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that wasn't self pity, It was simply pointing something out
because it has been said a HELL of a lot these past 2 years about whites, and Christians,
that whites need to atone for slavery, that Christians and whites still oppress
that whites are racist simply for being born white
that Christians are bigoted just because we are Christian

nice try though


You aren't seriously comparing mean things said on twitter to people's lives legitimately being threatened are you?


people have been beat up, and killed this past year for being white???
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redokami wrote:


qwueri wrote:


redokami wrote:

that wasn't self pity, It was simply pointing something out
because it has been said a HELL of a lot these past 2 years about whites, and Christians,
that whites need to atone for slavery, that Christians and whites still oppress
that whites are racist simply for being born white
that Christians are bigoted just because we are Christian

nice try though


You aren't seriously comparing mean things said on twitter to people's lives legitimately being threatened are you?


people have been beat up, and killed this past year for being white???


You may want to keep in mind the number of Christians persecuted may differ between regions, and perhaps because ISIL is still an active threat bolstering said numbers incredibly. They are committing widespread genocide, after all.

That being said, there a great deal of people in the US alone, chances are you get hate crimes against Blacks, Whites, Asians, etc. However, I think it is important to analyze the trend of crimes against said demographics and how they compare nowadays to back then. I honestly would not be surprised if whites were beginning to be more prosecuted, but I do not know.

In any case, with the outrage against the autistic boy beaten on Facebook Live, I believe we are a far cry away from being a terrorist governing power that not only allows said things to happen, but actively contributes to them. One of the reasons why the US is a pretty great country.
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people have been beat up, and killed this past year for being white???


So mean things on twitter and a few people targeted with hate crimes that are prosecuted under the law. Such hell.
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qwueri wrote:


redokami wrote:

people have been beat up, and killed this past year for being white???


So mean things on twitter and a few people targeted with hate crimes that are prosecuted under the law. Such hell.


cant ignore that it happens
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cant ignore that it happens


And you're seriously comparing that to countries where kidnapping, rape, and death happen because of race, religion, sexuality, tribe, or girls going to school can happen because the government either enforces such actions, turns a blind eye to them happening, or is otherwise too weak to enforce it's own laws against an organize group?
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qwueri wrote:


redokami wrote:

cant ignore that it happens


And you're seriously comparing that to countries where kidnapping, rape, and death happen because of race, religion, sexuality, tribe, or girls going to school can happen because the government either enforces such actions, turns a blind eye to them happening, or is otherwise too weak to enforce it's own laws against an organize group?


im not comparing in myoriginial post, I was just saying this shit happens,
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Well at least you're not only accusing white Christians of violent acts.

I think alot of Christian extremists are just brain washed and had bad up bringings, same as Muslims. But i think they are more often than not lone wolves or insain. Compared to Muslims who sometimes are recruited and influenced in Islamic schools and mosques.
Hmm not sure, from stuff i watch Christian extremists are usually labled as white supremacists/nazis or something.


Extremists are extremists regardless of what book, creed or manifesto they use to justify themselves. No ideology is asshole proof. People will always find some way to twist things to fit their world view or justify their actions. Environment has more to do with it than belief. If you have situations like you do in the Middle East or Africa it doesn't matter what ideology or religion you drop in there. Someone is going to go off the deep end and kill in the name of it. Christianity isn't magically immune to it anymore than Islam is magically the cause of all of it.

A lot of it simply has to do with stability. Instability is going to produce unstable people. The US, like most western democracies, is a very stable country and has enjoyed stability for generations. Its not stuck in any sort of self perpetuating cycle of violence. North America in particular, being the "New World", is largely unshackled from the burden of history. It doesn't have a history of unsolved conflict stretching back centuries.

In that regard we're particularly fortunate over here. But for someone that lives in the middle of something like Syria, Palestine, Sudan, etc our constant overreaction over the slightest whiff of terrorism must seem completely absurd.
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im not comparing in myoriginial post, I was just saying this shit happens,


Oh, so that's why you replied with my question about mean things people say on twitter with a few people that might get targeted with hate crimes. Makes total sense out of the context of the preceding posts about western Christians conflating persecution of overseas Christians with what they face living in the US.
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qwueri wrote:


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im not comparing in myoriginial post, I was just saying this shit happens,


Oh, so that's why you replied with my question about mean things people say on twitter with a few people that might get targeted with hate crimes. Makes total sense out of the context of the preceding posts about western Christians conflating persecution of overseas Christians with what they face living in the US.


