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Posted 5/15/17
Lil' Kim needs to chill out. That being said, I guess North Korea gets a little extra aggressive whenever South Korea elects a new leader. It's not exactly comforting that they keep testing missiles, but it seems like that's the only card they have to play and this really isn't anything new.
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Shipwright wrote:

Lil' Kim needs to chill out. That being said, I guess North Korea gets a little extra aggressive whenever South Korea elects a new leader. It's not exactly comforting that they keep testing missiles, but it seems like that's the only card they have to play and this really isn't anything new.


Ya know to be fair, I wonder what North Korea would be if the Yanks hadn't insisted on slapping them with their dicks back in the 50s. I mean Korea went from being a Japanese territory to being a pawn in the cold war between Russia and the US in less then a decade. That shit could not have been good for anyone's mindset.
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Posted 5/16/17

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Dig a fallout shelter?

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_KOREAS_TENSIONS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-05-13-21-38-39
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) -- North Korea on Sunday test-launched a ballistic missile that landed in the Sea of Japan, the South Korean, Japanese and U.S. militaries said.


A fallout shelter for what? Did north korea finally figure out which end to stand the rocket on?
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Posted 5/16/17
The angry chubby guy is still having temper tantrums, nothing new tbh.
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Jamming777 wrote:

Dig a fallout shelter?

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_KOREAS_TENSIONS?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-05-13-21-38-39
SEOUL, South Korea (AP) -- North Korea on Sunday test-launched a ballistic missile that landed in the Sea of Japan, the South Korean, Japanese and U.S. militaries said.


A fallout shelter for what? Did north korea finally figure out which end to stand the rocket on?


The last North Korean nuclear test was reported as a warhead in the 30kt range, whereas Nagasaki was hit by 21+-2kt range (killing 40 to 80 thousand). So it sucks to wait and dig as needed. Their last missile has a 2800km estimated max range.
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can't wait for them to test them over here

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Posted 5/17/17

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Jesus christ, calm your collective tits.
Have you seen the state of the north korean military?
They're fuckin starving.
There'll be a coup long before Kim tries to pull any shit.


Please now you're both underestimating and overestimating at the same time. Thought the overestimating right now is more in the foreground. Most Asians are subservient to a fault, just look at their history. All the bad crap in it was created by a bunch of under educated rice farmers and city dwellers following without question the orders of an incredibly small ruling elite.
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Posted 5/28/17
A new test May 28:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_KOREAS_TENSIONS_ASOL-?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-05-28-21-57-29
The suspected Scud-type missile launched from the coastal town of Wonsan flew about 450 kilometers.
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To sum up the situation simply;
North and South Korea are still at war. There is only a cease fire in effect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War

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Yonatan2 wrote:

To sum up the situation simply;
North and South Korea are still at war. There is only a cease fire in effect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War



Thank you finally some one with sense. Technically most things North Korea does to South Korea is legal. Up to and including the use of Nuclear Weapons since they withdrew from the NPT. Is it wise or moral, certainly not but I am tried of people acting like the North Korean nuclear program is some breech of international law.
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Yonatan2 wrote:

To sum up the situation simply;
North and South Korea are still at war. There is only a cease fire in effect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War



Thank you finally some one with sense. Technically most things North Korea does to South Korea is legal. Up to and including the use of Nuclear Weapons since they withdrew from the NPT. Is it wise or moral, certainly not but I am tried of people acting like the North Korean nuclear program is some breech of international law.


Au contraire United Nations Security Council sharpens sanctions on DPR Korea in wake of ballistic missile launch makes it a violation of international law and intentions for them to give up their nuclear program.
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the part that worries me is that NK has been testing under water launches of scud type missles.
right now they got one boomer, with one missle.
in the 90s, the soviets are rumored to have sold 10 golf class missle boats, 3 missles each. tho they had to be on the surface, and the missle lifted clear of the sail before launch.

the golf class used the same scud type missle.

what if the new sinpo class missle boat is a test bed to reft the 10 old golf class missle boat for underwater missle launch? suddenly NK has 16 missle at its disposal.
thats what i think anyways.
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Au contraire United Nations Security Council sharpens sanctions on DPR Korea in wake of ballistic missile launch makes it a violation of international law and intentions for them to give up their nuclear program.


North Korea is neither a signatory party of the NPT, nor a member nation of the U.N. Thus it is not bound by any of the rulings passed by either.
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Jamming777 wrote:


Au contraire United Nations Security Council sharpens sanctions on DPR Korea in wake of ballistic missile launch makes it a violation of international law and intentions for them to give up their nuclear program.


North Korea is neither a signatory party of the NPT, nor a member nation of the U.N. Thus it is not bound by any of the rulings passed by either.


But still Technically at War Following the invasion of South Korea by North Korea, twenty-one member nations of the United Nations (UN) committed themselves to support South Korea which was not yet a member nation in 1950...Presently we are at an armistice,

The United Nations Security Council often imposes, or tries to impose, cease-fire resolutions on parties in modern conflicts. Armistices are always negotiated between the parties themselves and are thus generally seen as more binding than non-mandatory UN cease-fire resolutions in modern international law.

An armistice is a modus vivendi and is not the same as a peace treaty, which may take months or even years to agree on. The 1953 Korean War Armistice Agreement is a major example of an armistice which has not been followed by a peace treaty. Armistice is also different from a truce or ceasefire, which refer to a temporary cessation of hostilities for an agreed limited time or within a limited area. A truce may be needed in order to negotiate an armistice.

The sanctions are just part of getting a firm Peace Treaty with the belligerent NK.
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But still Technically at War Following the invasion of South Korea by North Korea, twenty-one member nations of the United Nations (UN) committed themselves to support South Korea which was not yet a member nation in 1950...Presently we are at an armistice,

The United Nations Security Council often imposes, or tries to impose, cease-fire resolutions on parties in modern conflicts. Armistices are always negotiated between the parties themselves and are thus generally seen as more binding than non-mandatory UN cease-fire resolutions in modern international law.

An armistice is a modus vivendi and is not the same as a peace treaty, which may take months or even years to agree on. The 1953 Korean War Armistice Agreement is a major example of an armistice which has not been followed by a peace treaty. Armistice is also different from a truce or ceasefire, which refer to a temporary cessation of hostilities for an agreed limited time or within a limited area. A truce may be needed in order to negotiate an armistice.

The sanctions are just part of getting a firm Peace Treaty with the belligerent NK.


Yeah, that's the problem with anyone who thinks North Korea is doing anything illegal in ramping up it's nuclear armament programs. The armistice does not compel North Korea to reduce the capacity of it's armed forces to wage war. And a simple deceleration of war would relieve North Korea of even the things it agreed to do in said armistice.

As for the sanctions their teeth don't technically apply to North Korea at all but rather to the member nations of the U.N. Essentially the U.N is legalising bullying. We are trying to force North Korea to see and do things our way. Is it right? Debatable but it is what it is. Is there plenty of moral and logical grounds to force North Korea to see things our way? Sure but legal grounds there is not.

International law can not be imposed upon a sovereign nation that has not agreed to it. Sure sometimes we have to get our hands dirty and force it upon them anyway but that hardly gives us the legal ground to do so.
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