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BUT they drove in Tanks, marched in infantry, and bombed with planes and artillery.

The conflict escalated into open warfare when North Korean forces—supported by the Soviet Union and China—moved into the south on 25 June 1950. On that day, the United Nations Security Council recognized this North Korean act as invasion and called for an immediate ceasefire. On 27 June, the Security Council adopted S/RES/83: Complaint of aggression upon the Republic of Korea and decided the formation and dispatch of the UN Forces in Korea. Twenty-one countries of the United Nations eventually contributed to the UN force, with the United States providing 88% of the UN's military personnel.
S/RES/83: That why we can legally.
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Posted 5/29/17 , edited 5/29/17

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BUT they drove in Tanks, marched in infantry, and bombed with planes and artillery.

The conflict escalated into open warfare when North Korean forces—supported by the Soviet Union and China—moved into the south on 25 June 1950. On that day, the United Nations Security Council recognized this North Korean act as invasion and called for an immediate ceasefire. On 27 June, the Security Council adopted S/RES/83: Complaint of aggression upon the Republic of Korea and decided the formation and dispatch of the UN Forces in Korea. Twenty-one countries of the United Nations eventually contributed to the UN force, with the United States providing 88% of the UN's military personnel.
S/RES/83: That why we can legally.


Of course they did, it's what you do when you go to war with someone. The U.N and ISAF did the same thing in Afghanistan. We went in guns blazing and didn't stop till 2014.

And all S/RES/83: proves is that the U.N agreed to help South Korea out. It is no basis for the legality of anything let alone whatever we did and will do to North Korea. And really we could argue S/RES/83: is really nothing more than proof that Capitalism and Socialism like to use smaller nations as puppets in their war against each other.

Look mate I am not saying we shouldn't stop North Korea and it's nuclear program. I am just saying we need to stop pretending we have the legal right to do so. We are using strong arm tactics that hurt North Korean citizens far more than they wound the leadership of the DPRK. We may have the moral and logical obligation to do so but the concept of applying international law to a situation like North Korea is a joke. They have no legal obligation to listen to the U.N or any ruling it passes.

And honestly even the United States of America has flouted U.N rulings from time to time and they actually have a legal obligation to listen to the U.N.
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Posted 5/29/17

HopexLight wrote:

This is all that needs to be said really.



And beautifully put.
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Posted 5/29/17 , edited 5/29/17

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Au contraire United Nations Security Council sharpens sanctions on DPR Korea in wake of ballistic missile launch makes it a violation of international law and intentions for them to give up their nuclear program.


North Korea is neither a signatory party of the NPT, nor a member nation of the U.N. Thus it is not bound by any of the rulings passed by either.


Everything I read about this in the past says you are wrong on it. DPR Korea IS a member of the U.N, and the legality of their leaving the NPT has not be weighed yet, though you may be right.

BTW: being a signatory to a treaty or not doesn't always result in a country not having to follow international law. The Geneva Conventions for example made that clear; a person can be prosecuted for war crimes regardless if their country is a signatory or not. Even if one has not ratified it.
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Posted 5/29/17
I wish they'd get the nuclear war over and done with already, tired of hearing about it.
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Posted 5/29/17 , edited 5/29/17

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runec wrote:

They're not going to stop now. They've been unzipping their pants and slapping it up on the table for years and now they finally have someone paying attention to it.


Asian Male are known for their small...size, so 99.99% of us may miss that part! :p Now we're seeing it with glasses and amaze how small it is! :p j/k


I think his main target would be South Korea and US Military Base over there, I don't think he really intending on releasing missles at US.. I think its all talk (scared tactic?)... -shrugs-

I heard that North Korea are even falling apart over there, The Government, The People are starving over there, and Kim are getting paraoid on his own people.


My ex Asian boyfriend said that was a myth and to be fair his dick was large.
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Jamming777 wrote:


BUT they drove in Tanks, marched in infantry, and bombed with planes and artillery.

The conflict escalated into open warfare when North Korean forces—supported by the Soviet Union and China—moved into the south on 25 June 1950. On that day, the United Nations Security Council recognized this North Korean act as invasion and called for an immediate ceasefire. On 27 June, the Security Council adopted S/RES/83: Complaint of aggression upon the Republic of Korea and decided the formation and dispatch of the UN Forces in Korea. Twenty-one countries of the United Nations eventually contributed to the UN force, with the United States providing 88% of the UN's military personnel.
S/RES/83: That why we can legally.


Of course they did, it's what you do when you go to war with someone. The U.N and ISAF did the same thing in Afghanistan. We went in guns blazing and didn't stop till 2014.

And all S/RES/83: proves is that the U.N agreed to help South Korea out. It is no basis for the legality of anything let alone whatever we did and will do to North Korea. And really we could argue S/RES/83: is really nothing more than proof that Capitalism and Socialism like to use smaller nations as puppets in their war against each other.

Look mate I am not saying we shouldn't stop North Korea and it's nuclear program. I am just saying we need to stop pretending we have the legal right to do so. We are using strong arm tactics that hurt North Korean citizens far more than they wound the leadership of the DPRK. We may have the moral and logical obligation to do so but the concept of applying international law to a situation like North Korea is a joke. They have no legal obligation to listen to the U.N or any ruling it passes.

And honestly even the United States of America has flouted U.N rulings from time to time and they actually have a legal obligation to listen to the U.N.


War is legal and all nations listen to their neighbors(then ignore them), even the Canuks partying on America's Roof. Keep spilling the beer though, its the only decent beer we get.
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North Korea; can we just take care of them already?
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North Korea; can we just take care of them already?


