathetic towards the issue, luckily time usually kicks in and those more exposed to diverse beliefs and backgrounds than previously start to realize it and fix it. That is what happened to U.S, after a long hard fight and it isn't even over due to people passing down those tainted beliefs to their children while they isolate themselves "While flight" anybody?

I gave you reasons and examples as to why that matters when trying to understand institutional racism, for you to respond "so what?" while ignoring that reason and the example to me is you not even trying to discuss the matter, especially with your silly right-handed example. People that are literally in power from local government, to policing, to the justice system, to the highest spot in office are not disadvantaged in the slightest compared to a group that isn't. Now if you want to argue that poor whites are disadvantaged compare to well off ones, then you would be right because well off whites have more control in and over government than the poor whites, but institutionally poor white is not disadvantaged than a poor black. We are not talking about little pockets exceptionalism here, we are talking about the vast majority between these 2 races. Of course there is exceptions where some poor black somehow managed to defy the odds and is more advantaged than poor white who started off in "similar" conditions and I put that in quotes since their race since birth already put them at different levels of conditions.

You are again incorrect on your last point, if humanity wasn't flawed then you would have a point, but humanity has proven numerous time there is no such thing as being colorblind. To be colorblind knowing such a thing isn't possible, is to ignorant and it will not aide in stopping racism, because you can't stop racism by pretending it don't exist. All you can do is level the playing field by regulations, law, and funding while hoping education and greater diversity lowers racism even more.

Examples of that is from school children bullying others for even the slightest of differences from clothing, to skin color, to personalities, and to accents.

Again, U.S is a very racist nation, this is not something you can dispute. Minor research into (well respected) studies regarding U.S discrimination would yield many results. Heck... a campaigner for Donald Trump admitted they used racism to help win the election and took pride in using every available outlet to win. While I agree with the reasoning, being happy you are using such a negative part of U.S to win an election is where I would draw my line. That isn't something to be proud of, it is something to be ashamed of even if it reached your goal.

I will look for the source for that last part since I lost it awhile ago, but it was immediately after the 2016 election results when the RNC and DNC campaigns talk to one another.
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Have anybody seen Dear white people
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Modern take meaning white inferiorist take.
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They should never done this, because that show racism! I understand its just celebration, but you got to realize if they host just white, Asian and other races graduation, they'll yell Racism!

They should host it in secret not out in public!



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Good to see America respecting its history




I never understood that, its not like black people carry disease.. Now this is coming from someone who is afraid of germs.. I even wear gloves on everything, I don't even share drinks with anyone.. not even my own mother.. I even get sick if my mother making me hamburger.. I make my own with special kitchen gloves.

I don't even use public restroom.. Well only if it single, the one you can lock the door and be alone! lol I'll be wiping everything making sure there no germs! XD

Oh btw I'm white! XD

I mean just that in the photo I see nothing dirty from color water fountain, look fine to me! -shrugs-

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Ashmash12345 wrote:

Martin Luther King Jr is probably rolling in his grave


He has long since done this.

I at first thought that it was a joke at first but it's sadly real. I showed this to a few friends and they pretty much had the same reaction as I did. Also someone was over hearing our conversation and decided to call my friend's and I racists because we thought this was stupid. What a world we live in today.
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Cultural Organizations on college campuses already have these types of graduation ceremonies. It is up to the cultural org or the group of students to decide and for the campus to approve.

Many of you in this thread are saying things that could be considered misguided, especially the argument about 'if other races did this it would be racist'.

Celebrating non-normative racial excellence at a predominantly, upper-class, White Ivy League institution is important because there are not that many spaces for persons of color to celebrate academic achievement at that level.

This is bigger than White and Black. Why is it difficult to navigate through the idea that in spaces and communities where the presence of Minorities are EXTREMELY limited, community building is a small comfort.

Why do people go up in arms when minority communities decide to come together?

'But if it was White people celebrating everyone would be crying racism!'

Celebrate: to observe (a day) or commemorate (an event) with ceremonies or festivities.

Its HARVARD. The PINNACLE of academic achievement is an institution started by White Americans, attended mostly by Rich White Americans, and is an AMERICAN STANDARD of excellence.

Stop this "well these people have a space so why can't they" argument.

If you attend a Top College in the US, you are in a White person's space. GOD FORBID that some people that aren't White try to carve their own nook in it.

My question is: Why are you not celebrating that minorities are graduating from Harvard? You wanna 'move forward'? Appreciate that we've come far enough that a small group of minorities can actually meet and do something together without worry.
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