kindly stop putting words in my mouth, my original post wasn't directed at you, it was in response to tigers basically saying im playing the victim card
all I did was name things that happen, not comparing what happens here to what happens in other countries
edit: on a side note I wasn't just talking about crimes against Christians, but whites in general as well
double edit: actually the orginial original post was to the guy who said we shouldn't have to atone for our ancestors sins
^which that right there wasn't calling out anything in particular, but just in general
I said the rest of America doesn't think that way about WHITES and Christians though
then tigers came in

again no where was I comparing what happens here to what happens in other countries
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isis is a dark wizard group that has the strongest dark wizards in the world.Their most powerful and evil wizard went by osama bin laden(rumored to be stronger then he who must not be named).Here's a rare photo of him interacting with Harry Potter:

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kindly stop putting words in my mouth, my original post wasn't directed at you, it was in response to tigers basically saying im playing the victim card
all I did was name things that happen, not comparing what happens here to what happens in other countries
edit: on a side note I wasn't just talking about crimes against Christians, but whites in general as well
double edit: actually the orginial original post was to the guy who said we shouldn't have to atone for our ancestors sins
^which that right there wasn't calling out anything in particular, but just in general
I said the rest of America doesn't think that way about WHITES and Christians though
then tigers came in

again no where was I comparing what happens here to what happens in other countries


So naming mean things said on twitter and possible hate crimes was purely in response to how white Christians are/aren't turning threads like this into self-pitying victim-cards, and in no way relates back to the OP which referred to persecution of Christians overseas. Thanks for clearing that up.
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qwueri wrote:


redokami wrote:

kindly stop putting words in my mouth, my original post wasn't directed at you, it was in response to tigers basically saying im playing the victim card
all I did was name things that happen, not comparing what happens here to what happens in other countries
edit: on a side note I wasn't just talking about crimes against Christians, but whites in general as well
double edit: actually the orginial original post was to the guy who said we shouldn't have to atone for our ancestors sins
^which that right there wasn't calling out anything in particular, but just in general
I said the rest of America doesn't think that way about WHITES and Christians though
then tigers came in

again no where was I comparing what happens here to what happens in other countries


So naming mean things said on twitter and possible hate crimes was purely in response to how white Christians are/aren't turning threads like this into self-pitying victim-cards, and in no way relates back to the OP which referred to persecution of Christians overseas. Thanks for clearing that up.


You should ease back there Qwueri. There is making a point and going in for the kill. That being said, I agree such a comparison is ridiculous, and it would be easy to infer that a comparison is made when mentioning two things.
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qwueri wrote:


redokami wrote:

kindly stop putting words in my mouth, my original post wasn't directed at you, it was in response to tigers basically saying im playing the victim card
all I did was name things that happen, not comparing what happens here to what happens in other countries
edit: on a side note I wasn't just talking about crimes against Christians, but whites in general as well
double edit: actually the orginial original post was to the guy who said we shouldn't have to atone for our ancestors sins
^which that right there wasn't calling out anything in particular, but just in general
I said the rest of America doesn't think that way about WHITES and Christians though
then tigers came in

again no where was I comparing what happens here to what happens in other countries


So naming mean things said on twitter and possible hate crimes was purely in response to how white Christians are/aren't turning threads like this into self-pitying victim-cards, and in no way relates back to the OP which referred to persecution of Christians overseas. Thanks for clearing that up.


yes because the response was to something that was talkingbout atoning for our ancestors sins,
which is why I SEPERATED white, and Christian, the dude was from California and that's why I said the rest of America doesn't think that way
I even specifically stated whites atoning for slavery, and being called racist because we are born white, tell me how does that relate to what happens over seas? it doesn't, because I wasn't intending for it to


but believe what you want to, bye
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qwueri wrote:


redokami wrote:

kindly stop putting words in my mouth, my original post wasn't directed at you, it was in response to tigers basically saying im playing the victim card
all I did was name things that happen, not comparing what happens here to what happens in other countries
edit: on a side note I wasn't just talking about crimes against Christians, but whites in general as well
double edit: actually the orginial original post was to the guy who said we shouldn't have to atone for our ancestors sins
^which that right there wasn't calling out anything in particular, but just in general
I said the rest of America doesn't think that way about WHITES and Christians though
then tigers came in

again no where was I comparing what happens here to what happens in other countries


So naming mean things said on twitter and possible hate crimes was purely in response to how white Christians are/aren't turning threads like this into self-pitying victim-cards, and in no way relates back to the OP which referred to persecution of Christians overseas. Thanks for clearing that up.


You should ease back there Qwueri. There is making a point and going in for the kill. That being said, I agree such a comparison is ridiculous, and it would be easy to infer that a comparison is made when mentioning two things.


again, I wasn't comparing towhat happens in America to what happens anywhere else, kindly stop
edit: yes that kind of comparison is absurd, but again I didn't do that
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I would stay out of countries with a high population of "refugees" as they like to call themselves.

most of them seem to use the various wars as an excuse to leave but they actually have no problem with the politics of muslims they think these kind of politics should be the way of things everywhere.
if they thought they could create another muslim war in the next country they just ran to... they would do so without hesitation as allah demands

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