How do we take care of them? We can't just walk into North Korea to remove their nuclear weapons,and leader.
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JanusCascade wrote:


runec wrote:

They're not going to stop now. They've been unzipping their pants and slapping it up on the table for years and now they finally have someone paying attention to it.


Asian Male are known for their small...size, so 99.99% of us may miss that part! :p Now we're seeing it with glasses and amaze how small it is! :p j/k


I think his main target would be South Korea and US Military Base over there, I don't think he really intending on releasing missles at US.. I think its all talk (scared tactic?)... -shrugs-

I heard that North Korea are even falling apart over there, The Government, The People are starving over there, and Kim are getting paraoid on his own people.


My ex Asian boyfriend said that was a myth and to be fair his dick was large.



Was gonna say there a device that make his thing bigger, but I'm afraid that'll get me ban! XD

What I mean is, saying the name of that device, but.. I'm pretty sure Mods would be upset with me!
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War is legal and all nations listen to their neighbors(then ignore them), even the Canuks partying on America's Roof. Keep spilling the beer though, its the only decent beer we get.


Mate tell me what is the difference in me killing a person on the street and me marching a army into another nation? Nothing, nothing at all. Yet they would call me a murderer for killing a person on the street, and throw me into prison. Yet when I want to march an army into another nation all I need is the blessing of the U.N and some flimsy justification under the dubious concept of international law.

Stop pretending the concept of wide scale murder is legal. Sometimes it's the thing that must be done, it can even be the moral thing to do under the right circumstances. But morality and law do not always keep the same company.
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none of their missiles are nuclear capable yet (their nukes are just too big to fit on a missile), but thats not the point

The reason no one is bothering North Korea is because all they want is to survive as a nation. their missile tests are completely propaganda only. they wont attack anyone because they know it will be the end of them, and to crush any throught of rebellion, they need to keep the propaganda machine running, which means more missile tests

people always think NK is ran by idiots but they know what they're doing. how to run a dystopian society 101

(of course it goes much deeper than just firing missiles. i could be here all day explaining it)
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Jamming777 wrote:


War is legal and all nations listen to their neighbors(then ignore them), even the Canuks partying on America's Roof. Keep spilling the beer though, its the only decent beer we get.


Mate tell me what is the difference in me killing a person on the street and me marching a army into another nation? Nothing, nothing at all. Yet they would call me a murderer for killing a person on the street, and throw me into prison. Yet when I want to march an army into another nation all I need is the blessing of the U.N and some flimsy justification under the dubious concept of international law.

Stop pretending the concept of wide scale murder is legal. Sometimes it's the thing that must be done, it can even be the moral thing to do under the right circumstances. But morality and law do not always keep the same company.


You started off by saying there was no difference between killing someone on the street and killing someone while in an army (assuming battle), then proceeded to state what some differences are.

The result for the dead person is definitely the same, but there are large differences between killing an armed force member while you are in part of an opposing armed force and killing some random guy on the street. Society determines when it is understandable or acceptable to kill a person and they do that via laws. Society. government, and laws are conceptual, but it is what we follow.

You are right though that morality and law are not always similar. Clear cases of actual immoral laws exist in the world. To claim there is no difference between those things because the end result is the same (a dead man) is wrong.
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JanusCascade wrote:


Ashliet wrote:


JanusCascade wrote:


runec wrote:

They're not going to stop now. They've been unzipping their pants and slapping it up on the table for years and now they finally have someone paying attention to it.


Asian Male are known for their small...size, so 99.99% of us may miss that part! :p Now we're seeing it with glasses and amaze how small it is! :p j/k


I think his main target would be South Korea and US Military Base over there, I don't think he really intending on releasing missles at US.. I think its all talk (scared tactic?)... -shrugs-

I heard that North Korea are even falling apart over there, The Government, The People are starving over there, and Kim are getting paraoid on his own people.


My ex Asian boyfriend said that was a myth and to be fair his dick was large.



Was gonna say there a device that make his thing bigger, but I'm afraid that'll get me ban! XD

What I mean is, saying the name of that device, but.. I'm pretty sure Mods would be upset with me! :(



No the only way is surgery. What your thinking of is to force blood into the area to cause a erection it's a myth that it does anything more.
Plus he was 16 at the time with no job (don't worry I was 15) he didn't have the money to buy anything.
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Posted 5/29/17 , edited 5/29/17

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You started off by saying there was no difference between killing someone on the street and killing someone while in an army (assuming battle), then proceeded to state what some differences are.

The result for the dead person is definitely the same, but there are large differences between killing an armed force member while you are in part of an opposing armed force and killing some random guy on the street. Society determines when it is understandable or acceptable to kill a person and they do that via laws. Society. government, and laws are conceptual, but it is what we follow.

You are right though that morality and law are not always similar. Clear cases of actual immoral laws exist in the world. To claim there is no difference between those things because the end result is the same (a dead man) is wrong.


Whose society though? Each nation is a sovereign power unto itself with it's own culture, viewpoints, laws, language, history , and morals. The concept of international law was false the second it was coined. No other nation has the right to infringe upon the actions of another. And to do so is nothing less then bullying . Who are we to say what North Korea can and can't do? No one that's who. We have no right to do so.

Sometimes we may feel the obligation to play world police. And indeed we may have to play the world police but that does not give the U.N the high ground. When we resort to sanctions and armed conflict we are lowering ourselves to the level of North Korea. Now don't get me wrong I have no problem with getting my hands dirty . But I am not going to pretend I am anymore right then anyone else with blood and dirt on my hands. The popular side of the war is not automatically the legal and right side ya know.
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